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2 minutes ago, Fibonacci said:

Comp comp comp. 

 

Should be a 4th at $46m

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Just now, 32EBoozer said:

Should be a 4th at $46m

I will take it. Didn't think someone would sign him for that type of a money. 

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2 minutes ago, SenorGato said:

Turning a UDFA into a comp pick seems new for the Jets.

NOT your SOJ

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Good for him.  Plus he can still go to all his favorite restaurants.  Score!!!

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Costello still trying so hard to troll Jet fans. Snacks, not to take anything away from him, was the DL that benefited most from having Sheldon and Mo next to him. Offenses put their pass pro focus on the edges, leaving the middle soft.

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Good for snacks..giants fans will like him.. Remember when cofield was dominant for them for like a 1.25 seasons? 

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19 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

 

 

Costello still trying so hard to troll Jet fans. Snacks, not to take anything away from him, was the DL that benefited most from having Sheldon and Mo next to him. Offenses put their pass pro focus on the edges, leaving the middle soft.

Couldn't agree more. Look, Snacks was a great NT, but the idea that he "made" Mo and Sheldon instead of the other way around is ludicrous.

Remember when everyone was worried with replacing Pouha? Big bodies are easier to find that dynamic hybrid players.

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23 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

 

 

Costello still trying so hard to troll Jet fans. Snacks, not to take anything away from him, was the DL that benefited most from having Sheldon and Mo next to him. Offenses put their pass pro focus on the edges, leaving the middle soft.

Jets 26th in rushing yards allowed in 2012.

Jets 3rd in rushing yards allowed in 2013.

Snacks was the full time starter in 2013. Say what you want about him, he occupied plenty of blockers and space so other guys could make plays. It was a mutually beneficial relationship for Wilk and Sheldon to be lined up next to him. He helped their numbers just as much as they helped his.

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Sucks to lose him, but that's how it goes. The pick will be nice; that's next year, correct?

However, the pessimist Jet fan in me is worried that now, Sheldon Richardson does something in the offseason to get suspended for a long time.

 

It would be the Jet way to go from overwhelming strength to weakness in a snap of the fingers. 

 

 

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Better to the Giants than NEP. Who as usual has been quiet first day of free agency at least so far. Although rumored to be willing to pay especially for good O players. For example, Forte! :lol:

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3 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

Jets 26th in rushing yards allowed in 2012.

Jets 3rd in rushing yards allowed in 2013.

Snacks was the full time starter in 2013. Say what you want about him, he occupied plenty of blockers and space so other guys could make plays. It was a mutually beneficial relationship for Wilk and Sheldon to be lined up next to him. He helped their numbers just as much as they helped his.

Snack was/is an excellent nose tackle.  Now that he's not here, don't revise history. 

He is a premier run stuffer, and he is the player I am most pissed about losing.

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9 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Couldn't agree more. Look, Snacks was a great NT, but the idea that he "made" Mo and Sheldon instead of the other way around is ludicrous.

Remember when everyone was worried with replacing Pouha? Big bodies are easier to find that dynamic hybrid players.

I'm going to disagree a little here.  Snacks is excellent.  He didn't make Mo and Sheldon, but they didn't make him either.  He is a fantastic run stuffer, and was a huge reason they got to face so many 3rd and long situations where he could come off the field.

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1 minute ago, chirorob said:

Snack was/is an excellent nose tackle.  Now that he's not here, don't revise history. 

He is a premier run stuffer, and he is the player I am most pissed about losing.

Agreed, but run stuffers are much easier to find in the draft/FA than edge rushers. We've had a good run of finding guys that can do a really good job against the run. Snacks will be missed but Sheldon/Williams/Wilkerson is the reason Harrison was expendable. Plus we will likely net a 4th round comp pick. Not happy he is gone, but every team loses players in free agency. 

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Jets did the right thing letting him go. I may be wrong but I don't think a tradition 34NT is even needed in a Bowles defense.

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42 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

 

 

Costello still trying so hard to troll Jet fans. Snacks, not to take anything away from him, was the DL that benefited most from having Sheldon and Mo next to him. Offenses put their pass pro focus on the edges, leaving the middle soft.

Funny thing is if he was locked up long term for $5-6M/year last season it would have been laughed at by Costello and others as overpaying and wasting our saved-up cap space while only bidding against ourselves. That a 2-down player who never gets to the QB would never get that much on the open market, and stupid Jets, blah blah blah.

Now he gets almost $10M/year from the Giants and all he sees is the plus to them and the negative to us. Ignoring that the Giants just ate up $10M/year in cap space on a guy no one would offer a 2nd round pick for last year (and it's news if anyone even offered us a 3rd or a 4th) when we tagged him for 2015.

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When you are the best in the league at your position, you deserve a payday like this... especially having worked his way up from the bottom, not being a bluechip draft pick.

With him gone, I think we finally get to see how good this collection of first round DL's we have are. They need to be more disruptive and more able to take a game over, like Watt does on his own.

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3 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Funny thing is if he was locked up long term for $5-6M/year last season it would have been laughed at by Costello and others as overpaying and wasting our saved-up cap space while only bidding against ourselves. That a 2-down player who never gets to the QB would never get that much on the open market, and stupid Jets, blah blah blah.

Now he gets almost $10M/year from the Giants and all he sees is the plus to them and the negative to us. Ignoring that the Giants just ate up $10M/year in cap space on a guy no one would offer a 2nd round pick for last year (and it's news if anyone even offered us a 3rd or a 4th) when we tagged him for 2015.

Did he really get close to $10mm a year?

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Just now, FidelioJet said:

Did he really get close to $10mm a year?

My bad. I thought it was $9.5M/year. It's only $9.25M.

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2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

When you are the best in the league at your position, you deserve a payday like this... especially having worked his way up from the bottom, not being a bluechip draft pick.

With him gone, I think we finally get to see how good this collection of first round DL's we have are. They need to be more disruptive and more able to take a game over, like Watt does on his own.

I think Snacks gone helps Richardson the most. It should/will move him back inside the tackle where he doesn't have to look like a fat, lazy OLB with the wrong number anymore. 

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Just now, HessStation said:

I think Snacks gone helps Richardson the most. It should/will move him back inside the tackle where he doesn't have to look like a fat, lazy OLB with the wrong number anymore. 

Agree 

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Giants line is horrible so this will help big time.  Glad to see one of the good guys getting compensated well for great play.   GL Snacks!

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9 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:

Cool, chances increase that we will sign Wilk to a new deal

I don't see that as a direct result of this at all. The Jets have had ample opportunity to give Wilk a deal. They haven't. Snacks being gone doesn't increase the likelihood of a long term deal with him.

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17 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:

Cool, chances increase that we will sign Wilk to a new deal

Yep

Jets run defense rankings since 2011 by DVOA along with Harrison's defensive playing time:

2015: 1 (53.9%)

2014: 11 (47.7%)

2013: 2 (45.3%)

2012: 15 (2%)

2011: 4 (0%)

 

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4 minutes ago, SenorGato said:

Yep

Jets run defense rankings since 2011 by DVOA along with Harrison's defensive playing time:

2015: 1 (53.9%)

2014: 11 (47.7%)

2013: 2 (45.3%)

2012: 15 (2%)

2011: 4 (0%)

 

Now do it for Harrison's defensive playing time on running plays.

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At least he's out if the AFC East. Get your money young man.

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