pointman Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Revis got toasted by Hopkins. Revis also got toasted by Stevie Johnson and Randy Moss, when Revis was in his prime prime. It happens. He is still the best corner in the league. He is still our drafted elite player. No corner in the league I want over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 waithe isn't 2009 revis ? I'm, shocked All you need is a good set of eyes to come to that conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 All you need is a good set of eyes to come to that conclusion. or a sarcasm detector or a brain. you ok grandpa ? tell us about how belicheat and shady brady make you sad again, I love that story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 The 2 TD's Revis gave up in Houston, Hopkins got away with obvious pushoffs....If the refs are going to allow that it doesn't matter how good you are Jus Sayin' I think he is still a top corner If not the best in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Revis has always sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 HELL NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Revis has not been the same since the knee injury. He is still pretty damn good though even if a little expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Can't wait until Hopkins gets a little older. Immature jerkoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Revis has not been the same since the knee injury. He is still pretty damn good though even if a little expensive. He was the best CB in the league in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Not arguing that point at all, he is still a very good CB. But Revis is no longer the elite, lockdown CB that he was 5 years ago. If you watched his performance in the playoffs last year, you could clearly see that. My point is, the Jets are paying him $16MM per year (with a lot of guaranteed money still left) and that is top dollar in the NFL for CB's. The Jets beat the Dolphins and Giants the last 2 weeks without Revis. Think they would have won those games without Brandon Marshall? And we also won those 2 games without your comments. Oh and didn't Tommy Boy throw like 10 INT's last week? Totally overpaid for that bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 or a sarcasm detector or a brain. you ok grandpa ? tell us about how belicheat and shady brady make you sad again, I love that story LOL Too funny..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better2bgreenthanblue Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 How is what I posted considered trolling? My post was about the thread topic and I stated my opinion. Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it trolling. And BTW, I am 100% correct. I thought all Pats fans were required to put an asterisk on any claims or comments they make! Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Revis is still great and the contract includes his HOF entry in a Jets uniform, money well spent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Problem when discussing Revis is that everyone is comparing today's Revis, who's still one of the best in the game to the pre knee injury Revis, who was an all time great coming off one of, if not the best season ever for a corner. He was criticized for giving up a quick hitter from the two and the same for a 1st down to the Bills. As if anyone else would have stopped those plays They're also forgetting he's had a leg injury earlier to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Elite CBs don't get beat the way Revis has this season. Hopkins completely owned him. Cooper owned him as well, but Cro was worse so the stats don't look too bad. Watkins beat him to win the game for Buffalo. Revis is a good corner, and the best on our team. But he no longer can be relied on man-to-man, despite what "defender of the week" awards, or leads he's had in small sample sizes. Put Revis against Hopkins again, and Revis is toast. He physically cannot lock down a bunch of these guys anymore. I can halfway agree with this. Hopkins owned him but Cooper didnt own Revis at all. Watkins has a great 3 yard play for a 1st down. If Revis was playing Hopkins every week then you may have a valid point, but thats not the case. More often than not the match-up that Revis will enter he will more likely win it. If the Jets play the Texans 16 times in a season then I have to give you the advantage here. Thats just not the case though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 The Jets 2014 pass defense was ranked 24th. Today it is ranked 8th. When the Pats got Revis everybody predicted Super Bowl. Revis was definitely top 5 last year. He entered the NFL in 2007. Could he be washed up already? Maybe, but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetup Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I would of thought Norman would have been on this list or Talib. So as much as everyone talks about his decline, he is still elite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 It would be great to see # of targets to get a better sense of it plus who the QB is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jgb Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 #2???? He sucks! Overpaid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 If he can play elite CB over the next 4 weeks and shut down every #1 WR we face(starting with Watkins) we stand a very good chance of winning the AFC crown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 If he can play elite CB over the next 4 weeks and shut down every #1 WR we face(starting with Watkins) we stand a very good chance of winning the AFC crown. Good call stopping at "AFC crown". If Arizona makes it to the SB, and we go on a hell of run to get there too, stopping Zona's WRs will take much more that just elite play from 24. In AFC, if healthy with Edelman and Amendola back, Pats too. Denver a bit as well. But neither are on Arizona's level with regards to QB/WR threats. Cin, KC, Houston and Buff... yeah if Revis comes out on fire, he could single-handily remove a huge part of their offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Good call stopping at "AFC crown". If Arizona makes it to the SB, and we go on a hell of run to get there too, stopping Zona's WRs will take much more that just elite play from 24. In AFC, if healthy with Edelman and Amendola back, Pats too. Denver a bit as well. But neither are on Arizona's level with regards to QB/WR threats. Cin, KC, Houston and Buff... yeah if Revis comes out on fire, he could single-handily remove a huge part of their offense. Amendola doesn't scare me. Edelman, Gronk and White out of the backfield do. Of course the minute Brady gets flustered he gets off his game. If Bowles/Rodgers can get the pass rush up a level or two.....that would help out the back end of the "D" Hopefully, Mauldin can get a step quicker as he gets more playing time and the game slows down for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Marshall has been a beast this year, but who would have guessed that. Revis coming back has meant a lot to this team. He may be declining and more often getting targeted than before, but that also increases his impact when he plays great. Also, his work habits, film watching and professionalism is a good example for the younger CBs on the team. I was hoping he could do something with McDoogle and Milliner (oh well). Money well spent I think. Sometimes, when you have the money, you can overpay. Marshall has had more impact this year, but I think it is closer than you think. That being said, Brady was more than happy to throw to Revis - I love his comment about you hate throwing picks, but Revis wouldn't be his first choice. I love this rivalry now that we are no longer a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Amendola doesn't scare me. Edelman, Gronk and White out of the backfield do. Of course the minute Brady gets flustered he gets off his game. If Bowles/Rodgers can get the pass rush up a level or two.....that would help out the back end of the "D" Hopefully, Mauldin can get a step quicker as he gets more playing time and the game slows down for him. Right... while Amendola definitely doesn't scare me as a top option, if we're focused on Gronk/Edelman (and ya kinda have to be), Amendola can become lethal. Those options make it really damn tough getting to Brady inside of 2 to 3 seconds before he gets the ball out. Hell even w/o Edelman and Amendola last week, in the 4th we saw what they can do with just Gronk/White. Definitely will take the D as a whole playing at a real high level with offense keeping pressure on 'em and eating up clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Revis is no longer elite. No question he's a good CB, but you can't just match him up 1-on-1 anymore, which to me, drops him from the elite ranks. In this Defense Bowles runs you were not going to see him in those 1v1 match-ups anyway and he plays more zone. On a few occasions it looked like he got beat when in fact he didn't get the help he was expecting. In Rex's system Revis had a very small window in which to cover his man. His coverage times were very rarely extended due to lack of pressure and that's why his numbers were so insane because QB's usually got rid of the ball quickly and Revis was probably the best ever in such a small window of coverage. Now that he's in a zone his coverage times are much longer and he has to rely on help up top more often, much more often so his job is much different. Honestly I was expecting more INT's from him in the zone but that may take time as they adjust to the new system. Its not easy for the same players who have been running Rex's system for 6 years to just change to a completely different system but they have done well for the most part and really only got torched in a few games which was expected at some point. I think as you see Macc and Bowles adjust the personnel this defense will get that much better and I think you will see more in the way of big plays out of Revis rather than just shutting one guy down. I would much rather have the turnovers because turnovers win games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Revis is no longer elite. No question he's a good CB, but you can't just match him up 1-on-1 anymore, which to me, drops him from the elite ranks. He held Dez Bryant to 1 catch (a TD). He picked off Brady in a huge spot. That's elite, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 In this Defense Bowles runs you were not going to see him in those 1v1 match-ups anyway and he plays more zone. On a few occasions it looked like he got beat when in fact he didn't get the help he was expecting. In Rex's system Revis had a very small window in which to cover his man. His coverage times were very rarely extended due to lack of pressure and that's why his numbers were so insane because QB's usually got rid of the ball quickly and Revis was probably the best ever in such a small window of coverage. Now that he's in a zone his coverage times are much longer and he has to rely on help up top more often, much more often so his job is much different. Honestly I was expecting more INT's from him in the zone but that may take time as they adjust to the new system. Its not easy for the same players who have been running Rex's system for 6 years to just change to a completely different system but they have done well for the most part and really only got torched in a few games which was expected at some point. I think as you see Macc and Bowles adjust the personnel this defense will get that much better and I think you will see more in the way of big plays out of Revis rather than just shutting one guy down. I would much rather have the turnovers because turnovers win games. believe that Brady threw the ball to Revis's WR 2 times. Tough for the CB to do better than 1 inc & 1 int Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 He held Dez Bryant to 1 catch (a TD). He picked off Brady in a huge spot. That's elite, period. So, giving up a TD to Dez Bryant from Kellen Moore and being in the right spot on a miscommunication between Brady and Gronk makes a player elite now? I imagine if those are the criterion, then we could find many more elite players. Neither of these things are knocks on him either, but I stand by the fact that Revis is still a very good CB, but no longer elite or the guy he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 So, giving up a TD to Dez Bryant from Kellen Moore and being in the right spot on a miscommunication between Brady and Gronk makes a player elite now? I imagine if those are the criterion, then we could find many more elite players. Neither of these things are knocks on him either, but I stand by the fact that Revis is still a very good CB, but no longer elite or the guy he was. He may not be the guy he was, but a lot better than most; also there were some games where we had absolutely no pass rush - a CB can only cover so long - I think one game even Westy was saying that it wasn't Revis' fault. Either way, I am glad we have him. Maybe declining but still one of the best. At least we didn't overpay for Suh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 He may not be the guy he was, but a lot better than most; also there were some games where we had absolutely no pass rush - a CB can only cover so long - I think one game even Westy was saying that it wasn't Revis' fault. Either way, I am glad we have him. Maybe declining but still one of the best. At least we didn't overpay for Suh... The thread poses the question, "are we witnessing the decline of the great Darelle Revis." I believe we are. Unfortunately, some people take that to mean that he's not good, or is a waste, or whatever, instead of what the question suggests, which is if he is the type of player he used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 So, giving up a TD to Dez Bryant from Kellen Moore and being in the right spot on a miscommunication between Brady and Gronk makes a player elite now? I imagine if those are the criterion, then we could find many more elite players. Neither of these things are knocks on him either, but I stand by the fact that Revis is still a very good CB, but no longer elite or the guy he was. I think Bugg was being sarcastic, if not WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I think Bugg was being sarcastic, if not WTF I don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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