KRL Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Milliner needs to "get off the pot" also, he's been out with a wrist injury. Therefore he should be full go in terms of his knowledge of the defense, speed and coverage ability. Unlike last year with his ankle injury when Ryan threw him out there against GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Milliner needs to "get off the pot" also, he's been out with a wrist injury. Therefore he should be full go in terms of his knowledge of the defense, speed and coverage ability. Unlike last year with his ankle injury when Ryan threw him out there against GB Agree. It's almost as if they wanted to RedShirt #27 and let him LEARN the position and (I guess) its other aspects. a Wrist injury for a CB doesn't SEEM as if it would be material, but he has NO excuse to "mentally" blow an assignment at this stage of his career. He's had THE MOST time compared to other players to sit & learn . . . year (benched in '13) after year (injured IR in '14), after year (injured 1st 1/2 of '15) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Milliner has the best chance to be a shut down corner on our team. If he's healthy, give him a shot. People thought calvin pryor was a bust and wanted all sorts of jags to take his job, now he looks like an essential part of this defense. Millner may just be a bust but I'm willing to give him a shot. It's not like cro has been great, and our secondary gave up a ton of yards after cro went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Agree. It's almost as if they wanted to RedShirt #27 and let him LEARN the position and (I guess) its other aspects. a Wrist injury for a CB doesn't SEEM as if it would be material, but he has NO excuse to "mentally" blow an assignment at this stage of his career. He's had THE MOST time compared to other players to sit & learn . . . year (benched in '13) after year (injured IR in '14), after year (injured 1st 1/2 of '15) Agree. As early as he was picked, he has to produce this year. The team really needs him to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Sheesh... the injuries this year... what'd Namath do, bang Satan's daughter? Nah, that was simply a favor he did for Satan in order to get a Super Bowl. Namath just didn't call her back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Nah, that was simply a favor he did for Satan in order to get a Super Bowl. Namath just didn't call her back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 On the glass half full side of the ledger, Fitz does get rid of the ball quickly so Winters shouldn't been too much of a deficit in the passing game. On the glass half empty side, even with Colon in there I didn't have much confidence in our running game v.s the Bill because their run D is pretty darn good. Winters is a definite downgrade here but overall the game plan probably doesn't change much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Sheesh... the injuries this year... what'd Namath do, bang Satan's daughter? Well somebody did?? Maybe JIF?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 the only way to save the season is to trade for Larry Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Time to scour a practice squad for a decent OL or any free agents on the street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Time to scour a practice squad for a decent OL or any free agents on the street are you just going to leave it to maccagnan ? cmon willie crank up the google !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 Milliner has the best chance to be a shut down corner on our team. If he's healthy, give him a shot. People thought calvin pryor was a bust and wanted all sorts of jags to take his job, now he looks like an essential part of this defense. Millner may just be a bust but I'm willing to give him a shot. It's not like cro has been great, and our secondary gave up a ton of yards after cro went down. Milliner has a chance to be a shut down corner based on what? Certainly not his NFL body of work. He has shown brief glimspes of being a solid player between season ending injuries. I hold out a glimmer of hope he could be useful, but shut down or #2 corner? I don't see it. Jacksonville had 3 or 4 drives after Cro went down. They went FG, Fumble, TD, INT. And the TD drive was three plays where Buster Skrine was abused. His injuries are impacting his play, that much is obvious. The Jets will be fine without Cro. Skrine probably won't be fully healthy until the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 Time to scour a practice squad for a decent OL or any free agents on the street You always say this no matter the position. Let's check out the free agents or the practice squads for players to step in right away and help the Jets. If those players existed they wouldn't be on practice squads or on the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 the only way to save the season is to trade for Larry Allen I'm sure since Winters was drafted while Rex was here he saw "a little Larry Allen in him." Too bad I haven't seen much Ditka in Amaro yet, even if Amaro still doesn't know who Ditka is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 are you just going to leave it to maccagnan ? cmon willie crank up the google !!!! Out of my league In Maccagnan i trust I can only offer my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Milliner has a chance to be a shut down corner based on what? Certainly not his NFL body of work. He has shown brief glimspes of being a solid player between season ending injuries. I hold out a glimmer of hope he could be useful, but shut down or #2 corner? I don't see it. Jacksonville had 3 or 4 drives after Cro went down. They went FG, Fumble, TD, INT. And the TD drive was three plays where Buster Skrine was abused. His injuries are impacting his play, that much is obvious. The Jets will be fine without Cro. Skrine probably won't be fully healthy until the offseason. I will take Overrated Lady Dame teams for $500 Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Out of my league In Maccagnan i trust I can only offer my opinion you can't think of one washed up criminal who played guard that you remember was good 5 years ago ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Milliner has a chance to be a shut down corner based on what? Certainly not his NFL body of work. He has shown brief glimspes of being a solid player between season ending injuries. I hold out a glimmer of hope he could be useful, but shut down or #2 corner? I don't see it. Jacksonville had 3 or 4 drives after Cro went down. They went FG, Fumble, TD, INT. And the TD drive was three plays where Buster Skrine was abused. His injuries are impacting his play, that much is obvious. The Jets will be fine without Cro. Skrine probably won't be fully healthy until the offseason. Based on how he played at the end of his rookie year and his play in college and how most scouts viewed him. Like I said, he has a CHANCE to be a shutdown corner, he can also be average or a complete bust. Not sure why a true Jets fan would just assume he can't be a shutdown corner after his rookie year? Last year we had ZERO secondary and he was knocked out very early in the season. I had these same arguments with many posters about Pryor. Everyone wanted Pryor to be Ronnie Lott in year 1 so they all screamed BUST, now 99pct of Jets fans would love to have him available this week. Milliner could develop on a similar path. If he is forced into action this week and doesn't play great, many of you guys will say "see he sucks" despite this being his first game action since October of last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be_a_Jet Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 shocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I'd go to Hell in a minute for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 I will take Overrated Lady Dame teams for $500 Alex Unless you have something productive to bring to the conversation, why don't you have a seat on the pine. Take a few plays off and contemplate what it is you bring to this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 Based on how he played at the end of his rookie year and his play in college and how most scouts viewed him. Like I said, he has a CHANCE to be a shutdown corner, he can also be average or a complete bust. Not sure why a true Jets fan would just assume he can't be a shutdown corner after his rookie year? Last year we had ZERO secondary and he was knocked out very early in the season. I had these same arguments with many posters about Pryor. Everyone wanted Pryor to be Ronnie Lott in year 1 so they all screamed BUST, now 99pct of Jets fans would love to have him available this week. Milliner could develop on a similar path. If he is forced into action this week and doesn't play great, many of you guys will say "see he sucks" despite this being his first game action since October of last year. His rookie year was two years and two major injuries ago. I saw nothing in any game he played that says shut down corner. Could he take the path of Calvin Pryor and be better under Bowles than he was under Rex? Sure, but if the coaching staff had an inkling that he'd take that route, he would have been active a lot sooner and they would have talked him up as so. Most it was "We'll see if we can find room." That doesn't exactly exude confidence from the coaches. And if Dee Milliner is pressed into service this weekend aside from special teams, they're in a lot more trouble than heading into the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 His rookie year was two years and two major injuries ago. I saw nothing in any game he played that says shut down corner. Could he take the path of Calvin Pryor and be better under Bowles than he was under Rex? Sure, but if the coaching staff had an inkling that he'd take that route, he would have been active a lot sooner and they would have talked him up as so. Most it was "We'll see if we can find room." That doesn't exactly exude confidence from the coaches. And if Dee Milliner is pressed into service this weekend aside from special teams, they're in a lot more trouble than heading into the game. why the hate ? your boy was either not getting in the game or getting 10 reps. milliner isn't taking anything away from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 why the hate ? your boy was either not getting in the game or getting 10 reps. milliner isn't taking anything away from him I'm not sure what one has to do with the other. I just want the Jets to play the best players to win games. I don't think that's Milliner, no matter where he was drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Milliner has a chance to be a shut down corner based on what? Certainly not his NFL body of work. He has shown brief glimspes of being a solid player between season ending injuries. I hold out a glimmer of hope he could be useful, but shut down or #2 corner? I don't see it. Jacksonville had 3 or 4 drives after Cro went down. They went FG, Fumble, TD, INT. And the TD drive was three plays where Buster Skrine was abused. His injuries are impacting his play, that much is obvious. The Jets will be fine without Cro. Skrine probably won't be fully healthy until the offseason. You have major agendas mon RTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 you can't think of one washed up criminal who played guard that you remember was good 5 years ago ? No help me out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 His rookie year was two years and two major injuries ago. I saw nothing in any game he played that says shut down corner. Could he take the path of Calvin Pryor and be better under Bowles than he was under Rex? Sure, but if the coaching staff had an inkling that he'd take that route, he would have been active a lot sooner and they would have talked him up as so. Most it was "We'll see if we can find room." That doesn't exactly exude confidence from the coaches. And if Dee Milliner is pressed into service this weekend aside from special teams, they're in a lot more trouble than heading into the game. Much sooner? What the **** is much sooner? He was not eligible for the first 8 weeks. Supposedly they could have activated him last week. I'm not even sure that I believe that since when the designated him they said he had to miss the first 8 games. It's not like he has been sitting for ages waiting to come back. Tell me exactly who Bowles has talked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 Much sooner? What the **** is much sooner? He was not eligible for the first 8 weeks. Supposedly they could have activated him last week. I'm not even sure that I believe that since when the designated him they said he had to miss the first 8 games. It's not like he has been sitting for ages waiting to come back. Tell me exactly who Bowles has talked up. He was eligible last week. They waited until the last literal day they could before activating him. Bowles has talked up at various times a lot of people like Marcus Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 This sucks. Winters is a huge downgrade from Colon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I'm not sure what one has to do with the other. I just want the Jets to play the best players to win games. I don't think that's Milliner, no matter where he was drafted. there are other positions that don't always play the best player, why don't you rant about those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 there are other positions that don't always play the best player, why don't you rant about those? Tell me what those are and I'd be glad to discuss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 He was eligible last week. They waited until the last literal day they could before activating him. Bowles has talked up at various times a lot of people like Marcus Williams. That means they left him on for one extra week. There is/was no value added by activating him before the last day (unless they wanted him to play last week). He was already practicing with the team, so waiting is just par for the course. I have not heard Bowles gushing about anybody including Marcus Williams, but maybe I missed that article. The most I have heard is that people "did a nice job" or "made some nice plays." . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 That means they left him on for one extra week. There is/was no value added by activating him before the last day (unless they wanted him to play last week). He was already practicing with the team, so waiting is just par for the course. I have not heard Bowles gushing about anybody including Marcus Williams, but maybe I missed that article. The most I have heard is that people "did a nice job" or "made some nice plays." . http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/jets-second-year-cornerback-marcus-williams-making-positive-impression-on-todd-bowles-1.10757490 "Marcus is very intelligent. He does some great things. He plays zone as well as man. He's an inside and an outside guy. Very heady for a second-year guy. So he's done some good things. I like everything Marcus is doing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 the only way to save the season is to trade for Larry Allen a 53 yr old Larry Allen > Winters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I'm not a big Aboushi guy but why did we cut him? Was he really that bad in TC? He is not worse than Brian Winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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