afosomf Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 David J. Chao, MD @ProFootballDoc 15m15 minutes ago David J. Chao, MD Retweeted The NFL Advisory I'm a medical expert (not draft expert), but at this point #JaylonSmith is more likely a Day 3 pick than Day 1 pick. David J. Chao, MD added, The NFL Advisory @TheNFLAdvisory Jaylon Smith is a Top 5 pure talent in this draft; hope he can get back to 100% soon. If falls to Rd2 can=huge steal https://twitter.com/profootballdoc/status/703011547816198144 … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 Keep in mind Dr Chou is correct 95% of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, afosomf said: Keep in mind Dr Chou is correct 95% of time 60% of the time, he's right every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 David J. Chao, MD @ProFootballDoc 43m43 minutes ago #JaylonSmith Combine physical is Friday. Will need EMG/NCV to test nerve. Likely to defer full knee exam until Medical Re-Checks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 This guy hasn't examined him, didn't do his surgery, and watched a video to make a "diagnosis". He may be right, but he's not really speaking from a knowledgeable basis of this particular case. Every injury is different because every body is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Just now, CrazyCarl40 said: This guy hasn't examined him, didn't do his surgery, and watched a video to make a "diagnosis". He may be right, but he's not really speaking from a knowledgeable basis of this particular case. Every injury is different because every body is different. I think the msg is clear Mr.40... his injury was significant. That's the msg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 Just now, CrazyCarl40 said: This guy hasn't examined him, didn't do his surgery, and watched a video to make a "diagnosis". He may be right, but he's not really speaking from a knowledgeable basis of this particular case. Every injury is different because every body is different. the dude does this for a living, and he predicts injuries via videotape and he is spot on 95% of time, he is a weekly guest on NFL sirius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 13 minutes ago, Paradis said: I think the msg is clear Mr.40... his injury was significant. That's the msg. No one is saying it isn't. I'm not disputing that at all. 12 minutes ago, afosomf said: the dude does this for a living, and he predicts injuries via videotape and he is spot on 95% of time, he is a weekly guest on NFL sirius None of that holds any water with me. Until it's from someone who actually has seen Jaylon or examined him, it doesn't matter. This is one guys opinion, and while it may be a highly respected one, he's just not in the know about it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 As much as I like to break balls about Notre Dame, I'd feel pretty bummed for Smith if he never gets it back together. What an awful way to go out if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 10 hours ago, T0mShane said: As much as I like to break balls about Notre Dame, I'd feel pretty bummed for Smith if he never gets it back together. What an awful way to go out if true. Probably their best recruit they have had in last 20 yrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Well that sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 14 hours ago, T0mShane said: As much as I like to break balls about Notre Dame, I'd feel pretty bummed for Smith if he never gets it back together. What an awful way to go out if true. True that...did the kid at least graduate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 14 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: No one is saying it isn't. I'm not disputing that at all. None of that holds any water with me. Until it's from someone who actually has seen Jaylon or examined him, it doesn't matter. This is one guys opinion, and while it may be a highly respected one, he's just not in the know about it right now. it's understandable that you don't want to hear bad news about a player you like but it's not great dude. Anyone with a DVR can see his leg exploded on national Tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 #NotreDame LB Jaylon Smith said knee has no nerve damage. Torn ACL, LCL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reported that during medical evaluations at the combine, it was discovered that Smith had nerve issues in his ankle and knee, and "teams believe he's out for 2016 -- at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I feel INCREDIBLY bad for the kid. I also feel vindicated in having been correct that NO WAY you use a 1st round pick on a speed LBer who was THAT SIGNIFICANTLY injured to his knee despite how ALL-WORLD Top 5 pick Blue Chip of a Footballer he was prior to such devastating injury - at the time of the discussion, it was assumed he'd "possibly miss time until week 10 of his rookie season." IIRC it was in the initial Mel Kiper Mock draft Thread. per Rotoworld: NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports Norte Dame LB Jaylon Smith is expected to miss the entire 2016 season. It rules him out as a first-round pick. Smith is dealing with nerve damage in his knee/ankle. He's expected to redshirt as a rookie, but might never make a full recovery. A top-ten talent, Smith led Notre Dame in tackles the last two seasons. Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter Feb 26 - 5:54 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 3 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: #NotreDame LB Jaylon Smith said knee has no nerve damage. Torn ACL, LCL dr chou knows his sh*t mon, he predicted this early on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Just now, afosomf said: dr chou knows his sh*t mon, he predicted this early on We'll see what happens in April. He's got two months to heal up. There still isn't a report from an actual doctor who examined him. Just a bunch of lazy reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 38 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: We'll see what happens in April. He's got two months to heal up. There still isn't a report from an actual doctor who examined him. Just a bunch of lazy reporting. The earliest Jaylon goes is 3rd rd and that is a big risk for any team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 3 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: We'll see what happens in April. He's got two months to heal up. There still isn't a report from an actual doctor who examined him. Just a bunch of lazy reporting. Stubborn as a rock. No one is rooting against the kid to have a quick and complete recovery, but you have to be an idiot to INVEST a 1st round pick on him at this point. NFL Network's Albert Breer compares Notre Dame LB Jaylon Smith's nerve damage to ex-South Carolina RB Marcus Lattimore's injury coming out of college. Lattimore, of course, never played in an NFL game after 49ers GM Trent Baalke blew a fourth-round pick on him during San Francisco's failed "redshirt" phase. Other medical analysts have likened Smith's nerve damage to that of Peyton Manning's. Manning's nerve "woke back up." It's unclear if Smith's will. Source: Albert Breer on Twitter Feb 26 - 8:56 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 6 hours ago, Gas2No99 said: Stubborn as a rock. No one is rooting against the kid to have a quick and complete recovery, but you have to be an idiot to INVEST a 1st round pick on him at this point. NFL Network's Albert Breer compares Notre Dame LB Jaylon Smith's nerve damage to ex-South Carolina RB Marcus Lattimore's injury coming out of college. Lattimore, of course, never played in an NFL game after 49ers GM Trent Baalke blew a fourth-round pick on him during San Francisco's failed "redshirt" phase. Other medical analysts have likened Smith's nerve damage to that of Peyton Manning's. Manning's nerve "woke back up." It's unclear if Smith's will. Source: Albert Breer on Twitter Feb 26 - 8:56 PM Exactly, sorry to break it to you guys, but severely injured players tend to stay injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, cant wait said: Exactly, sorry to break it to you guys, but severely injured players tend to stay injured Yeah. 20 year olds never bounce back. Come on. There is a laundry list of players who have come back from injuries at even older ages and been fine. Modern medicine is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 darron lee is a good fit for the jets, speed and coverage abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 3 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Yeah. 20 year olds never bounce back. Come on. There is a laundry list of players who have come back from injuries at even older ages and been fine. Modern medicine is great. Sure then he'll be a great value in the later rounds then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 4 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Yeah. 20 year olds never bounce back. Come on. There is a laundry list of players who have come back from injuries at even older ages and been fine. Modern medicine is great. Can Dee get some of that marvellous medicine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 4 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Yeah. 20 year olds never bounce back. Come on. There is a laundry list of players who have come back from injuries at even older ages and been fine. Modern medicine is great. what about lattimore tho ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Larz said: what about lattimore tho ? Lattimore had multiple knee injuries at separate times. He also uses his legs as a running back much different than a linebacker. Jaylon's injury history except for the freak thing is clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 6 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Lattimore had multiple knee injuries at separate times. He also uses his legs as a running back much different than a linebacker. Jaylon's injury history except for the freak thing is clean. Nerve regeneration is a tricky issue. Teams with interest will want a physical or access to his medical records. Kid is in an tough situation here. If he consents it is 50/50 he hears something he does not want to hear. Refuse and it's a red flag as to his draft ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Sounds like Marcus Lattimore AKA Boobie Miles issue, that's not gonna be good for this kids future. If he never gets injured he might have been harassing the Jets on Miami for the next 10+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 I am now thinking 4th rd for Smith good thing he had insurance, I believe the colleges should buy these kids these policies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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