The Troll Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Guess you've never heard of Doug Brien, huh? No, I've heard of the scapegoat for Herman Edwards' and Chad Pennington's utter failure. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 9 hours ago, Beerfish said: The more I watch the NFL the more I feel there is no 'formula' to winning. Teams win with offense, teams win with defense teams win with hof Qb's teams win with past it or hold the fort QB's. - Be healthy - Get hot at the right time - Generate turnovers and do not turn it over (It also really helps to have that good reg season record so you can play one less game or get that one home filed game you need in the playoffs.) You argument does not hold up to even cursory analysis/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 4 hours ago, Larz said: they key is not having a dominant run defense, but having a scary pass rush the jets have been building an awesome 1945 era defense, that has to change WRONG, stopping the run is equally important to stopping the run because I believe so. My gut felt and my eyes saw that the Panthers couldnt run yesterday, what does that tell you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 28 minutes ago, The Troll said: No, I've heard of the scapegoat for Herman Edwards' and Chad Pennington's utter failure. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He does his job they go to the AFC championship, and probably the super bowl. Brien let down Chad, Herm too, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 23 minutes ago, gEYno said: He does his job they go to the AFC championship, and probably the super bowl. Brien let down Chad, Herm too, really. This is a crazy argument. The fact is, Chad, and the Jets offense scored a grand total of 3 points in that game. THREE. Chad always had problems with top defenses. In fact, he was owned most of the time and the Pittsburgh playoff game was no exception. So even if they had gotten by Pittsburgh living on Big Ben's mistakes and a special teams blunder, they would have been owned in the AFC Championship. They simply were not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 He does his job they go to the AFC championship, and probably the super bowl. Brien let down Chad, Herm too, really. Jets offensive points in that game: Doug Brien - 3 Chad Pennington- 0 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 11 hours ago, Mainejet said: This is a crazy argument. The fact is, Chad, and the Jets offense scored a grand total of 3 points in that game. THREE. Chad always had problems with top defenses. In fact, he was owned most of the time and the Pittsburgh playoff game was no exception. So even if they had gotten by Pittsburgh living on Big Ben's mistakes and a special teams blunder, they would have been owned in the AFC Championship. They simply were not good enough. They were good enough to be in position to win. #justsaying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 10 hours ago, The Troll said: Jets offensive points in that game: Doug Brien - 3 Chad Pennington- 0 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He got them in position to win the game. It was a defensive game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Sarcasm is a hell of a drug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 23 minutes ago, gEYno said: They were good enough to be in position to win. #justsaying No thanks to CHAD. The Colts 41-0 game put us all in a position we thought we had a winner. Well, we didnt. He was unstable and hurt half his career. never won more than 10 games with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Just now, southparkcpa said: No thanks to CHAD. The Colts 41-0 game put us all in a position we thought we had a winner. Well, we didnt. He was unstable and hurt half his career. never won more than 10 games with us. And that was all blamed on him... Unfairly. He was going up against Tom Brady and with not even half the defense. Please. Give Chad that defense and Bill Bellicheck and maybe even a dash of spygate, we'd be talking hall of fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 minute ago, gEYno said: And that was all blamed on him... Unfairly. He was going up against Tom Brady and with not even half the defense. Please. Give Chad that defense and Bill Bellicheck and maybe even a dash of spygate, we'd be talking hall of fame. I just spit out my coffee. HOF players arent injured 50 percent of their career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 25 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Sarcasm is a hell of a drug Holy sh*t people are still feeding EY the rock on this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 11 hours ago, The Troll said: Jets offensive points in that game: Doug Brien - 3 Chad Pennington- 0 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk FGs don't get credited to the offense? who got him in FG range? and do we forget Chad was playing w/ a torn rotator cuff in his throwing shoulder against the top ranked D on the road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 12 hours ago, johnnysd said: You argument does not hold up to even cursory analysis/ Yeah it does. Do I have to add a neener neener neener to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 41 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Holy sh*t people are still feeding EY the rock on this one? He is getting 3 points for a lay up . Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 42 minutes ago, nyjunc said: FGs don't get credited to the offense? who got him in FG range? and do we forget Chad was playing w/ a torn rotator cuff in his throwing shoulder against the top ranked D on the road? Preach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 hour ago, southparkcpa said: I just spit out my coffee. HOF players arent injured 50 percent of their career. Maybe if he was on a real team, that cared about protecting the QB, he wouldn't have been exposed to so many vicious hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I'm loving EY in this thread. LMAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 13 hours ago, gEYno said: He does his job they go to the AFC championship, and probably the super bowl. Brien let down Chad, Herm too, really. I still fully blame Herm Edwards. The very week before Marty 'no balls' Schottenheimer pulled the same stunt. The very moment they were within the outer range of their ace FG kicker he layed on the ball and was content with a relatively long FG after they had steam rolled. Kaeding missed and we ended up winning the game. so a week later we are steam rolling down the filed and Herm does the same thing, the collar gets tight lets try a 40 plus yarder because we are fraid to either try and score or get closer. Then Brien missed. coaches with no balls or killer instinct get what they deserve, one reason that shotty senior always failed after some great reg seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I still fully blame Herm Edwards. The very week before Marty 'no balls' Schottenheimer pulled the same stunt. The very moment they were within the outer range of their ace FG kicker he layed on the ball and was content with a relatively long FG after they had steam rolled. Kaeding missed and we ended up winning the game. so a week later we are steam rolling down the filed and Herm does the same thing, the collar gets tight lets try a 40 plus yarder because we are fraid to either try and score or get closer. Then Brien missed. coaches with no balls or killer instinct get what they deserve, one reason that shotty senior always failed after some great reg seasons. Kicker has to make the kick. he missed a 47 yarder moments earlier by inches, we got 4 yards closer. he has to make it, no excuses. By the way, a coach w/ no balls just won the SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I still fully blame Herm Edwards. The very week before Marty 'no balls' Schottenheimer pulled the same stunt. The very moment they were within the outer range of their ace FG kicker he layed on the ball and was content with a relatively long FG after they had steam rolled. Kaeding missed and we ended up winning the game. so a week later we are steam rolling down the filed and Herm does the same thing, the collar gets tight lets try a 40 plus yarder because we are fraid to either try and score or get closer. Then Brien missed. coaches with no balls or killer instinct get what they deserve, one reason that shotty senior always failed after some great reg seasons. How'd you feel about Tom Coughlin's killer instinct that gave us the opportunity to get back in the game this year when they went for it on 4th down. He kicks the FG there, we are pretty much finished. Killer instinct is great until we turn the ball over or take a sack or whatever. He's paid to make those kicks. Herm was playing the percentages and relying on his guy. Sucks that trust and faith in the kicker was Chad and Herm's undoing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 30 minutes ago, sourceworx said: I'm loving EY in this thread. LMAO. So you agree that we could have won a Superbowl (or MORE!) with Chad OR Sanchez. SOJ blew it for these guys. You're a smart fan, not one of these morons who listens to the media for their opinions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 23 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: It's the exception not the rule but we're a lot closer to being a team built like Denver than a team built around a star QB. If we draft Jaylon Smith, and he fully recovers, we might have a shot at being what Denver was this year. You always could win without a great QB. This isn't about absolutes, it's about opportunity. The best way to consistently makes the playoffs = Top tier QB Obviously the only way to win a SB is to make the playoffs The more opportunities you have in the playoffs, the better the chance of winning one. Not to mention that having a great QB helps you win games in the playoffs .. This changes little, in fact Denver was so close to not even making the SB, 1) If Idiot Belichick takes the ball against the Jets, they play the AFCC in NE and likely lose 2) If Gostkowski doesn't miss the XP NE likely wins the AFCC (NE had all momentum) Finally Denvers offense did everything in it's power to give that game up, Cam Newton and company were simply feeling more charitable. Carolina was who we thought they were all along. Pretenders. Seattle would've thrashed Denver again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, gEYno said: How'd you feel about Tom Coughlin's killer instinct that gave us the opportunity to get back in the game this year when they went for it on 4th down. He kicks the FG there, we are pretty much finished. Killer instinct is great until we turn the ball over or take a sack or whatever. He's paid to make those kicks. Herm was playing the percentages and relying on his guy. Sucks that trust and faith in the kicker was Chad and Herm's undoing. Who said anything about going for it on 4th down? Team a is just steamrolling the ball down the filed against team B. Team A gets within the outer ranger of their kickers fg range and suddenly go into lay down mode the guy misses the kick. As I said this is especially relevant when the very week before your team won soley because the other coach lost his nerve. It's a weak minded cop put move to put it all on your fg kicker rather than trying to make the kick as easy as possible. Todays comfort range of 50 yards for kickers is not the same as the range for kickers at that time. You play...tooooo win .....the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 yea! Chaddy Cakes is in the room! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Maybe if he was on a real team, that cared about protecting the QB, he wouldn't have been exposed to so many vicious hits. Stop it, the guy was injury prone, end of story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I still fully blame Herm Edwards. The very week before Marty 'no balls' Schottenheimer pulled the same stunt. The very moment they were within the outer range of their ace FG kicker he layed on the ball and was content with a relatively long FG after they had steam rolled. Kaeding missed and we ended up winning the game. so a week later we are steam rolling down the filed and Herm does the same thing, the collar gets tight lets try a 40 plus yarder because we are fraid to either try and score or get closer. Then Brien missed. coaches with no balls or killer instinct get what they deserve, one reason that shotty senior always failed after some great reg seasons. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Omg did I unwittingly stumble into a Penningtology thread? How delicious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Rexorcism said: Stop it, the guy was injury prone, end of story... Prone to injury because we had guys like Adrian Clarke, who couldn't block you on facebook, let alone a football field, planning offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 ahh just trolling, not as fun for me. Someone tag me if letsgojets appears and we get the real thing instead of Ey's best immpression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Who said anything about going for it on 4th down? Team a is just steamrolling the ball down the filed against team B. Team A gets within the outer ranger of their kickers fg range and suddenly go into lay down mode the guy misses the kick. As I said this is especially relevant when the very week before your team won soley because the other coach lost his nerve. It's a weak minded cop put move to put it all on your fg kicker rather than trying to make the kick as easy as possible. Todays comfort range of 50 yards for kickers is not the same as the range for kickers at that time. You play...tooooo win .....the game. You pay your kicker to make these kicks. Drives stall. He had two shots at it and blew it. How anyone can let this guy off the hook is beyond me. He was put in a position to win it for the Jets. He blew it. Then, we drafted another kicker in the 2nd round because of it. SOJ x eleventy billion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 hour ago, gEYno said: Maybe if he was on a real team, that cared about protecting the QB, he wouldn't have been exposed to so many vicious hits. Maybe if I had a 12 inch tool I'd be in the movies. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: Maybe if I had a 12 inch tool I'd be in the movies. ? Surrounding your QB with talent is far less the unicorn than your mythical giant wang. Look, Denver just did it. Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Prone to injury because we had guys like Adrian Clarke, who couldn't block you on facebook, let alone a football field, planning offensive line. Stop it, all QB's r gonna get hit, Even Tom Brady got beat the hell up this year, A QB has to be able to get up and keep going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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