" Jets hit paydirt with Todd Bowles/Mike Maccagnan tandem " ~ ~ ~

[thadude]

13 minutes ago, kelly said:

Grading Jets' big offseason moves, including David Harris, Eric Decker

>      http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/06/grading_jets_big_offseason_moves_including_calvin.html#incart_river_index

Rico Semeni actually gave Mac a C+ for the offseason on NFL Live. Diana Russini (who is a POA) looked at him befuddled and asked if he was kidding

[j4jets]

2 hours ago, thadude said:

Rico Semeni actually gave Mac a C+ for the offseason on NFL Live. Diana Russini (who is a POA) looked at him befuddled and asked if he was kidding

The article you quoted, the author of it gave the Jets a B+. Yes, the average of all the moves he has graded is a B+. If you were to put a 4.0 gpa to that grade, Jets graded out at a 3.25 gpa, which is pretty good. But in reality, we all know this off season stunk. 

[Dcat]

I wish the Mods would lock this thread because I am so sick of reading the thread title.  Very depressing to know that we once thought the thread title was or would be true.  Now we know that we didn't hit "paydirt". Just dirt.  

[jetscrazey]

LMAO, was this thread started right before the Buffalo game?  This is like Ben Bernanke praising the invincible American economy in 2006.

[kelly]

Should Jets' Mike Maccagnan get to hire Todd Bowles' potential replacement  ? | Mailbag..

>     http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/07/jets_mailbag_todd_bowles_hackenberg_tanking.html#incart_river_index

[Dcat]

17 hours ago, jetscrazey said:

LMAO, was this thread started right before the Buffalo game?  This is like Ben Bernanke praising the invincible American economy in 2006.

You're right. This thread is cursed, and its presence here immediately preceded the Jets nosedive at the end of the 2015 season. It's presence since then has been correlated with nothing but failure.  It should be locked, banned, burned and buried.  

[kelly]

How much has Mike Maccagnan changed Jets' roster in 3 years ?

>     http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/07/how_much_has_mike_maccagnan_changed_jets_roster_in.html#incart_river_index

[kelly]

Gary Myers : Young Roster Is the Way to Go

Team Contributor Ethan Greenberg Talks with NY Daily News Columnist Gary Myers About the Jets' Roster

 

video..

>      http://www.newyorkjets.com/videos/videos/Gary-Myers-Young-Roster-Is-the-Way-to-Go/14f00267-9c33-4e98-bd71-048d4584a29a

[kelly]

-- Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan met with reporters Monday, on the third day of training camp, and he said pretty much what you'd imagine.Maccagnan likes the "good progress" of second-year quarterback Christian Hackenberg, but said Hackenberg will have to earn the starting job.Maccagnan dodged questions about the Jets tanking the 2017 season after they cut so many veterans. He said he doesn't want to put limitations on this year's team. But here's the bottom-line question for the Jets: After a two-year quick rebuild with veterans fell short in 2015 and 2016, will Maccagnan's tear-down and rebuild approach, with a foundation established through the NFL Draft, actually work ?

Check out the video above for our thoughts on that question.The Jets haven't reached the playoffs since 2010, and they likely won't make it this season. That'll be seven straight seasons out of the playoffs. The Jets haven't had a drought that long since they went 11 straight seasons without a playoff trip from 1970-80. 

>    http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/08/watch_will_mike_maccagnans_jets_rebuilding_plan_wo.html#incart_river_index

[kelly]

At least one New York Jets fan is already looking way ahead to the 2018 NFL draft, and he expects his team to draft near the top.During Tuesday night's Tigers-Yankees game in the Bronx, the fan was spotted wearing a custom-made No. 14 Jets jersey with the name "Darnold" on the back.

View image on Twitter

 

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TheZach Weissman @ZachySnacks

Jets fans always with an eye to the future. #Darnold18@KFCBarstool @Suarezteeth9 @MMehtaNYDN

8:56 PM - Aug 1, 2017

 

USC Trojans quarterback Sam Darnold is the No. 1 prospect on Mel Kiper's way-too-early Big Board.

 

-- John Wilmhoff

>      http://www.espn.com/sportsnation/story/_/page/170802QTP_DarnoldJetsJersey/new-york-jets-fan-already-calling-sam-darnold-era-begin

[kelly]

Mike Maccagnan, not Christian Hackenberg, should get blame for the Jets QB's struggles

>   http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/08/mike_maccagnan_not_christian_hackenberg_should_get.html#incart_river_index

[Fantasy Island]

39 minutes ago, kelly said:

Mike Maccagnan, not Christian Hackenberg, should get blame for the Jets QB's struggles

>   http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/08/mike_maccagnan_not_christian_hackenberg_should_get.html#incart_river_index

Great article., Mac has to go.

[varjet]

58 minutes ago, kelly said:

Mike Maccagnan, not Christian Hackenberg, should get blame for the Jets QB's struggles

>   http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/08/mike_maccagnan_not_christian_hackenberg_should_get.html#incart_river_index

This article makes some great points, although it is more impactful this week than last, as the 2016 draft class had a much better week (Shell, Lee, Edwards) last week.

There is no question that Mac has not succeeded at his job.  The question now is how do you fix it.  If Woody hires another first time GM, the odds of the same things happening are pretty good.

In the Jets recent glory days, Woody hired Tanny has GM and demoted Bradway.  The model at least resulted in some temporary success.

Although you can see this go the other way, I get the impression that the Jets are behind in terms of using analytics.  Macc seems like a very old school watch the tape guy.  I think he needs to dig a little deeper to find players that will succeed in the NFL.

[pdxgreen]

Paydirt is still DIRT!

[kelly]

Todd Bowles did the only thing he could do on Monday.

The Jets coach named veteran journeyman Josh McCown as the starting quarterback.

Quite simply, Bowles had no other choice. And he made the correct choice. For the moment.

Of more importance and interest, however, is the decision Bowles declined to reveal on Monday: Who McCown’s backup will be.

Everyone — Bowles included — knows it should be Bryce Petty, who has out-performed second-year second-round draft pick Christian Hackenberg so significantly in preseason, Jets fans must think they’ve been watching a quarterback competition between Namath and Nagle.But all is unfair in politics and football, which is why Bowles (surely with input from owner Woody Johnson and GM Mike Maccagnan) bent over backward all offseason and summer to keep the door open for Hackenberg to win the starting job.After weeks of Bowles playing a thoroughly unnecessary game of coy and not telling the actual truth about his quarterback plans (as if Jets opponents were quaking in their cleats about it), Monday’s big reveal that McCown will start is actually a more damning revelation about Hackenberg’s failure to seize his moment.

So the Jets must start McCown now. They must at least give the appearance they’re serious about trying to win games at the start of the season. Eventually that charade will wear off like a temporary tattoo and Hackenberg will get his chance to play in real games. That’s when the true evaluation process will take place.Bowles said he chose McCown over Hackenberg and Petty, because McCown gives the Jets “the best chance to win.”“He had the best grasp of the offense right now,” Bowles said. “The other two got significantly better, but [McCown] still had the best grasp of the offense right now.”

Bowles said he has “faith’’ Hackenberg “is getting better.”

“And if the opportunity presents to where he gets to prove himself again, I’m sure he’ll step up and get better each week,” he said.

Hackenberg has been in bubble wrap since the Jets drafted him — essentially red-shirted last season, his rookie year, not playing a single snap. The most distressing element to this whole dance is the fact Hackenberg showed he simply isn’t ready to play in a real game.That doesn’t mean he’ll never be ready. It just means, at best, he’s a slow-developing project. It’s unfair to label a 22-year-old quarterback, who’s been surrounded with last-place talent, a bust.Hackenberg, who showed marked improvement this summer under the guidance of new quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates, may eventually become an NFL starter. Just not now. Not after his preseason, which has included leading the offense to fewer points (nine) than he has yielded (16, thanks to two pick-sixes and a safety).Perhaps the best thing to happen to the 38-year-old McCown has been not playing in preseason games, because he won the job by default. McCown has played in only one series in preseason — the first drive of the opener, which ended in a touchdown.

While Bowles’ handling of McCown has been, at best, curious by not playing him, he can help himself, McCown and the rest of the team by playing the veteran in the Jets’ preseason finale Thursday night against the Eagles at MetLife Stadium.In his two seasons as the Jets coach, Bowles has rested his starters in the final preseason game. The smart move this Thursday would be to get McCown a series or two with the starters — regardless of whether the Eagles are playing their starters or not — just to get him into some semblance of rhythm before the Sept. 10 opener in Buffalo.Not to play McCown on Thursday would be a miscalculation of who he is — a quarterback who has a 2-20 record in his last three seasons as a starter. We’re not talking about Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees, established veterans who have played in the same respective systems for years with a high level of success (see: many wins and titles).

Even if he’d played every snap of preseason, McCown still would enter the season opener against the Bills as a massive question mark based on his dodgy history. Making it even more urgent that he plays Thursday is the fact that McCown has barely taken any practice reps with the first team over the last two weeks.Bowles, though, said he’s “not concerned at all” about McCown being ready for the opener despite his lack of reps.

Well, he probably should be.

>      http://nypost.com/2017/08/28/true-test-for-todd-bowles-comes-after-naming-jets-starter/

[kelly]

Mike Maccagnan was convinced that he had just lost his quarterback when the news broke: The Texans leap-frogged the Jets and were on the clock with the No. 50 pick of the 2016 draft.Houston swung a deal with the Falcons to move up two spots by parting ways with a sixth-round pick. Now, the Jets brain trust was convinced that Bill O’Brien was poised to select former pupil Christian Hackenberg.

“Everybody thought, ‘Well, Hackenberg is going there,'" a team insider told the Daily News.

It made perfect sense, after all. O’Brien had gotten the best out of the true freshman quarterback at Penn State three years earlier. Surely, he had jumped the signal caller-starved Jets to reunite with Hackenberg.But the Texans drafted Notre Dame center Nick Martin. Hackenberg was still on the board, but there were fair concerns from people within the Jets organization about taking him so early.Some thought it made little sense given that the quarterback would have almost certainly been available one, two or maybe even three rounds later.It was Maccagnan’s show, of course, and there was a belief on One Jets Drive that the Texans’ trade had shaken him. One year after taking a flier on fourth-round project Bryce Petty, the general manager saw promise in Hackenberg

The general manager was so enamored by Hackenberg’s physical traits and football IQ stemming from an impressive personal workout/meeting at Happy Valley that waiting was no longer an option for him.The Jets wouldn’t pick again until the 83rd selection (20th pick of the third round). Although some people on One Jets Drive wanted to wait, the man in the big chair did not. The Texans’ trade placed enough doubt in Maccagnan’s mind that he would lose out on Hackenberg if he waited another round, according to team insiders.

“When the Texans traded up …” one team insider said. “I don’t want to say it spooked him, but it made him want to go ahead and take Hackenberg.”

So, he did.

It’s fair to wonder about the wisdom of a move that has yielded no tangible returns.Hackenberg has become an easy target after a pair of lackluster preseason starts cost him a chance at winning the starting job officially claimed by Josh McCown on Monday. He’s been the most scrutinized player on the most talent-deficient team in the league, fodder for those ready to toss him on the trash heap before he’s ever played in a regular-season game.The criticism has been ratcheted up primarily because of something Hackenberg had no control over: when he was drafted.Would there have been the same outrage over Hackenberg’s underwhelming preseason (65.1 rating, two pick sixes and only three points on 13 drives with the starters) if he were a fourth-round pick? Of course not.

Project quarterbacks typically get the benefit of the doubt … unless their general managers overdraft them. The reality is that second-rounders, regardless of position, are expected to be immediate contributors in this profession.Maccagnan inherited an awful roster (see: John Idzik’s ghastly 12-man 2014 draft class), so he couldn’t afford whiffing on a second-round pick.

The NFL landscape is littered with recent second-round quarterbacks who never made it (Jimmy Clausen, Geno Smith, Brock Osweiler et al.). It’s not a fireable offense for a GM, but it certainly hasn’t aided the prime objective to rebuild this roster through the draft.It’s unfair to lampoon Hackenberg, because the truth is that he should have been a third, fourth or perhaps even fifth-round pick. It’s not unfair to question Maccagnan’s decision to take him so soon.There’s no doubt that Hackenberg has made important improvements in the past year and a half, but the rate of development isn’t nearly fast enough given the big picture for this franchise. “It’s baby steps,” Hackenberg said. “I’m not saying that’s a total 180… but I feel like just having that experience (is important).”“He continues to get better,” quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates said. “As a young quarterback in the NFL, I don’t think you just sign a contract and automatically become Peyton Manning. There’s going to be bumps in the road. There’s going to be ups and downs. The great ones have to come back and watch tape and learn from both the positive and negative experiences and grow from that.”

Hackenberg has a commendable work ethic. He’s handled himself like an adult when it would have been easy to lash out in the face of all this chaos.Although Todd Bowles maintained that “I have faith that he’s getting better,” the second-year quarterback has a definite deadline to meet.If Hackenberg doesn’t sufficiently impress team decision makers by the end of the calendar year, it’s over. The organization will draft Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen or Josh Allen to be the next quarterback hope.

“He’s 22 years old,” Bowles said of Hackenberg. “He has time to grow.”

Time is running out thanks to heightened expectations stemming from his draft position. Hackenberg’s inability to beat out a 38-year-old journeyman in a summer-long competition is an indictment on the man who drafted him more than anything else.  

>      http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/happened-day-jets-drafted-christian-hackenberg-article-1.3450117

[Charlie Brown]

2 hours ago, kelly said:

We’re not talking about Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees, established veterans who have played in the same respective systems for years with a high level of success (see: many wins and titles).

Even if he’d played every snap of preseason, McCown still would enter the season opener against the Bills as a massive question mark based on his dodgy history. Making it even more urgent that he plays Thursday is the fact that McCown has barely taken any practice reps with the first team over the last two weeks.Bowles, though, said he’s “not concerned at all” about McCown being ready for the opener despite his lack of reps.

Well, he probably should be.

>      http://nypost.com/2017/08/28/true-test-for-todd-bowles-comes-after-naming-jets-starter/

Hmmmmm good article...

Interesting how I made the very same point in a post a few days ago and it comes up in this article... just saying  

[kelly]

How the Jets Became the NFL’s Biggest Trainwreck in 2017

>     https://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/how-the-jets-became-the-nfls-biggest-trainwreck-in-2017.html/?ref=YF&yptr=yahoo

[kelly]

Give Mike Maccagnan credit: He handled Jets' trade of Sheldon Richardson perfectly

It's easy to get on Mike Maccagnan. His performance his first two years as Jets' GM has fallen somewhere between John Idzik and Mike Tannenbaum on the faulty executive scale.

His free-agent signings thus far are lackluster. His draft picks mostly inept. The Jets are no better now than they were when he first walked in the building. They're worse.But it would be ignorant to ignore Maccagnan's latest transaction. Wrong not to give credit where it's due.The way he handled the trade of Sheldon Richardson was perfect.

One day after the Jets concluded their preseason, Maccagnan shipped the troubled defensive end and a 2018 seventh-round pick across the country. In exchange, the Seahawks sent back receiver Jermaine Kearse, a 2018 second-round pick, and their own seventh rounder.It brought an end to a two-year will-he, won't-he saga regarding a possible Richardson trade. The Jets waited and waited until a team offered them something they liked. Then, they agreed.And what they liked turned out to be quite the haul.

"We have some good young defensive linemen," Maccagnan said. "Sheldon was a part of that. But, in return, it allowed us to sort of entertain options there.

"Sometimes teams that have needs and surpluses find fits that work well for potential trades."

>        http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/09/give_mike_maccagnan_credit_he_handled_jets_trade_o.html#incart_river_index

[kelly]

Maccagnan Sticks to Plan with Trade

Eric AllenSenior ReporterEmail @eallenjets

GM Felt the Jets Got 'Good Fit, Good Value' for Friday's Trade

The Jets want to build through the draft and they had an immediate need to get better at wide receiver. They also have a talented defensive line that has intriguing depth, so Friday’s blockbuster deal made sense on a number of levels.“We felt it was kind of a good fit, good value for the trade,” said GM Mike Maccagnan after his club acquired veteran WR Jermaine Kearse from Seattle in addition to the ‘Hawks second and seventh-round draft picks next April in exchange for DL Sheldon Richardson and the Jets’ Round 7 selection next spring. “We obviously acquired a future pick and we’ve always talked about building this thing through the draft, so that stays with our plan from that standpoint. We also picked up a good player from the receiver standpoint, which we’ll add to our wide receiver room and help our young guys come along.”
 

 

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After losing Quincy Enunwa to a bulging disk in his neck, the Jets became an awfully young, inexperienced group at receiver. Robby Anderson had a good camp and rookies ArDarius Stewartand Chan Hansen have started to emerge, but neither has played a regular-season game. In Kearse, the Green & White immediately pick up a starting caliber receiver who has played on the biggest stage.“When we lost Quincy, it was obviously unfortunate and we knew it was going to be tough with a young group of players. With Quincy — even though he wasn’t a very old player — he was sort of the veteran of the group,” Maccagnan said. “I wouldn’t classify it or characterize it as our motivation for the trade.”
 

The second-round pick is key for the Jets. Having a pair of second-rounders next April gives the team just another opportunity to gain an instant impact player in the draft. And while Richardson is an immense talent, there was no guarantee he was going to be here past 2017.

“Sheldon was in the option year of his contract. He was going to become a free agent at the end of the year. It allows us an opportunity to acquire some draft capital and a player we feel may bring an element to our team not only from a talent standpoint, but from a character and intangible standpoint into our receiver room,” Maccagnan added of Kearse. “In reality, teams that have needs and surpluses kind of work well for potential trades.”In Richardson, Leonard Williams and Muhammad Wilkerson, the Jets had three Pro Bowl talents. But there were certain packages they were not going to used on the field at the same time. There is rotational depth up front with veteran Steve McLendon, who can play nose, leading the way. Williams is a budding star and the Jets hope Wilkerson can regain his 2015 form next fall.

While Kearse isn’t a game-breaker, the Jets got a dependable player and the second-round pick in return. Some wondered if the Jets could get only a second-round pick if they opted to deal Richardson.“When you make a decision, you do try to make them both short and long term,” said the third-year general manager. “From that standpoint, we felt good about the potential trade to help us out in what we want to accomplish in terms of short and long term.”

>   http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/article-7/Maccagnan-Sticks-to-Plan-with-Trade/c756b6dd-4b4d-4185-b738-4e99d08b7875

[kelly]

NFL experts: How to rebuild Jets after impending disaster

>     http://nypost.com/2017/09/06/tanking-experts-how-to-rebuild-jets-after-impending-disaster/

[Beerfish]

Wut?  The Jets need to get a franchise Qb but also build the oline and get an outside pass rusher?  whoulda thunk it?

[kelly]

5 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Wut?  The Jets need to get a franchise Qb but also build the oline and get an outside pass rusher?  whoulda thunk it?

 

[Integrity28]

3 draft classes in: Josh McCown starting QB.

I don't need to analyze anything else about his drafts. Mac has wasted draft capital on sh*tty veterans via trade, and worse, on players who just can't contribute to the big picture. The Jets hired him to solve the problem of being a bottom-barrel team because of bad drafting and wasting draft capital, and all he's done is continue the same. Throw in a few bad contracts and it's as if we never hired anyone different. 

[kelly]

Maccagnan should learn from the Raiders’ rebuild

>  http://nypost.com/2017/09/13/what-mike-maccagnan-should-learn-from-the-raiders-rebuild/

[kelly]

Does Jets ownership trust Mike Maccagnan to make another QB pick ?

>    http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/71279/does-jets-ownership-trust-mike-maccagnan-to-make-another-qb-pick

[kelly]

There was a lot of hand-wringing this winter and spring over who the Jets let go as they tore down the roster, but so far Mike Maccagnan looks like he made good decisions.

Darrelle Revis and Nick Mangold are out of the league, unable to find work. Ryan Clady is retired. Brandon Marshall has two catches in two weeks for the Giants, plus a monster drop in Monday night’s loss. Eric Decker has six receptions in two games for the Titans. Breno Giacomini is starting at right tackle for the Texans, who have allowed 13 sacks in two games. Marcus Gilchrist is a backup on those same Texans. Ryan Fitzpatrick is a backup in Tampa Bay. David Harris has played three snaps in two games for the Patriots.

Those are just all the salary-cap casualties. Calvin Pryor was cut by the Browns after Maccagnan traded him there and is now on IR with the Jaguars. Sheldon Richardson has four tackles in two weeks for the Seahawks after his trade.About the only ex-Jet off to a hot start is kicker Nick Folk, who made all three of his field-goal attempts Sunday for the Buccaneers.Even that move looks good for Maccagnan, though. Chandler Catanzaro, Folk’s replacement, is 4-for-4 on field-goal attempts, and costs $2.1 million less than Folk was due to cost.

The Jets roster might look ugly, but it is hard to quibble with the decisions Maccagnan made this offseason.

>    http://nypost.com/2017/09/19/mike-maccagnan-was-right-in-getting-rid-of-these-ex-jets/

[#27TheDominator]

12 minutes ago, kelly said:

There was a lot of hand-wringing this winter and spring over who the Jets let go as they tore down the roster, but so far Mike Maccagnan looks like he made good decisions.

Darrelle Revis and Nick Mangold are out of the league, unable to find work. Ryan Clady is retired. Brandon Marshall has two catches in two weeks for the Giants, plus a monster drop in Monday night’s loss. Eric Decker has six receptions in two games for the Titans. Breno Giacomini is starting at right tackle for the Texans, who have allowed 13 sacks in two games. Marcus Gilchrist is a backup on those same Texans. Ryan Fitzpatrick is a backup in Tampa Bay. David Harris has played three snaps in two games for the Patriots.

Those are just all the salary-cap casualties. Calvin Pryor was cut by the Browns after Maccagnan traded him there and is now on IR with the Jaguars. Sheldon Richardson has four tackles in two weeks for the Seahawks after his trade.About the only ex-Jet off to a hot start is kicker Nick Folk, who made all three of his field-goal attempts Sunday for the Buccaneers.Even that move looks good for Maccagnan, though. Chandler Catanzaro, Folk’s replacement, is 4-for-4 on field-goal attempts, and costs $2.1 million less than Folk was due to cost.

The Jets roster might look ugly, but it is hard to quibble with the decisions Maccagnan made this offseason.

>    http://nypost.com/2017/09/19/mike-maccagnan-was-right-in-getting-rid-of-these-ex-jets/

Good stuff!  He is paying $6M to a CB that isn't good enough to be in the league?  Genius!  $1.3M for a safety that is only a backup on the Texans?  He signed Harris to a big deal, but the guy can't even get snaps for the Pats. His offseason plan was for Clady to be at LT and the guy is out of the league.  Brandon Marshall?  He traded for the guy.  WTF?  Why would anyone act like purging a roster of guys you signed 2 years ago showed some kind of intelligence.  It only reinforces the previous bad decisions.  That Giacomini was around to cut this offseason was an abomination. The Jets are paying over $12M to guys Maccagnan signed on this list.  Can I quibble with that?

[dbatesman]

1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said:

Good stuff!  He is paying $6M to a CB that isn't good enough to be in the league?  Genius!  $1.3M for a safety that is only a backup on the Texans?  He signed Harris to a big deal, but the guy can't even get snaps for the Pats. His offseason plan was for Clady to be at LT and the guy is out of the league.  Brandon Marshall?  He traded for the guy.  WTF?  Why would anyone act like purging a roster of guys you signed 2 years ago showed some kind of intelligence.  It only reinforces the previous bad decisions.  That Giacomini was around to cut this offseason was an abomination. The Jets are paying over $12M to guys Maccagnan signed on this list.  Can I quibble with that?

We could cut Mauldin and Hackenberg tomorrow, and the chuckleheads around here would laud Maccagnan for "getting the dead weight off the roster."

[kelly]

GM's moves — large and small — salvaged Jets' roster on the fly

>    http://nypost.com/2017/09/25/gms-moves-large-and-small-salvaged-jets-roster-on-the-fly/

[kelly]

Mike Maccagnan's oft-stated preference is to build through the college draft. Most general managers feel that way, but we all know it's not the only method for bringing talent into the building.Take a look at the New York Jets' first three games, and you'll notice several contributors were acquired via trades and the waiver wire -- almost like a second draft. The downside is all but two will be free agents after the season, creating a short-term feel.

A ranking of the veteran additions, using a draft-related theme to put them in order :

Round 1: WR Jermaine Kearse (acquired: trade) -- He leads the Jets in receptions (14), receiving yards (165) and touchdowns (two). Teammates say he's doing a terrific job behind the scenes, mentoring the young receivers. The Jets got Kearse and a second-round pick for Sheldon Richardson -- a nice deal so far. He's signed through 2018.

Round 2: MLB Demario Davis (trade) -- Two words: Highway robbery. In June, the Jets re-acquired Davis in exchange for draft bust Calvin Pryor (since released by the Cleveland Browns). Davis was "thinking too much" in the first two games, per coach Todd Bowles, but he rebounded with a strong game against the Miami Dolphins. He will have good days and bad days, but he's an every-down linebacker who runs the defense -- and there's value in that.

Round 3: WR Jeremy Kerley (free agent) -- Like Davis, he's in his second stint with the Jets, who scooped him up after he was released by the San Francisco 49ers on cutdown day. Josh McCown is perfect when he throws to Kerley: eight targets, eight catches. He's a hold-the-fort player until one of the young receivers is ready for a bigger role.

Round 4: DE Kony Ealy(waivers) -- Picked up before the final preseason game, Ealy has played in 61 percent of the defensive snaps, recording six tackles and one pass break-up. He plays mostly in sub packages, but he can play in the base as a 3-4 outside linebacker, as he did in the opener. He tends to freelance at times, but it's hard to find 25-year-old defensive linemen with upside.

Round 5: S Terrence Brooks(trade) -- In his first extensive action, Brooks made two interceptions in the win over the Dolphins. He replaced Jamal Adams for about 10 plays, and he also saw time in sub packages, showing range and a nose for the ball. Brooks arrived in a preseason trade that sent cornerback Dexter McDougle to the Philadelphia Eagles. His versatility creates game-plan flexibility.

Round 6: TE Will Tye (waivers) -- Desperate for an experienced tight end, the Jets picked him up on the roster cutdown and tossed him into the lineup immediately. Tye's playing time figures to decrease now that Austin Seferian-Jenkins is back from suspension, and it could shrink further when Eric Tomlinson and rookie Jordan Leggett get healthy.

Round 7: LS Thomas Hennessy (trade) -- The Jets pulled off a rare long-snapper trade with the Indianapolis Colts, replacing the venerable Tanner Purdum. They preferred Hennessy, a rookie, because he's faster and better on punt coverage. So far, so good. He's signed through 2019.

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[BigO]

On 9/7/2017 at 12:34 PM, Integrity28 said:

3 draft classes in: Josh McCown starting QB.

I don't need to analyze anything else about his drafts. Mac has wasted draft capital on sh*tty veterans via trade, and worse, on players who just can't contribute to the big picture. The Jets hired him to solve the problem of being a bottom-barrel team because of bad drafting and wasting draft capital, and all he's done is continue the same. Throw in a few bad contracts and it's as if we never hired anyone different. 

The truth is out there. Actually it's in this post. A+++++++++

[j4jets]

So Mac traded for a couple of average-below average starters. That's good cuz if he had to sign them via FA, those players would be making 8+ mil. 

[joewilly12]

We are 1-2 winning 1 game doesn't change a damn thing for me, the Jets are starting a 38 year old QB  there are many questions surrounding this team and its roster as far as I'm concerned Macc has failed us if the best he could do in 3 years was 2 38 year old QB's. 

 

[kelly]

 -- The smart folks at ESPN Stats & Information can research a statistic for every conceivable scenario, but not everything about football can be quantified with numbers. They can't rate a team's chemistry (at least I don't think they can). It's the ultimate X factor, part of what makes sports fun.

So, no, I don't have any hard evidence on the subject; you'll have to take my word for it when I say the New York Jets have better team chemistry than last season. This is a more together group than the fractured group from 2016 that tapped out at the first sign of adversity. The seminal moment was the Brandon Marshall-Sheldon Richardson confrontation in Week 3, which created a toxic environment for the remainder of the season.Give credit to general manager Mike Maccagnan and coach Todd Bowles for cleaning up the mess. Applying the addition-by-subtraction philosophy to many of their offseason moves, they cleansed the locker room of the "me" guys and set-in-their-ways veterans. Some decisions were based on economics, but the vast majority were football/attitude moves.Four weeks into the season, there's not one player you wish they had back. It's a long year and things can change, but you can't second-guess them for any of the pink slips.

Marshall and Eric Decker are averaging less than 10 yards per catch for the New York Giants and Tennessee Titans, respectively. Richardson still is looking for his first sack with the Seattle Seahawks. David Harris was inactive last Sunday and has played only seven defensive snaps for the New England Patriots.Ryan Fitzpatrick and Geno Smith are backups for the Tampa Bay Buccaneersand Giants, respectively. Nick Folk already has missed two field goals and two extra points for the Bucs. Calvin Pryor is on the Jacksonville Jaguars' injured reserve, one step away from being bounced out of the league. Nick Mangold and Darrelle Revis, two future Ring of Honor members, remain unemployed.Bowles didn't want to rip the departed, saying Monday, "[Our two wins] aren't a product of subtractions. You move on when a veteran leaves you. You just have to develop as a team. The two wins are a product of them just working hard and coming together. It has nothing to do with the guys that left."

Well, it has something to do with them, but it's also about their replacements. In most cases, the Jets plugged in a younger player. Young players are hungry, more receptive to coaching. They don't know what they don't know, so they can be molded into what the head coach wants. The only position where the Jets went heavy on age over youth is quarterback. Josh McCown, 38, has emerged as the team leader -- the camp counselor, so to speak."The chemistry is high, as far as on the positive side," McCown said. "I felt that since I've been here, and we've done nothing to take away from that. It's probably one of the better places for me that I've been in 15 years."

Bowles believes the team started coming together in the offseason. Many around the team believe they've been galvanized by the outside criticism. It wasn't the intended byproduct, but the roster overhaul bonded the newcomers and those that survived the purge."Football, as in other sports, you can't really listen to outside noise," Bowles said. "You have to understand what you have and you have to build it from within, and just let everybody else talk and just play your game."

It's hard to predict how many games the surprising Jets (2-2) will win, but I know this: They won't lose because of rotten chemistry.

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