JiF 151,228 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, section314 said: Su'a Cravens at #20. If he makes it that far. Blew up USC pro day. He's an interesting prospect but what are you drafting him to play? I'm guessing S because he's too small to play LB in Bowles system. I'm not seeing him as a 1st rounder, personally, nor do I anticpate he's the best available. He's kind of a tweener and I dont think those guys go too high. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greenseed4 5,595 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 46 minutes ago, section314 said: Su'a Cravens at #20. If he makes it that far. Blew up USC pro day. I really like Cravens also, but would caution you to curb your enthusiasm. I don't think he blew anything up at his pro-day aside from his interviews, and despite looking extremely fluid in his movements (did you see that ankle flexion from the combine?! hot damn!!), he didn't test well at all. I like his highlight reel, and see shades of Honey Badger in him, but if you watch an entire "versus game" you'll see that his highlight plays are few and far between. He gets lost in the wash a lot, and is easily overpowered by would-be blockers. Based on game-tape I'd say he's a third day candidate. Based on his highlights and hype, I'd say he's a 2nd rounder. But he's definitely not (in my opinion) a guy you take at #20. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 43,051 Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share Posted March 25, 2016 Got my Nawrocki bible in the mail. Will kepp yall updated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
32EBoozer 6,830 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 1 hour ago, SenorGato said: Nope nope nope....Top performer in the shuttle, 4.7 40, solid 3-cone and broad jump, solid enough vert, and the right mind of size. #Gholston! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Integrity28 75,052 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 1 hour ago, JiF said: How many safeties do you plan on playing at the same time? And I like what Miles and Bailey bring to the table. Bailey looks to have some coverage skills and Miles plays like his hair is on fire. Miles was making plays all over the field when he filled in for Pryor. And I'm not against a safety, I just dont think Kearse is any good. He didnt want to tackle Dalvin Cook or Derrick Henry. You think he wants to cover/tackle Gronk or Bennett? Doesn't Bowles run some sort of fancy-pantsy nickel package or something? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SenorGato 13,959 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Cravens is one of those players I want to be a Jet, but not at 20. 2 hours ago, JiF said: Cool. Watch him play football and get back to me, Mr. Dupree. Dupree was a bad pick? 2 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: #Gholston! What does that eveh mean? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
32EBoozer 6,830 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 10 minutes ago, SenorGato said: Cravens is one of those players I want to be a Jet, but not at 20. Dupree was a bad pick? What does that eveh mean? Oh, you know what it means alright! YesSirreBob...... You know EXACTLY what I mean..... Amirite?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JiF 151,228 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Doesn't Bowles run some sort of fancy-pantsy nickel package or something? Sure. But I think that was an extra corner, not safety. IDK though. Seemed like Gilchrist and Pryor were the only 2 safeties on the field for the most part. 1 minute ago, SenorGato said: Cravens is one of those players I want to be a Jet, but not at 20. Dupree was a bad pick? What does that eveh mean? Maybe, maybe not. To early to tell at this point. But he certainly wasnt this pass rusher extraordinaire you made him out to be based on his magical combine #'s (which is why I said that when you gave me Lawson's combine #'s). The kid didnt record a sack the last 8 games of the year. So maybe he hit the rookie wall or maybe he did exactly what I said he did in college, completely disappear in games. Lorenzo Maudlin got better as the season went on and recorded as many sacks as Dupree on the season playing 300 less snaps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SenorGato 13,959 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 27 minutes ago, JiF said: Maybe, maybe not. To early to tell at this point. But he certainly wasnt this pass rusher extraordinaire you made him out to be based on his magical combine #'s (which is why I said that when you gave me Lawson's combine #'s). The kid didnt record a sack the last 8 games of the year. So maybe he hit the rookie wall or maybe he did exactly what I said he did in college, completely disappear in games. Lorenzo Maudlin got better as the season went on and recorded as many sacks as Dupree on the season playing 300 less snaps. Go check out the combine performances of the top two rookie sack leaders Preston Smith and Danielle Hunter. Dupree's going to be fine btw. Lawson's combine is more or less right with Smith. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lupz27 12,544 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 5 hours ago, Integrity28 said: Sounds like Quinton Coples 2.0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PatsFanTX 29,854 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 With the Pasts signing another playmaking TE i would say it is a need, imo. What does that have to do with anything? Are you saying the Jets should make moves based on what the Pats do? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 43,051 Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share Posted March 25, 2016 29 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Sounds like Quinton Coples 2.0 @dbatesman3 cone put Coples' time to shame. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T0mShane 141,894 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 2 hours ago, section314 said: Su'a Cravens at #20. If he makes it that far. Blew up USC pro day. We already burned a draft pick on a tiny linebacker in Calvin Pryor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T0mShane 141,894 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 56 minutes ago, SenorGato said: Go check out the combine performances of the top two rookie sack leaders Preston Smith and Danielle Hunter. Dupree's going to be fine btw. Lawson's combine is more or less right with Smith. I really liked Preston Smith. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RutgersJetFan 94,026 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Since for some incredibly sad reasons that Paradicknose hates it, I now hope this becomes the most popular thread of all time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T0mShane 141,894 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 3 hours ago, section314 said: Su'a Cravens at #20. If he makes it that far. Blew up USC pro day. Do you want to see my mock draft 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RutgersJetFan 94,026 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Do you want to see my mock draft plz to start a new thread for it but not in the Draft Forum 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dbatesman 48,544 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 5 hours ago, Matt39 said: @dbatesman3 cone put Coples' time to shame. Yyyyup. Not even in the same universe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redlichtie 1,351 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 14 hours ago, JiF said: He's an interesting prospect but what are you drafting him to play? I'm guessing S because he's too small to play LB in Bowles system. I'm not seeing him as a 1st rounder, personally, nor do I anticpate he's the best available. He's kind of a tweener and I dont think those guys go too high. Worth bearing in mind the position Deone Buccanon plays in that Arizona defence, a kind of hybrid safety playing linebacker, personally I'd prefer to see us use a mid-round pick if Bowles wants that player in his defense(TJ Green) and not burn the 20th overall on a very role specific player but clearly Bowles wants more speed and agility in his LB corps and perhaps Cravens or Kearse would be perfect in that role(personally I'm not sold on Kearse). Was disappointed we lost Antonio Allen for just this reason as he was absolutely perfect for that role and pretty much played it in college with a lot of success. Agree with you on Bailey and Miles. my personal safety crush at the moment is Justin Simmons, think he's going to be a stud pro and is just the kind of fluid ballhawk in coverage we've been missing for years and would complement Pryor perfectly.....also can tackle and hit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Powpow 877 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 On March 25, 2016 at 5:56 AM, PatsFanTX said: What does that have to do with anything? Are you saying the Jets should make moves based on what the Pats do? Yea that would be out of character. Why would the Jets do anything to challenge the Pats offensive schemes. After all it's seems they've won the division the last 20 years in a row and are our biggest rival. We should play nice and bring Idziot back to run the draft for Mac to ensure Brady wins another 5 SB's with no interference from us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BroadwayJets 743 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 User Actions Following Jon Ledyard@LedyardNFLDraft Noah Spence has individual visits/workouts w/ #Cardinals, #Ravens, #Jaguars, #Buccaneers, #Packers, #Jets, and #Saints next week. Busy man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BroadwayJets 743 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 User Actions Following Rand GetlinVerified account@Rand_Getlin I'm told #OhioState safety Vonn Bell has (or has had) meetings, workouts and/or visits with the #Jets, #Patriots, #Panthers and #Giants. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BroadwayJets 743 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Jets looking at Kearse and Bell... Mac looking to find a Gilchrist replacement down the road Quote Link to post Share on other sites
King P 3,131 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 NFL Draft Bible @NFLDraftBible9 minutes ago #Maryland DE/OLB Yannick Ngakoue told me he has NFL visits with Eagles, Jags, Jets and Titans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedWhofans 2,947 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) Shaq Lawson (OLB, Clemson)Jayvon Kearse (S, Clemson)Noah Spence (OLB, Eastern Kentucky)Vonn Bell (S, Ohio St)Yannick Ngakoue (OLB, Maryland) Edited March 30, 2016 by UnitedWhofans 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
32EBoozer 6,830 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 33 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Shaq Lawson (OLB, Clemson)Jayvon Kearse (S, Clemson)Noah Spence (OLB, Eastern Kentucky)Vonn Bell (S, Ohio St)Yannick Ngakoue (OLB, Maryland) Hmmmm?......I'm starting to see a pattern here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AFJF 43,611 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 5 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Shaq Lawson (OLB, Clemson)Jayvon Kearse (S, Clemson)Noah Spence (OLB, Eastern Kentucky)Vonn Bell (S, Ohio St)Yannick Ngakoue (OLB, Maryland) I'd be shocked if Lawson is still there at 20. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RutgersJetFan 94,026 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I can't wait to hear Francessa pronounce "Ngakoue." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SenorGato 13,959 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 37 minutes ago, AFJF said: I'd be shocked if Lawson is still there at 20. Same. This draft sucks, he's one of the good ones. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jet Nut 16,895 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 On March 28, 2016 at 5:30 AM, Powpow said: Yea that would be out of character. Why would the Jets do anything to challenge the Pats offensive schemes. After all it's seems they've won the division the last 20 years in a row and are our biggest rival. We should play nice and bring Idziot back to run the draft for Mac to ensure Brady wins another 5 SB's with no interference from us. Because drafting in reaction to what the Pats do is the kind of stupid infatuation that clueless fans who think they're GMs do wh never the Pats fart. I don't know, you draft as a reaction to the Pats roster and one of the TEs get hurt? Bet traded? Are ineffective? We waste a pick? Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T0mShane 141,894 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 6 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Shaq Lawson (OLB, Clemson)Jayvon Kearse (S, Clemson)Noah Spence (OLB, Eastern Kentucky)Vonn Bell (S, Ohio St)Yannick Ngakoue (OLB, Maryland) Haha who needs a QB when Brian Hoyer is available bros Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Powpow 877 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: Because drafting in reaction to what the Pats do is the kind of stupid infatuation that clueless fans who think they're GMs do wh never the Pats fart. I don't know, you draft as a reaction to the Pats roster and one of the TEs get hurt? Bet traded? Are ineffective? We waste a pick? Lol I fart in your general direction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jet Nut 16,895 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 4 hours ago, Powpow said: I fart in your general direction. Monty Python, like it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Jets fan 2,975 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Sucks this got moved, I thought it was ok within a month of the draft?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BroadwayJets 743 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 User Actions Following Rand GetlinVerified account@Rand_Getlin Former #LSU CB Rashard Robinson is generating a ton of interest. Visited the #Broncos recently. I'm told the #Jets and #Seahawks are next. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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