Savage69 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Don't pay him, let him walk. I say this with loving the player and what he has done for the team. Some team is going to over pay him big time because they are desperate and are near last in stopping the run (See Cleveland). It's just not worth it to pay interior dlineman unless they can do it all. How would you rate Snacks compared to say Ted Washington a great run stopper of his time?? Also Fergy was another guy that was a pretty good NT.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 How would you rate Snacks compared to say Ted Washington a great run stopper of his time?? Also Fergy was another guy that was a pretty good NT.. Agreed, Ferguson was a very underrated player especially because he did not have the bulk of others that played that spot. Don't know how i would rate Snacks vs Washington, I'll just be very surprised if some team does not offer him a really big deal that we should not match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Agreed, Ferguson was a very underrated player especially because he did not have the bulk of others that played that spot. Don't know how i would rate Snacks vs Washington, I'll just be very surprised if some team does not offer him a really big deal that we should not match. What would you say is the top figure you would pay Snacks to stay a Jet?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 What would you say is the top figure you would pay Snacks to stay a Jet?? Snacks is getting six million per year- that's what top defensive tackles command these days. ( Dan Williams got 6 million from the Raiders per year- ) If the Jets aren't willing to pay that , you can bet the Giants will be glad to pay him that much. If the Jets let Snacks leave, they might be able to sign Terrance Knighton ( pork chop) for 5 million per. ( teams were worried about his weight long term) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Snacks is getting six million per year- that's what top defensive tackles command these days. ( Dan Williams got 6 million from the Raiders per year- ) If the Jets let Snacks leave, they might be able to sign Terrance Knighton ( pork chop) for 5 million per. ( teams were worried about his weight long term) Pork Chop will be 30 in July and is less then 300 pounds I rather have 27 year old 350 pound Snacks at 6 million.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Raideraholic Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Pork Chop will be 30 in July and is less then 300 pounds I rather have 27 year old 350 pound Snacks at 6 million.. Terrance Knighton has never been under 300 pounds in his life. He will be 30 next season, but stands 6'3 354 . His age doesn't matter as a pure run stuffer can play a longtime in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Unless its in cookies, I don't think so. Pay him, Mo, Sheldon, and Williams? Yup....Either Mo or Richardson are gonna go. Ray Lucas is one of the few media guys out there I like when it comes to the Jets and he thinks if the jets don't resign someone will be bringing a ton of cash for Mr. Snacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Yup....Either Mo or Richardson are gonna go. Ray Lucas is one of the few media guys out there I like when it comes to the Jets and he thinks if the jets don't resign someone will be bringing a ton of cash for Mr. Snacks How are the Jets getting cap relief trading Sheldon Richardson( little over 3 million). Keeping Snacks ( 6 million per) and M Wilkerson ( 16 million franchise tag). yes they can sign Wilkerson long term , but it still isn't coming anywhere close to 3 million for Wilkerson.( that Sheldon Richardson getting) . The Jets want to be players in Fa. And the only way is to try and trade M Wilkerson. Use that money to address other areas, as Jet still would have a potent defense line without Wilkerson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 How are the Jets getting cap relief trading Sheldon Richardson( little over 3 million). Keeping Snacks ( 6 million per) and M Wilkerson ( 16 million franchise tag). yes they can sign Wilkerson long term , but it still isn't coming anywhere close to 3 million for Wilkerson.( that Sheldon Richardson getting) . The Jets want to be players in Fa. And the only way is to try and trade M Wilkerson. Use that money to address other areas, as Jet still would have a potent defense line without Wilkerson. unfortunately agree.. With all their own of their own FAs to either lock up or replace (Fitz, Ivory, Powell, Colon, Snacks, Davis, Pace) the only ways the Jets have adequate money to fill those holes AND improve their team is to trade Wilk and use that $15M elsewhere. Get Snacks back and keep the D-line a strength, and use Wilk's money at LB or OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 unfortunately agree.. With all their own of their own FAs to either lock up or replace (Fitz, Ivory, Powell, Colon, Snacks, Davis, Pace) the only ways the Jets have adequate money to fill those holes AND improve their team is to trade Wilk and use that $15M elsewhere. Get Snacks back and keep the D-line a strength, and use Wilk's money at LB or OL. +1 That's what Brady makes next season.. LOL http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-england-patriots/tom-brady/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Snacks is getting six million per year- that's what top defensive tackles command these days. ( Dan Williams got 6 million from the Raiders per year- ) If the Jets aren't willing to pay that , you can bet the Giants will be glad to pay him that much. If the Jets let Snacks leave, they might be able to sign Terrance Knighton ( pork chop) for 5 million per. ( teams were worried about his weight long term) 6 mill is being conservative if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 6 mill is being conservative if you ask me. As great as Snacks is against the run, he's still one dimensional player( doesn't offer anything as a pass rush). Snacks is basically a two down player, and I think 6 million per year is the number he gets,( don't see him getting much more than that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 As great as Snacks is against the run, he's still one dimensional player( doesn't offer anything as a pass rush). Snacks is basically a two down player, and I think 6 million per year is the number he gets,( don't see him getting much more than that). I know that, you know that, most of the world knows that but you should know by now that some dumb ass gm will cave and get in a bidding war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I like Snacks, but can he carry Ropati?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I'm going to throw a fit if we don't lock up Snacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Run stuffers in this NFL are about as important as having a starting pitcher on a hockey team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Run stuffers in this NFL are about as important as having a starting pitcher on a hockey team. Any great defense starts with their ability to stop the run first. You want to make a team one dimensional on offense . There is anything more dishearten than to see your defense know it's a run , and still get gashed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Any great defense starts with their ability to stop the run first. You want to make a team one dimensional on offense . There is anything more dishearten than to see your defense know it's a run , and still get gashed . Yes there is. It's when you know the opposing QB is going to throw the ball 50 times and you still can't stop him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 You guys are crazy. Wilkerson is MILES better than Harrison. Wait and see what each of them gets when they get new contracts. The numbers won't be close. Wilk is arguably one of the 25 best players in the entire league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 You guys are crazy. Wilkerson is MILES better than Harrison. Wait and see what each of them gets when they get new contracts. The numbers won't be close. Wilk is arguably one of the 25 best players in the entire league. And Pennington was better then Brady...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Wilk is arguably one of the 25 best players in the entire league. Put down the green kool aide, he isn't even in the top 70, let alone the top 25. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Top_100_Players_of_2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Put down the green kool aide, he isn't even in the top 70, let alone the top 25. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Top_100_Players_of_2015 psssst that was last year lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 You guys are crazy. Wilkerson is MILES better than Harrison. Wait and see what each of them gets when they get new contracts. The numbers won't be close. Wilk is arguably one of the 25 best players in the entire league. 2 totally different line positions and pay scales, but Snacks makes it easier for others to get sacks.. Would I rather have Snacks at 6 million then what Mo is looking for?14-16?? Absolutely and twice on Sunday.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 You guys are crazy. Wilkerson is MILES better than Harrison. Wait and see what each of them gets when they get new contracts. The numbers won't be close. Wilk is arguably one of the 25 best players in the entire league. No one doubts that ( Snacks is getting 6 million per year, Wilkerson 13-16 million per year) , but when you have limited cap space(no where close to what you had last year), and some holes to fill. ( Rb's, Qb, outside lb, and offense lineman) Investing 16 million per year( franchise tag ) in an area( defense line that is still a strength) might limit what you can do in other areas.( Revis is counting how much on next year cap) The Jets are losing Snacks or Wilkerson, as they they can only keep one. Trading Sheldon Richardson( 3 million plus) doesn't do anything for the Jets cap- as Snacks should be 6 million and Wilkerson 13-16 million per year minus Sheldon 3 million. The Jets don't sign Snacks for peanuts- 6 million per year in comparison to What Wilkerson going to get. Than whose going to play Nt for the Jets. NT is very physical and demanding position. ( Lose the premier run stuffer in the NFL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Run stuffers in this NFL are about as important as having a starting pitcher on a hockey team. 3-4 nose tackles need to be able to, first and foremost, do a particular job exceptionally well. that is occupy blockers and stuff runs up the middle. if your 3-4 nose tackle can dominate in that aspect then you let your other guys worry about creating qb pressure. Snacks is great at what he does and he is a valuable asset to this team. He is the guy we need to keep. Wilkerson needs to be a sign and trade type player. Williams lets the loss of wilkerson become so much easier to stomach. Our defense will still be good without wilkerson. in todays NFL you need to score points, gobs and gobs of points. We dont have the offensive luxury to be able to sign ANOTHER qb-level contract on a defensive player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 No one doubts that ( Snacks is getting 6 million per year, Wilkerson 13-16 million per year) , but when you have limited cap space(no where close to what you had last year), and some holes to fill. ( Rb's, Qb, outside lb, and offense lineman) Investing 16 million per year( franchise tag ) in an area( defense line that is still a strength) might limit what you can do in other areas.( Revis is counting how much on next year cap) The Jets are losing Snacks or Wilkerson, as they they can only keep one. Trading Sheldon Richardson( 3 million plus) doesn't do anything for the Jets cap- as Snacks should be 6 million and Wilkerson 13-16 million per year minus Sheldon 3 million. The Jets don't sign Snacks for peanuts- 6 million per year in comparison to What Wilkerson going to get. Than whose going to play Nt for the Jets. NT is very physical and demanding position. ( Lose the premier run stuffer in the NFL) Peanuts are a snack. He might go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Keep Snacks trade Mo. The player to trade is Sheldumn "ass" Richardson before he gets the Josh Gordon suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Snacks is our most important Free Agent. Even more so than even Wilk or Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 The player to trade is Sheldumn "ass" Richardson before he gets the Josh Gordon suspension. Good luck getting anything more than a mid-round pick for him right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Good luck getting anything more than a mid-round pick for him right now. And no cap relief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Bowles' favorites (in order): Gladys Knight Snacks Gladys Knight Snacks Linda Ronstadt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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