Spoot-Face Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Someone can check the math, but it appears as though the Jets have out scored their opponents 116-63 in the second half. As ever, Westhoff is a doddering old fool who will be forever embittered by never getting a sniff of anything beyond ST coach, which is a trainee job populated by 36 year-olds. By my tally it's 109-64. Broken down by game, 2nd half scoring looks like this: Jets OpponentsWk1 17 0 (Browns)Wk2 10 7 (Colts)Wk3 10 0 (Eagles)Wk4 7 7 (Dolphins)Wk6 24 7 (Redskins)Wk7 13 17 (Patriots)Wk8 14 13 (Raiders)Wk9 14 13 (Jaguars) As you can see, there's a sharp contrast between the first 5 weeks and the last 3, but even then, only the Patriots have managed to outscore us in the 2nd half, and only by a small margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 By my tally it's 109-64. Broken down by game, 2nd half scoring looks like this: Jets OpponentsWk1 17 0 (Browns)Wk2 10 7 (Colts)Wk3 10 0 (Eagles)Wk4 7 7 (Dolphins)Wk6 24 7 (Redskins)Wk7 13 17 (Patriots)Wk8 14 13 (Raiders)Wk9 14 13 (Jaguars) As you can see, there's a sharp contrast between the first 5 weeks and the last 3, but even then, only the Patriots have managed to outscore us in the 2nd half, and only by a small margin. True, but all of those first 5 opponents sucked balls. And if you have the temperament to get through even 10 words of my post above, I go into some detail. Excruciatingly boring detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 The thing about adjusting is that both teams can do it. Jeez, I never thought of that. You mean its like the players on the other side get paid too? Some guys want perfection. He's been coaching a total of 8 games so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 True, but all of those first 5 opponents sucked balls. And if you have the temperament to get through even 10 words of my post above, I go into some detail. Excruciatingly boring detail. I did. And I immediately felt post envy. Me: "Ah, I did a nice little break down of 2nd half scoring with a little chart and all! I feel good! I contributed! I'm important!" *Sperm posts novel* Me: "Goddammit." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 One serious concern-in the 3 losses the Jets fell behind 2 scores. And then kept huddling,took their time getting the play in ran running plays, didn't call 2 plays on clock stoppages. That is total crap. And for 2 weeks Ivory is clearly hurt, and still they ran him as if it worked and it did not. I HATE plays that get called to "establish the run" or simply to un a play. That night have worked 2 decades ago, now it's really dumb. You have to score points, and I'm really at a loss hit they were thinking in each of these cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I think gailey is part of the problem, last week he was running right into run blitzes even with a gimpy RB and a back up guard in the game **** it, it worked a month ago...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 By my tally it's 109-64. Broken down by game, 2nd half scoring looks like this: Jets OpponentsWk1 17 0 (Browns)Wk2 10 7 (Colts)Wk3 10 0 (Eagles)Wk4 7 7 (Dolphins)Wk6 24 7 (Redskins)Wk7 13 17 (Patriots)Wk8 14 13 (Raiders)Wk9 14 13 (Jaguars) As you can see, there's a sharp contrast between the first 5 weeks and the last 3, but even then, only the Patriots have managed to outscore us in the 2nd half, and only by a small margin. Well damn, so his normally weekly gameplanning may be the issue. Cause based off those numbers, we're fine in 2nd halves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I think gailey is part of the problem, last week he was running right into run blitzes even with a gimpy RB and a back up guard in the game **** it, it worked a month ago...... They did throw a few dump offs to Ivory later in the game. But at a loss how if Ridley was active he didn't get some carrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 They did throw a few dump offs to Ivory later in the game. But at a loss how if Ridley was active he didn't get some carrees. I liked that a lot and hope to see more tonight. I think this bills team is going to be flying around and very vulnerable to mis-direction and chicanery. I just want to see gailey start the game better, especially the first drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Well damn, so his normally weekly gameplanning may be the issue. Cause based off those numbers, we're fine in 2nd halves. Yeah, I don't know whether it's his initial gameplan, or the player execution, or what, but something seems to be different in the 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 One serious concern-in the 3 losses the Jets fell behind 2 scores. And then kept huddling,took their time getting the play in ran running plays, didn't call 2 plays on clock stoppages. That is total crap. And for 2 weeks Ivory is clearly hurt, and still they ran him as if it worked and it did not. I HATE plays that get called to "establish the run" or simply to un a play. That night have worked 2 decades ago, now it's really dumb. You have to score points, and I'm really at a loss hit they were thinking in each of these cases. Yeah, the nonchalant clock management and lack of urgency has really pissed me off. Was not expecting to see any of that this season. Not happy with the stubborn force-feedings to Ivory when the run game isn't working. Look at New England. They couldn't run on us so they pretty much completely gave up on it and simply beat us with the pass. I don't know, maybe Bowles and/or Gailey don't trust Fitz to be able to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I think gailey is part of the problem, last week he was running right into run blitzes even with a gimpy RB and a back up guard in the game **** it, it worked a month ago...... It's like Schotty all over again. "Up the middle, they'll never see it coming!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 They did throw a few dump offs to Ivory later in the game. But at a loss how if Ridley was active he didn't get some carrees. Yeah, I thought that we'd have seen Ridley by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Evidence of this? Never heard about the league office being involved with hiring of the coach Because they WEREN'T involved!! Folks make up anything!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Well damn, so his normally weekly gameplanning may be the issue. Cause based off those numbers, we're fine in 2nd halves. It's called we are the ones making the SUPERIOR ADJUSTMENTS!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Yeah, the nonchalant clock management and lack of urgency has really pissed me off. Was not expecting to see any of that this season. Not happy with the stubborn force-feedings to Ivory when the run game isn't working. Look at New England. They couldn't run on us so they pretty much completely gave up on it and simply beat us with the pass. I don't know, maybe Bowles and/or Gailey don't trust Fitz to be able to do that. imo, the entire offensive philosophy is to work around the gimp arm of Fitzpatrick. I don't think they (Bowles or Gailey) have a great deal of confidence in the offense's ability to get down the field in anything less than 8-10 plays, so there really is no way to open things up, per se. If they get down two scores, they still run the same plays as when they're up one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 He wins, he's good at adjusting, he loses, he's poor at them. The other team gets paid to play as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 He wins, he's good at adjusting, he loses, he's poor at them. The other team gets paid to play as well. Yep. /endthread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 imo, the entire offensive philosophy is to work around the gimp arm of Fitzpatrick. I don't think they (Bowles or Gailey) have a great deal of confidence in the offense's ability to get down the field in anything less than 8-10 plays, so there really is no way to open things up, per se. If they get down two scores, they still run the same plays as when they're up one. That's probably true. The big equalizer for us has been Ivory and the run game. When that was going well for us, we were pretty dominant (as much as a Jets team has been dominant in recent years). They probably feel like that's our path to success this season, and even when it starts to fail, they don't think they have a viable back-up plan. If Fitz is forced to sling it, then he'll inevitably begin hemorrhaging turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I thought he has been hit or miss with adjustments. Did well adjusting to CLE,IND and JAG. didn't do well with the games we lost obviously enough. I was at the skins game. His half time adjustments were monster. We went from down 13-10 at half to up 34-13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Many of you guys out here are nothing more than self-hating Jets Fans and it is sadl!!! Here is what Westy said right after the Jets last game concerning the Jets and the coaching staff adjustments!! Westy speaks at 150 of the tape and he specifically states the opposite from the quote in question which was made early in the season.... http://web.sny.tv/media/video.jsp?content_id=528685683&topic_id=21533122&c_id=sny Good Grief!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I think he lacks a basic understanding of how the game is played in the AFC East with the never say die or never say we scored enough because the Patriots will try to score TD's up by 35 points with :41 seconds left and the ball on their own 22 yard line. Todd Bowles seems to think that there is some gentleman's game being played out on the turnpikes and it's going to cost this team games if he doesn't wise up. You can NOT sit on a lead just like Herman Edwards had to learn the hard way that playing not to lose is only good for 1 thing: losing. The league office had nothing to do with this hire. Or the last hire or the one before. Woody hired two highly regard GMs to help hire this GM and HC. You do sit on leads when you have as many injuries as he had a week ago. That was it. Lets not make it a philosophy at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I was at the skins game. His half time adjustments were monster. We went from down 13-10 at half to up 34-13. Eagels were shut out in the 2nd half, the new fangled, state of the art 22nd century Eagle offense. If he could have adjusted Fitz aim we would have won that game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Many of you guys out here are nothing more than self-hating Jets Fans and it is sadl!!! Good Grief!!! Your handle is one of the most depressing cartoon characters in cartoon history. Second maybe to Eeyore. So I'm not going to listen to the outdated 2-dimensional drawing version of a sad loser. You blockhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Evidence of this? Never heard about the league office being involved with hiring of the coach It was with Herman Edwards but not Bowles.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 It was with Herman Edwards but not Bowles.. +1 He's too young to remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Whose, Westhoff's candidate? It wasn't his job to choose a head coach for the Jets. in fact he may have even been considered at on point. I would have liked to know who was Woody Johnson's first choice. The guy he hired and pays? He got the info from consultants and Macc but makes the ultimate decision. I know that kills fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 He is a first year head coach. What do some of u expect, we are 5-3 with Ryan Fitzpatrick. If anybody knew at the beginning of the season we would be 5-3 with Fitz u would be singing Bowles praises. Give the guy some time. Let him and Mac get through a couple of drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Evidence of this? Never heard about the league office being involved with hiring of the coach Oh, well if YOU'VE never heard of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 He wins, he's good at adjusting, he loses, he's poor at them. The other team gets paid to play as well. It's like people who walk up escalators. If I'm in a hurry, thank god I have someone to pave the way for me, but if I don't feel like moving, go **** yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Your handle is one of the most depressing cartoon characters in cartoon history. Second maybe to Eeyore. So I'm not going to listen to the outdated 2-dimensional drawing version of a sad loser. You blockhead. You see my friend I know defeatism...... And his name is Charlie Brown!!! And by the way, come out with the family and enjoy the NEW MOVIE... I might add!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 westy aint wrong, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Can we bring Westy back to get our ST's on track? Devin Smith's fumble was obviously a killer and ST's have been bad all year. Even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 westy aint wrong, lol I'd say they adjusted pretty well in the second half. Players didn't execute though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I'd say they adjusted pretty well in the second half. Players didn't execute though. No kidding. The second half wasn't perfect but if we had played the first half even close to the same as the second it would have been 17-6 Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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