Nolder Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Under da sea! Under da sea! Players 1. JiF 2.Brett 3, Ape 4.80 5. Leelou 6. Verbal 7. CTM 8. Spoot 9. crush 10. jet engine 1 11. Pac 12. AVM Rules 1) Do not post/quote or otherwise communicate your role PM. 2) You may claim your role and your character. 3) Do not talk about this game outside the game thread unless instructed to do so. 4) Self voting and editing is allowed. No lynch is also allowed. 5) This is a Hammer game, majority rules, deadlines will be enforced. If you forget to submit a night action you lose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 PMs going out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Sup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Game is open. All PMs are out. With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 DT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Vote Jif never been happier to lynch last games mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 vote Lizzie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Great opening scene. A lot to mull over here before voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 10 minutes ago, Pac said: Great opening scene. A lot to mull over here before voting. I took it as "under da sea" means that the scum team is birds, which means they have a post restriction of only "fly by" posting, which means we should lynch the low count posters like I said to last game. still haven't figured out what the 2nd "under da sea" means though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 Votecount Jif - Cash (1) With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline: Friday 12PM PST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Leaning town on Ape, JiF, Verb Dont feel great about Smash, but I think he's just being Smash. CTM seems scummy so far, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 41 minutes ago, AVM said: Dont feel great about Smash, but I think he's just being Smash. Who??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Ok.. so we're going to get started quickly here. I just got a role I've never had before and I'm not exactly sure how to play this. I am a paranoid gun owner. Meaning, anyone that targets me at night dies. ANYONE. The fish i am is a puffer fish (which fits perfectly) I can however be lynched safely. I am claiming because I do not want a cop to target me, he will die. I had originally thought i should claim Miller to prevent the cop target and hopefully encourage a scum target, but I asked the mod and wouldn't give me a safe fish to claim as a miller (what if i picked one someone else had?) and the puffer fish just didn't make sense like it did with my actual role. So there it is, the role is incredible powerful at end game, but you'll have to trust me to get there. I suggest you judge my play on the merit of my play alone. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Paranoid_Gun_Owner Quote Paranoid Gun Owner Paranoid Gun Owner Aliases: Army Veteran Granny Alignment: Pro-town Role type: Killing Choice: none The Paranoid Gun Owner passively (and involuntarily) kills anyone who targets it during the Night. Paranoid Gun Owner is very commonly abbreviated as PGO. Controversially, it has also been called Army Veteran. Paranoid Gun Owners are more often Town than scum. Variation The Paranoid Gun Owner shares some similarities with a Bomb. Uncommonly, a Paranoid Gun Owner is also Bulletproof (they shoot first before they're shot). Use and Power The Paranoid Gun Owner is a very swingy role, as in addition to killing the Mafia if they target him, it will indiscriminately kill Cops, Doctors, etc. As a general rule, PGO is an anti-Town role because it is more likely to kill Town power roles than scum in all cases except when there are no other Town power roles (in which case it is functionally a Bomb). When town, it can be considered a Negative Utility Since the PGO is not informed of who they have killed, this can also obscure how many actual killing roles are present in the game. Note that whatever powers were used on the PGO still take effect -- thus, if the Mafia choose to kill the PGO, the PGO will still die along with the Mafia performing the kill. Mafia-aligned PGOs are not common because they can potentially gambit to draw in Town power roles (i.e. claim Cop to draw in Doctors and Trackers), thus greatly increasing the Mafia's death output. PGO is generally only used as a somewhat bastard role in Role Madness games (where in the worst case they can kill many players at once), or in games where they fit flavor. Play Advice The ideal play for a PGO is to get targeted by the Mafia, while not being targeted by any Town power roles. However, safer play is to claim directly -- this keeps other Town power roles safe, but also ensures the Mafia will not target you. Note that by claiming, you are opening yourself up to potentially being policy lynched at some point during the game. A very risky strategy is to hint at a power role, causing the scum totarget you, and, as a 1 for 1 trade with scum is in the town's favor, you will have helped the town.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Vote LK If you don't know, now you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 2 hours ago, The Crusher said: vote Lizzie bah, ninja'd I will say, his not playing might be the most helpful thing he can do for town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 55 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: bah, ninja'd I will say, his not playing might be the most helpful thing he can do for humanity Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 59 minutes ago, CTM said: Ok.. so we're going to get started quickly here. I just got a role I've never had before and I'm not exactly sure how to play this. I am a paranoid gun owner. Meaning, anyone that targets me at night dies. ANYONE. The fish i am is a puffer fish (which fits perfectly) I can however be lynched safely. I am claiming because I do not want a cop to target me, he will die. I had originally thought i should claim Miller to prevent the cop target and hopefully encourage a scum target, but I asked the mod and wouldn't give me a safe fish to claim as a miller (what if i picked one someone else had?) and the puffer fish just didn't make sense like it did with my actual role. So there it is, the role is incredible powerful at end game, but you'll have to trust me to get there. I suggest you judge my play on the merit of my play alone. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Paranoid_Gun_Owner I wish Smash was playing to call bullshit on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: I wish Smash was playing to call bullsh*t on this. that's the first thing i thought too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 hour ago, CTM said: Ok.. so we're going to get started quickly here. I just got a role I've never had before and I'm not exactly sure how to play this. I am a paranoid gun owner. Meaning, anyone that targets me at night dies. ANYONE. The fish i am is a puffer fish (which fits perfectly) I can however be lynched safely. I am claiming because I do not want a cop to target me, he will die. I had originally thought i should claim Miller to prevent the cop target and hopefully encourage a scum target, but I asked the mod and wouldn't give me a safe fish to claim as a miller (what if i picked one someone else had?) and the puffer fish just didn't make sense like it did with my actual role. So there it is, the role is incredible powerful at end game, but you'll have to trust me to get there. I suggest you judge my play on the merit of my play alone. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Paranoid_Gun_Owner ^^ what an ass hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 14 minutes ago, Pac said: ^^ what an ass hole takes one to know one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 minute ago, CTM said: takes one to know one? I read taste one to know one. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, CTM said: takes one to know one? there were 50 ways you could have played if true. You chose the lamest. Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 13 minutes ago, Pac said: there were 50 ways you could have played if true. You chose the lamest. Congrats. seriously name some.. My primary concern was avoiding killing the cop, wasn't sure of a good way to do that besides miller.. I do admit however to always wanting to role reveal at the start of a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, CTM said: seriously name some.. My primary concern was avoiding killing the cop, wasn't sure of a good way to do that besides miller.. I do admit however to always wanting to role reveal at the start of a game no guarantee there is a cop... In that scenario I would have much rather taken my chances a getting shot by scum. you've basically given convenient excuses for why no one should target you at night while giving you a 1 way ticket to end game - complete with a "trust me" thrown in for good measure. it's so disgusting I can't stand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 on another note I'm going to show why I'm best at this game. Jet Engine = scum. If I'm proven right I may tell you how I put this together before his 1st post. Vote Jet Engenitalia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, Pac said: no guarantee there is a cop... In that scenario I would have much rather taken my chances a getting shot by scum. you've basically given convenient excuses for why no one should target you at night while giving you a 1 way ticket to end game - complete with a "trust me" thrown in for good measure. it's so disgusting I can't stand it. well that's why i wanted to claim miller and yeah, nobody shoudl target me, if my play earns a lynch, then lynch me. It's no different then last game when we lost our only investigative role on N1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 22 minutes ago, CTM said: seriously name some.. My primary concern was avoiding killing the cop, wasn't sure of a good way to do that besides miller.. I do admit however to always wanting to role reveal at the start of a game eh, your ego drove you to assume you're a big enough threat that a cop would waste a viewing on you... what a putz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, CTM said: well that's why i wanted to claim miller and yeah, nobody shoudl target me, if my play earns a lynch, then lynch me. It's no different then last game when we lost our only investigative role on N1 nobody target me = look how townie i am = express ticket to end game thanks for slamming us in the face with a wifom in the first 2 pages... you should have hinted cop or some sh*t, or used your power role meta, and tried to draw a scum NK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Well, **** this... I quit. I'll be PMing you all shortly. Then I may rejoin. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 11 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: eh, your ego drove you to assume you're a big enough threat that a cop would waste a viewing on you... what a putz Nonsense, if I'm a threat or not a threat the odds of cop or scum targeting me is the same. To me killing the cop (i don't die) is more costly than taking out 1 scum (i die too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: nobody target me = look how townie i am = express ticket to end game thanks for slamming us in the face with a wifom in the first 2 pages... you should have hinted cop or some sh*t, or used your power role meta, and tried to draw a scum NK if i hint cop i could draw the actual cop to look at me. I considered that. Power role meta is easily and often confused with Scum meta.. but as I've told you i don't believe I have meta as I try and mix up play regardless of alignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 unvote vote CTM not totally sure how to play this, but I think this is the best bet. If he stays alive it's an express ticket to end game which is a great gambit, and it'll just be the focal point of every day which detracts from finding other scum. I also don't know why he would go on the Mafia wiki to read/copy paste his role if Nolderp already gave it to him. It's more likely that he was browsing through different roles, found one he thought could work, and is going for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Just now, CTM said: Nonsense, if I'm a threat or not a threat the odds of cop or scum targeting me is the same. To me killing the cop is more costly than taking out 1 scum (while i die too) That's not true, let's assume you are town. The odds of cop targeting you are 1 in 11, assuming the cop wouldn't target himself. The odds of scum targeting you are 1 in probably 9, assuming there are 3 scum that won't target themselves. Lets also imagine a scenario where JIF, 80, Spoot, Jet Engine are all townies with you. They are not getting NK'ed before you. That puts you at 1 in about 5. You should have tried to draw the NK. Now you're useless, and you should die for the flawed logic and butt breath. Vote CTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, CTM said: if i hint cop i could draw the actual cop to look at me. I considered that. Power role meta is easily and often confused with Scum meta.. but as I've told you i don't believe I have meta as I try and mix up play regardless of alignment. You usually crater on me when you have a town power role, to avoid NK. Same basic concept as what Smash claimed he was doing last game with you. Anyway, you said anyone that targets you dies, but let's say they shoot you... do you die too? Edit: never mind, just saw that you answered this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 53 minutes ago, CTM said: seriously name some.. My primary concern was avoiding killing the cop, wasn't sure of a good way to do that besides miller.. I do admit however to always wanting to role reveal at the start of a game Like a pervert flashing in public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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