2016 Mets Thread!

[chirorob]

14 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Priority now has to be moving Bruce for a catcher. Supposedly the Jays want Bruce bad, I'd do Martin for Bruce straight up most definitely.

Good trade, plus you know he can handle NY.

[JohnJ]

Here's some from conjecture from the SNY blog, which I like because he likes Fowler who I covet. Sounds like they want to hold onto Conforto but I don't believe he'll be a good CF but am willing to take a look at RF. 

Getting Fowler would make it easier to plug in a guy like Wieters at C if that's what it would take to land Folwer and solidify us up the middle and get us some speed....WITH Jose

Everybody's plugging in Wright and putting Reyes on the bench and that is a major pain in my ass, but I'll wait and see about that. C'mon man.

 

What would I do?

It looks like the Mets can operate as if having around $10 million more to spend this winter, assuming they deal Bruce and clear his salary.

If I were the GM, I would try to trade Travis d'Arnaud and Bruce or Granderson to the Blue Jays in a deal that gets me Russell Martin, who is due a whopping $20 million each of the next three seasons.

To raise money, I would then work to send Granderson to the Orioles for a low-cost reliever.

I'd then give a three- or four-year deal to Dexter Fowler, which after all the addition and subtraction, would put my Opening Day payroll around $142 million.

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In this reality, my outfield would be Cespedes, Fowler and Conforto, with Martin behind the plate, Asdrubal Cabrera and Neil Walker manning my middle infield, David Wright and Lucas Duda on the corners, and Wilmer Flores and Jose Reyes backing up the infield. I'd also have two leadoff hitters, more balance in my lineup, three guys that can switch hit and a tough, veteran catcher to guide my pitching staff, which, let's be honest, is the most important part of the roster.

 

[RutgersJetFan]

I wanted Fowler last season, really like the idea of him, Ces, and Conforto, with De Aza, Nimmo, and Lagares off the bench. That's a solid OF. It's a shame that Nimmo may get frozen out of some more playing time as a result, but the Mets just shelled out a f-ckton of money for some short term success and you have to go for it.

Heyman is reporting that Granderson is drawing more interest than Bruce. It's would be pretty amazing if Sandy could unload both, acquire a catcher and some prospects, then use the extra dough to sign Fowler. Along with the Yo contract, sign me up for that offseason any day.

[RutgersJetFan]

Verrett to the O's for cash.

Fare thee well, Logan. You may not have been the most physically talented guy, but you played your ass off when the team needed you to and did everything they asked.

[Scott Dierking]

29 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

I wanted Fowler last season, really like the idea of him, Ces, and Conforto, with De Aza, Nimmo, and Lagares off the bench. That's a solid OF. It's a shame that Nimmo may get frozen out of some more playing time as a result, but the Mets just shelled out a f-ckton of money for some short term success and you have to go for it.

Heyman is reporting that Granderson is drawing more interest than Bruce. It's would be pretty amazing if Sandy could unload both, acquire a catcher and some prospects, then use the extra dough to sign Fowler. Along with the Yo contract, sign me up for that offseason any day.

DeAza is a free agent. It was just a one year deal he signed with the Mets, I believe.

Wonder why Sandy is trying to get less left handed? Hmmmm?  SMH

[RutgersJetFan]

1 minute ago, Scott Dierking said:

DeAza is a free agent. It was just a one year deal he signed with the Mets, I believe.

Wonder why Sandy is trying to get less left handed? Hmmmm?  SMH

Ah, for some reason I thought he got the same deal Cabrera got.

[JiFtheOracle]

20 hours ago, SMC said:

 

Thor and Yo are the cutest couple in sports:

 

[JohnJ]

9 minutes ago, JiF said:

Thor and Yo are the cutest couple in sports:

 

Thor has a major man crush on Yo.

 

But so do I lol, and I saw him first in Oakland 

[JiFtheOracle]

5 minutes ago, JohnJ said:

Thor has a major man crush on Yo.

 

But so do I lol, and I saw him first in Oakland 

He makes my heart melt.  Both do actually. 

[faba]

Well you have to assume Famillia will be suspended for a block of games so relief pitching help has to be part of the equation also

[JohnJ]

On 11/29/2016 at 5:25 PM, Scott Dierking said:

News today that Harvey is coming along great also.

This is good news. The dude is an enigma. But it would be beautiful to see him 100% healthy at least. I'm not expecting the Dark Knight anymore. But a healthy Harvey pitching like a #2 or even a #3 would be a gift at this point.

 

 

[RutgersJetFan]

On 11/29/2016 at 1:34 PM, Scott Dierking said:

And, I wasn't far off. Cespedes in at $110m for 4 years. Great job Sandy

To be fair, that news came from Boras.

[Scott Dierking]

11 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

To be fair, that news came from Boras.

Huh? I don't even think Boras is his agent.

My guess of the salary is on that I thought was fair to both sides. I certainly came armed with that I knew the Mets did not want to go 5 years. 

[RutgersJetFan]

1 minute ago, Scott Dierking said:

Huh? I don't even think Boras is his agent.

My guess of the salary is on that I thought was fair to both sides. I certainly came armed with that I knew the Mets did not want to go 5 years. 

Have you been living under a rock? Of course Boras is his agent. Who do you think did all the bitching in '15?

[RutgersJetFan]

2 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Have you been living under a rock? Of course Boras is his agent. Who do you think did all the bitching in '15?

Addendum: Whoops. Quoted the wrong post. That was in regards to the Harvey news.

[JetFanWithNOPSL2017]

Major personal coup today. Had a 20 weekday in promenade gold 211 last season and today was my select a seat access appt. Best it appeared I could do was move to the aisle.

Then 35 minutes before my time the only two seats in promenade gold ROW ONE opened up in 217. They almost went away about 8 minutes before but opened up again at the 2 minute warning and I got them locked up.

Call me Bob Eucker now

[RutgersJetFan]

Braves are looking to add Archer or Sale. Atlanta is going for it. Seems like they're trying to imitate the Cubs (good young lineup with veteran pitching). The NL East is gonna be a fun race, wouldn't shock me at all if Atlanta comes out on top over us and Washington. They played some great baseball from August on.

[JohnJ]

37 minutes ago, JetFanWithNOPSL2017 said:

Major personal coup today. Had a 20 weekday in promenade gold 211 last season and today was my select a seat access appt. Best it appeared I could do was move to the aisle.

Then 35 minutes before my time the only two seats in promenade gold ROW ONE opened up in 217. They almost went away about 8 minutes before but opened up again at the 2 minute warning and I got them locked up.

Call me Bob Eucker now

Nice place to watch a game from. Get any foul balls? What does that run you? If you don't mind me asking

[JetFanWithNOPSL2017]

Nice place to watch a game from. Get any foul balls? What does that run you? If you don't mind me asking

762 per seat. Averages about $38 per game. Foul balls are rare to occasional.

View is pretty much home plate with a small lean towards 3B

Row one is pretty much locked up by full season holders and those available to 20 game folks are extremely hard to find.

My previous seats were very good in that row 4 was the last row with a wall and WC seating behind so when folks stood in front we could lean against the wall w/o bothering people behind us.

Row 1 eliminates the standees blocking home plate issue entirely

[JohnJ]

15 minutes ago, JetFanWithNOPSL2017 said:

 

 

762 per seat. Averages about $38 per game. Foul balls are rare to occasional.

View is pretty much home plate with a small lean towards 3B

Row one is pretty much locked up by full season holders and those available to 20 game folks are extremely hard to find.

My previous seats were very good in that row 4 was the last row with a wall and WC seating behind so when folks stood in front we could lean against the wall w/o bothering people behind us.

Row 1 eliminates the standees blocking home plate issue entirely

 

 

The first row is a coup. Behind home first row is outstanding.

 

I'm thinking about looking into sections 328-330 for something similar. I like to see the dugout if not behind home.

[OH THE PAIN]

12 hours ago, JetFanWithNOPSL2017 said:

Major personal coup today. Had a 20 weekday in promenade gold 211 last season and today was my select a seat access appt. Best it appeared I could do was move to the aisle.

Then 35 minutes before my time the only two seats in promenade gold ROW ONE opened up in 217. They almost went away about 8 minutes before but opened up again at the 2 minute warning and I got them locked up.

Call me Bob Eucker now

I didn't know the Mets had 20 game plans in the Promenade . When did they start this ?

[JetFanWithNOPSL2017]

I didn't know the Mets had 20 game plans in the Promenade . When did they start this ?

Not sure. I got a 10 game plan in 2015. In 2016, the min plan was 20 games. That's when they had select a seat visits and I got 411 row 4 in front of the HC seating wall.

Those were great seats until I grabbed the only row one I saw yesterday

[OH THE PAIN]

9 hours ago, JetFanWithNOPSL2017 said:

 

 

Not sure. I got a 10 game plan in 2015. In 2016, the min plan was 20 games. That's when they had select a seat visits and I got 411 row 4 in front of the HC seating wall.

Those were great seats until I grabbed the only row one I saw yesterday

 

 

I love those seats right in front of the wall ; no riff raff behind you .

[Scott Dierking]

The Mets' top prospect for 2017 is 21-year-old SS Amed Rosario, according an organizational Top 10 list by Baseball America...

BA Rank    Player    Age    ETA
1    SS Amed Rosario    21    2017
2    1B Dominic Smith    21    2017
3    RHP Justin Dunn    21    2019
4    OF Demond Lindsay    19    2019
5    OF Brandon Nimmo    23    -
6    INF Gavin Cecchini    22    -
7    RHP Robert Gsellman    23    -
8    LHP Thomas Szapucki    20    2019
9    RHP Gabriel Ynoa    23    -
10    C Tomas Nido    22    2018

Nice to see Nido on this list. I wonder how much the FO thinks of him.

[RutgersJetFan]

31 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

The Mets' top prospect for 2017 is 21-year-old SS Amed Rosario, according an organizational Top 10 list by Baseball America...

BA Rank    Player    Age    ETA
1    SS Amed Rosario    21    2017
2    1B Dominic Smith    21    2017
3    RHP Justin Dunn    21    2019
4    OF Demond Lindsay    19    2019
5    OF Brandon Nimmo    23    -
6    INF Gavin Cecchini    22    -
7    RHP Robert Gsellman    23    -
8    LHP Thomas Szapucki    20    2019
9    RHP Gabriel Ynoa    23    -
10    C Tomas Nido    22    2018

Nice to see Nido on this list. I wonder how much the FO thinks of him.

I like that Dunn is already ranked 3.

[JetFanWithNOPSL2017]

Nice

Not sure tho why Gsellman who was arguably the best Met starting pitcher not named Syndergaard last September and who along with Lugo pretty much got them into a sort of postseason game is there but if he is only #6 then the first five guys must be dynamite

[JetFanWithNOPSL2017]

Nice

Not sure tho why Gsellman who was arguably the best Met starting pitcher not named Syndergaard last September and who along with Lugo pretty much got them into a sort of postseason game is there but if he is only #6 then the first five guys must be dynamite

Edit

#7 not #6

[RutgersJetFan]

Teams inquiring about Gsellman, Alderson saying no dice. Great to hear he's highly thought of, and glad to hear Sandy is playing it safe with the rotation.

[Scott Dierking]

9 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Teams inquiring about Gsellman, Alderson saying no dice. Great to hear he's highly thought of, and glad to hear Sandy is playing it safe with the rotation.

My guess is that they look to extend Syndergaard and DeGrom when the time comes, and fill in with youngsters elsewhere. Want to see what Wheeler gives this year

[RutgersJetFan]

7 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

My guess is that they look to extend Syndergaard and DeGrom when the time comes, and fill in with youngsters elsewhere. Want to see what Wheeler gives this year

Thor isn't a free agent until like 2022 I think.

[JohnJ]

Starting to look like d'Arnaud is getting another chance to rebuild himself, and adding a Catcher may be a longshot.  He looked lost last year, but the latter part of '15 is what they're hopeful for.

Sandy did say that relatively around MLB they're in fair shape, that there's few Catchers that are top players. And that d'Arnaud is working with a coach, and K. Long, to pull himself together.

 

If d'Arnaud can somehow get his ass back to what he was during that time in '15 we'd be in pretty good shape. It would a tremendous boost really.

[RutgersJetFan]

21 minutes ago, JohnJ said:

Starting to look like d'Arnaud is getting another chance to rebuild himself, and adding a Catcher may be a longshot.  He looked lost last year, but the latter part of '15 is what they're hopeful for.

Sandy did say that relatively around MLB they're in fair shape, that there's few Catchers that are top players. And that d'Arnaud is working with a coach, and K. Long, to pull himself together.

 

If d'Arnaud can somehow get his ass back to what he was during that time in '15 we'd be in pretty good shape. It would a tremendous boost really.

My guess is that since they avoided arbitration with Rivera for very cheap, they think it's worth the gamble to see if he can come around, evaluate how Nido performs in the meantime given the 2016 he had, and if all else fails they can make a deadline deal over the summer. I would have preferred better value than a reliever (like a known catcher) for Bruce given what we had to trade for him, but whatever. We got Yo back and that's really all that matters.

[Scott Dierking]

48 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Thor isn't a free agent until like 2022 I think.

Probably right, but if he has 2 more years like this, and shows the ability to stay healthy, I would buy him out of arbitration years and have a slurry that is a bargain.

He looks to be the staff ace of the future

[JohnJ]

51 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

My guess is that since they avoided arbitration with Rivera for very cheap, they think it's worth the gamble to see if he can come around, evaluate how Nido performs in the meantime given the 2016 he had, and if all else fails they can make a deadline deal over the summer. I would have preferred better value than a reliever (like a known catcher) for Bruce given what we had to trade for him, but whatever. We got Yo back and that's really all that matters.

Yeah, once that happened with Rivera it looked like that was the direction they would take.

 

I was hopeful they would make a splash with another player, but it's not likely at this point. Unless Sandy gets an offer he can't refuse.

 

Sounds like Conforto, Nimmo and the rest will be counted on this season

 

Thanks to the schmucks Familia and Mejia our options have been more limited. 

 

But Sandy is patient and that's a good thing. Moves can be made down the road....

[RutgersJetFan]

Wow. Mets asked about Wade Davis and the Royals wanted Rosario in return. Sandy bucked, Cubs called and KC took Soler. I am liking that teams are trying to take us to the cleaners and Sandy is telling them to **** off. That would have been a terrible deal.