stugotz81 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 A lot of what seemed like Revis getting beat or abused tonight by Watkins was due to the zone coverage the Jets were playing. Revis was not pressing Watkins at the line and then getting beat. I would have expected Revis to play him with press coverage and have some safety help over the top. It seems thats where Revis is at his best IMO More concerned of the defensive play calling then Revis if anything....I would expect Norman or any other elite CB to have the same success in that defensive scheme today. At the same time, maybe Bowles had no faith today in Revis playing Watkins on the line...idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 A lot of what seemed like Revis getting beat or abused tonight by Watkins was due to the zone coverage the Jets were playing. Revis was not pressing Watkins at the line and then getting beat. I would have expected Revis to play him with press coverage and have some safety help over the top. It seems thats where Revis is at his best IMO More concerned of the defensive play calling then Revis if anything....I would expect Norman or any other elite CB to have the same success in that defensive scheme today. At the same time, maybe Bowles had no faith today in Revis playing Watkins on the line...idk Bowles showed he was a rookie HC today and has a lot to learn. No mid-game adjustments on defense was disappointing. They should've rolled safety coverage and forced Bills to beat them with Salas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I don't blame Revis but the biggest reason we lost is because the defense could not stop Watkins, especially on quite a few 3rd down conversions. I think he needed a man pressed on him at the line for zone and man coverages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Tyrod Taylor beat the Jets. We had no answer for him. Even when he was dead in the pocket we couldn't sack him. Bills had the better QB today, plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 Tyrod Taylor beat the Jets. We had no answer for him. Even when he was dead in the pocket we couldn't sack him. Bills had the better QB today, plain and simple. Agree but I feel like we let Tyrod Taylor beat us. We had the tools in place to smoke the bills today but the defense played so soft it was pathetic to even watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Our game plan was horrible, there was no reason not to let Revis play the man coverage we pay him for and give him help if he needs it. Instead we just gave Watkins more cushion coming out of the half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 That was a crap defensive game plan put together by Bowles, compounded by the fact that they played a finesse team last week and weren't ready for the physicality of the Bills. Revis did play like crap though, giving way too much cushion and respecting the deep ball on a windy day too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I don't blame Revis but the biggest reason we lost is because the defense could not stop Watkins, especially on quite a few 3rd down conversions. I think he needed a man pressed on him at the line for zone and man coverages. this, I don't know what coverages they were in, but the reason we lost was because of Watkins. Not sure if its all Revis fault, but it is obvious we're going to regret that contract for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Our game plan was horrible, there was no reason not to let Revis play the man coverage we pay him for and give him help if he needs it. Instead we just gave Watkins more cushion coming out of the half Not to quote the Devil. But what does BB do? He takes away your #1 option, and makes your #2 beat him. Use Revis and a safety, double Watkins, and if Tyrod and their other options beat you, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Not to quote the Devil. But what does BB do? He takes away your #1 option, and makes your #2 beat him. Use Revis and a safety, double Watkins, and if Tyrod and their other options beat you, so be it. I ******* hate mumbles but I've been upset multiple times this year that we don't A) give Revis help or B ) use him like BB and have him cover the 2 and double the #1 Today we didn't even let Revis press a guy he held to 3 catches last game, instead we increased the cushion it looked like in the second half Revis Island has been a peninsula at best all year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I ******* hate mumbles but I've been upset multiple times this year that we don't A) give Revis help or B ) use him like BB and have him cover the 2 and double the #1 Today we didn't even let Revis press a guy he held to 3 catches last game, instead we increased the cushion it looked like in the second half Revis Island has been a peninsula at best all year We have talked about it before. Even the Great Deion Sanders would go against the Cowboys #2, while they doubled Irvin. You wipe out their #2 that way, and then use 2 guys on the one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 We have talked about it before. Even the Great Deion Sanders would go against the Cowboys #2, while they doubled Irvin. You wipe out their #2 that way, and then use 2 guys on the one. I've ignored the message board since like week 2. I only come here when I'm either really depressed or really happy. I missed the conversation on the board. I just watched the games and we suck at game planning, we where out coached by a dunk tank clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I've ignored the message board since like week 2. I only come here when I'm either really depressed or really happy. I missed the conversation on the board. I just watched the games and we suck at game planning, we where out coached by a dunk tank clown Not us specifically, as in you and me. But I have had that conversation with other people on the board more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 A lot of what seemed like Revis getting beat or abused tonight by Watkins was due to the zone coverage the Jets were playing. Revis was not pressing Watkins at the line and then getting beat. I would have expected Revis to play him with press coverage and have some safety help over the top. It seems thats where Revis is at his best IMO More concerned of the defensive play calling then Revis if anything....I would expect Norman or any other elite CB to have the same success in that defensive scheme today. At the same time, maybe Bowles had no faith today in Revis playing Watkins on the line...idk If he was in zone it does not matter, these catches happened in his zone, want QB money you need to be able to read those plays in your zone, and make the plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Defense made the necessary stops when it was time to win the game . They gave the ball to Fitz and the offense 3 times and only gave up 3 points after the Redzone pick .. Offense did not capitalize . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furor Teutonicus Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Simple. You can't stay away 2-3 steps from Sammy Watkins. At worst you need to double him. He's a differencemaker for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Revis is now an $8M a yr best case, said it all yr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Can we get Rex back? This conservative zone bs lost us the game. Watkins shredded us and Salas was open way too many times for a scrub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Slow LB's hurt the underneath coverage in the zones. Rex attacked the weak spot of the Jets. Fitz choked in the 4th. Jets lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 At the end of the day the defense gave up 22 points with some of them coming directly off of a shanked punt. The defense did not lose the game. The Jets unforced penalties, slow start, putrid running game and ultimately the INT's cost us the game. Jackasses like the drdetroit will post nonsense about the defense being the reason why we lost because he trolls his own fan base but the defense played well enough to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Zone coverage isn't a plenary indulgence for bad cornerback play. Revis was horrible. He can still just plain out-talent most of the receivers in the league but now that he's signed his last contract nobody should be expecting him to win matchups any other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Lost in discussion was that Prior was also Brutal yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Lost in discussion was that Prior was also Brutal yesterday Too many games where Pryor disappears. His focus in the off season is to become a CONSISTENT safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 At the end of the day the defense gave up 22 points with some of them coming directly off of a shanked punt. The defense did not lose the game. The Jets unforced penalties, slow start, putrid running game and ultimately the INT's cost us the game. Jackasses like the drdetroit will post nonsense about the defense being the reason why we lost because he trolls his own fan base but the defense played well enough to win. All you need to do is look at the TOP , the defense lost the game yesterday. After scoring offensive TDs the D let the Bills run the clock and get their own scores - pathetic. What were the Bills like 12-19 on 3rd downs that's a disgrace - The D lost the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 A lot of what seemed like Revis getting beat or abused tonight by Watkins was due to the zone coverage the Jets were playing. Revis was not pressing Watkins at the line and then getting beat. I would have expected Revis to play him with press coverage and have some safety help over the top. It seems thats where Revis is at his best IMO More concerned of the defensive play calling then Revis if anything....I would expect Norman or any other elite CB to have the same success in that defensive scheme today. At the same time, maybe Bowles had no faith today in Revis playing Watkins on the line...idk this game was on Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furor Teutonicus Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Did anyone notice that Revis slipped a lot, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 The old saying "we played not to lose" was applicable here. Revis played off all day. He was abused, but I think the scheme for the day had some to do with it. It's one thing to play 10 yards off, which isn't good, but you don't have to keep that cushion the entire play! I blame both Revis and the scheme. At some point, we needed to play press man on Watkins, even with safeties over the top and dare them to go deep. If they beat us, we still wouldn't have been happy, but I almost think it would have been better, down 2 with 10 minutes to go, to have them score a TD and be down 9 with 8:30 left than it was being down 5 with 3:45 left. I know that sounds crazy, but we needed to take the risk of stopping them quickly and we didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Revis retired on the field yesterday. I'd be sitting with him one on one, watching this tape and asking him how on earth he thinks he's worth QB money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Huge Revis fan but he let me down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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