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What a great game, unfortunately the bad guys won but I can't recall a better regular season game in recent memory.  back and forth, high level players making big time plays.  a fun game until the end.  what was really great is Carolina amazingly had a lead and a chance to win when Berry, Hicks and Meeks spent so much time on the bench in foul trouble.  for much of the game Carolina had 1 starter that was projected to start this season and they found a way to hang around and eventually take a late lead.  College basketball needs more games like this.

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P TOP 25
RANKINGS UPDATED (12/19/2016)
RANK TEAM (FIRST PLACE VOTES) SCHEDULES/RESULTS POINTS PREV
1 NOVA.pngVillanova (56)
Overall: 11-0
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/21 American 6:30 PM EST 1614 1
2 UCLA.pngUCLA (3)
Overall: 12-0
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/21 Western Michigan 11:00 PM EST 1514 2
3 KANSAS.pngKansas
Overall: 10-1
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/22 at UNLV 9:00 PM EST 1450 3
4 BAYLOR.pngBaylor (6)
Overall: 11-0
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/21 Texas Southern 7:30 PM EST 1439 4
5 DUKE.pngDuke
Overall: 10-1
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/19 Tennessee State 7:00 PM EST
12/21 vs. Elon 6:00 PM EST
1385 5
6 UK.pngKentucky
Overall: 10-1
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/21 at Louisville 7:00 PM EST 1337 6
7 GONZAG.pngGonzaga
Overall: 11-0
Conference: 0-0
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12/21 South Dakota 9:00 PM EST 1211 8
8 UNC.pngNorth Carolina
Overall: 10-2
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/21 Northern Iowa 8:00 PM EST 1170 7
9 CREIGH.pngCreighton
Overall: 11-0
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/20 at Arizona State 9:00 PM EST 1058 10
10 LVILLE.pngLouisville
Overall: 10-1
Conference: 0-0
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12/21 Kentucky 7:00 PM EST 1044 11
11 WVU.pngWest Virginia
Overall: 9-1
Conference: 0-0
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12/20 Radford 7:00 PM EST
12/23 Northern Kentucky 4:00 PM EST
937 12
12 UVA.pngVirginia
Overall: 9-1
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/21 at California 10:00 PM EST 886 13
13 BUTLER.pngButler
Overall: 10-1
Conference: 0-0
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12/21 Vermont 7:00 PM EST 821 18
14 WISC.pngWisconsin
Overall: 10-2
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/23 Florida A&M 9:00 PM EST 781 14
15 PURDUE.pngPurdue
Overall: 9-2
Conference: 0-0
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12/19 Western Illinois 6:00 PM EST
12/21 Norfolk State 7:00 PM EST
754 15
16 IND.pngIndiana
Overall: 8-2
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/19 Delaware State 8:00 PM EST
12/22 Austin Peay 7:00 PM EST
719 9
17 XAVIER.pngXavier
Overall: 9-2
Conference: 0-0
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12/20 Eastern Washington 6:30 PM EST 542 17
18 ARIZ.pngArizona
Overall: 10-2
Conference: 0-0
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12/20 New Mexico 9:00 PM EST 501 19
19 MARYCA.pngSt. Mary's
Overall: 8-1
Conference: 0-0
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12/20 Texas A&M-Corpus Christi 10:00 PM EST
12/22 South Carolina State 10:00 PM EST
389 20
20 OREG.pngOregon
Overall: 10-2
Conference: 0-0
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12/20 Fresno State 11:00 PM EST 299 22
21 FSU.pngFlorida State
Overall: 11-1
Conference: 0-0
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12/19 Samford 2:00 PM EST 290 23
22 SC.pngSouth Carolina
Overall: 9-1
Conference: 0-0
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12/21 Clemson 9:00 PM EST 218 16
23 USC.pngSouthern California
Overall: 10-0
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/19 Cornell 10:30 PM EST
12/22 vs. Missouri State 11:00 PM EST
212 24
24 CINCY.pngCincinnati
Overall: 9-2
Conference: 0-0
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12/22 Marshall 7:00 PM EST 202 25
25 ND.pngNotre Dame
Overall: 9-2
Conference: 0-0
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12/19 Colgate 7:00 PM EST 188 21
Others Receiving Votes: Florida (8-3) 48; Virginia Tech (9-1) 40; Maryland (11-1) 27; Seton Hall (9-2) 15; Oklahoma State (9-2) 8; Valparaiso (9-2) 7; Minnesota (11-1) 6; Miami (Fla.) (8-2) 5; Northwestern (9-2) 4; Loyola-Chicago (10-2) 1; Kansas State (10-1) 1; Iowa State (7-3) 1; Clemson (8-2) 1
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RANKINGS UPDATED (12/19/2016)
RANK TEAM (FIRST PLACE VOTES) SCHEDULES/RESULTS POINTS PREV
1 NOVA.pngVillanova (28)
Overall: 11-0
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/21 American 6:30 PM EST 796 1
2 UCLA.pngUCLA (2)
Overall: 12-0
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/21 Western Michigan 11:00 PM EST 755 2
3 KANSAS.pngKansas (1)
Overall: 10-1
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/22 at UNLV 9:00 PM EST 712 3
4 DUKE.pngDuke (1)
Overall: 10-1
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/19 Tennessee State 7:00 PM EST
12/21 vs. Elon 6:00 PM EST
688 4
5 UK.pngKentucky
Overall: 10-1
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/21 at Louisville 7:00 PM EST 667 7
6 BAYLOR.pngBaylor
Overall: 11-0
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/21 Texas Southern 7:30 PM EST 658 5
7 GONZAG.pngGonzaga
Overall: 11-0
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/21 South Dakota 9:00 PM EST 611 8
8 UNC.pngNorth Carolina
Overall: 10-2
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/21 Northern Iowa 8:00 PM EST 563 6
9 CREIGH.pngCreighton
Overall: 11-0
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/20 at Arizona State 9:00 PM EST 539 10
10 UVA.pngVirginia
Overall: 9-1
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/21 at California 10:00 PM EST 476 12
11 LVILLE.pngLouisville
Overall: 10-1
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/21 Kentucky 7:00 PM EST 469 11
12 WVU.pngWest Virginia
Overall: 9-1
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/20 Radford 7:00 PM EST
12/23 Northern Kentucky 4:00 PM EST
460 13
13 BUTLER.pngButler
Overall: 10-1
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/21 Vermont 7:00 PM EST 388 18
14 WISC.pngWisconsin
Overall: 10-2
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/23 Florida A&M 9:00 PM EST 366 14
15 PURDUE.pngPurdue
Overall: 9-2
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/19 Western Illinois 6:00 PM EST
12/21 Norfolk State 7:00 PM EST
337 16
16 IND.pngIndiana
Overall: 8-2
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/19 Delaware State 8:00 PM EST
12/22 Austin Peay 7:00 PM EST
319 9
17 XAVIER.pngXavier
Overall: 9-2
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/20 Eastern Washington 6:30 PM EST 295 17
18 ARIZ.pngArizona
Overall: 10-2
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/20 New Mexico 9:00 PM EST 229 19
19 MARYCA.pngSt. Mary's
Overall: 8-1
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/20 Texas A&M-Corpus Christi 10:00 PM EST
12/22 South Carolina State 10:00 PM EST
197 20
20 SC.pngSouth Carolina
Overall: 9-1
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/21 Clemson 9:00 PM EST 180 15
21 OREG.pngOregon
Overall: 10-2
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/20 Fresno State 11:00 PM EST 145 22
22 FSU.pngFlorida State
Overall: 11-1
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/19 Samford 2:00 PM EST 111 23
23 CINCY.pngCincinnati
Overall: 9-2
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/22 Marshall 7:00 PM EST 108 23
24 ND.pngNotre Dame
Overall: 9-2
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/19 Colgate 7:00 PM EST 92 21
25 USC.pngSouthern California
Overall: 10-0
Conference: 0-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
12/19 Cornell 10:30 PM EST
12/22 vs. Missouri State 11:00 PM EST
88 25
Others Receiving Votes: Florida (8-3) 30; Oklahoma State (9-2) 21; Maryland (11-1) 20; Arkansas (9-1) 15; Miami (Fla.) (8-2) 13; Virginia Tech (9-1) 8; Wichita State (9-3) 7; California (9-2) 7; Middle Tennessee (10-2) 7; Seton Hall (9-2) 7; TCU (10-1) 6; Texas Tech (10-1) 3; Nevada (9-2) 2; Colorado (8-3) 2; Valparaiso (9-2) 1; Minnesota (11-1) 1; Michigan State (7-5) 1
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Grayson Allen is duke basketball, it's what they teach there. you can look back through the years and see how many incidents they have had whether it's Laettner stomping on the guys chest, Suliman and his antic, Gerald henderson's elbow, JJ redick, Justice Winslow's karate kicks or Grayson Allen.  this stuff is TAUGHT at duke and it gets ignored.  it's disgraceful and K should be suspended along w/ Allen.

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1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

That's what happens when the guy who smashes any fun discussion of college hoops disappears from talking to himself once his front-running a$$'s team loses to Georgia Tech.

that's what happens when the only one to contribute goes on vacation.  I am here every win and every loss unlike certain frontrunners on here but thanks for thinking of me.

 

I haven't even seen the tech debacle yet. it's on my DVR.  will review when I get a chance.

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yes, there's nothing more I want to do while on vacation than argue about football and college basketball.  the proof is in the posts, you guys disappear when your teams lose(not jetfan80 since no one has any clue what happens w/ div 2 teams), I don't.

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K and duke prove what a disgrace they are to organized sports once again.  an "indefinite" suspension that turns into just 1 game for the tripper.  it's amazing what he and that program get away with.  the good news is allen cannot help himself so he will trip again and then the NCAA and ACC have to step in and suspend him long term.  Allen is the perfect duke basketball player, incredibly talent, has to try to cheat to win, dirty, whiny.  he is everything that duke basketball is about.

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23 minutes ago, nj meadowlands said:

u like  UNCW -11 tonight?

Big spread for a road game, and we've had our troubles @ Drexel, but I kind of do.  The Dragons really struggle to handle the press.  And their first year coach, Zach Spiker (who has done a nice job there in his 1st season after having success at Army), hasn't faced Keatts before. 

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AP TOP 25
RANKINGS UPDATED (01/09/2017)
RANK TEAM (FIRST PLACE VOTES) SCHEDULES/RESULTS POINTS PREV
1 BAYLOR.pngBaylor (55)
Overall: 15-0
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 at West Virginia 7:00 PM EST
01/14 at Kansas State 4:30 PM EST
1608 2
2 KANSAS.pngKansas (8)
Overall: 14-1
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 at Oklahoma 9:00 PM EST
01/14 Oklahoma State 2:00 PM EST
1517 3
3 NOVA.pngVillanova (1)
Overall: 15-1
Conference: 3-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 Xavier 7:00 PM EST
01/14 at St. John's 12:00 PM EST
1499 1
4 UCLA.pngUCLA (1)
Overall: 16-1
Conference: 3-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 at Colorado 11:00 PM EST
01/14 at Utah 6:00 PM EST
1433 4
5 GONZAG.pngGonzaga
Overall: 15-0
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 Loyola Marymount 9:00 PM EST
01/14 St. Mary's 10:00 PM EST
1366 5
6 UK.pngKentucky
Overall: 13-2
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 at Vanderbilt 7:00 PM EST
01/14 Auburn 4:00 PM EST
1327 6
7 DUKE.pngDuke
Overall: 14-2
Conference: 2-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 at Florida State 8:00 PM EST
01/14 at Louisville 12:00 PM EST
1173 8
8 CREIGH.pngCreighton
Overall: 15-1
Conference: 3-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/11 Butler 9:00 PM EST
01/14 Truman State 1:00 PM EST
1111 10
9 FSU.pngFlorida State
Overall: 15-1
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 Duke 8:00 PM EST
01/14 at North Carolina 2:00 PM EST
1071 12
10 WVU.pngWest Virginia
Overall: 13-2
Conference: 2-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 Baylor 7:00 PM EST
01/14 at Texas 4:00 PM EST
972 7
11 UNC.pngNorth Carolina
Overall: 14-3
Conference: 2-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/11 at Wake Forest 8:00 PM EST
01/14 Florida State 2:00 PM EST
902 14
12 BUTLER.pngButler
Overall: 14-2
Conference: 3-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/11 at Creighton 9:00 PM EST
01/14 Xavier 2:00 PM EST
880 18
13 OREG.pngOregon
Overall: 15-2
Conference: 4-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/14 Oregon State 10:30 PM EST 869 15
14 LVILLE.pngLouisville
Overall: 13-3
Conference: 1-2
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/11 Pittsburgh 7:00 PM EST
01/14 Duke 12:00 PM EST
744 9
15 XAVIER.pngXavier
Overall: 13-2
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 at Villanova 7:00 PM EST
01/14 at Butler 2:00 PM EST
651 16
16 ARIZ.pngArizona
Overall: 15-2
Conference: 4-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 Arizona State 9:00 PM EST 634 17
17 PURDUE.pngPurdue
Overall: 14-3
Conference: 3-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 at Iowa 9:00 PM EST 584 20
18 WISC.pngWisconsin
Overall: 13-3
Conference: 2-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 Ohio State 7:00 PM EST 581 13
19 UVA.pngVirginia
Overall: 12-3
Conference: 2-2
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/14 at Clemson 12:00 PM EST 580 11
20 ND.pngNotre Dame
Overall: 14-2
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 at Miami (Fla.) 7:00 PM EST
01/14 at Virginia Tech 2:00 PM EST
468 23
21 MARYCA.pngSt. Mary's
Overall: 14-1
Conference: 4-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 at Portland 11:00 PM EST
01/14 at Gonzaga 10:00 PM EST
377 19
22 CINCY.pngCincinnati
Overall: 13-2
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 SMU 9:00 PM EST
01/15 at East Carolina 4:00 PM EST
256 22
23 FLA.pngFlorida
Overall: 12-3
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 at Alabama 9:00 PM EST
01/14 Georgia 12:00 PM EST
252 24
24 MINN.pngMinnesota
Overall: 15-2
Conference: 3-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/11 at Michigan State 7:00 PM EST
01/14 at Penn State 12:00 PM EST
167 27
25 USC.pngSouthern California
Overall: 15-2
Conference: 2-2
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 at Utah 9:00 PM EST
01/15 at Colorado 8:30 PM EST
20 25
Others Receiving Votes: Seton Hall (12-3) 11; South Carolina (12-3) 7; Iowa State (10-4) 7; Indiana (11-5) 6; Virginia Tech (12-3) 6; SMU (14-3) 5; Maryland (14-2) 5; Clemson (11-4) 4; UNC-Wilmington (15-2) 3; VCU (13-3) 3; Wichita State (14-3) 2; Nevada (14-3) 2; Dayton (12-3) 2
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COACHES POLL
RANKINGS UPDATED (01/09/2017)
RANK TEAM (FIRST PLACE VOTES) SCHEDULES/RESULTS POINTS PREV
1 BAYLOR.pngBaylor (22)
Overall: 15-0
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 at West Virginia 7:00 PM EST
01/14 at Kansas State 4:30 PM EST
783 3
2 KANSAS.pngKansas (9)
Overall: 14-1
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 at Oklahoma 9:00 PM EST
01/14 Oklahoma State 2:00 PM EST
756 2
3 NOVA.pngVillanova (1)
Overall: 15-1
Conference: 3-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 Xavier 7:00 PM EST
01/14 at St. John's 12:00 PM EST
727 1
4 UCLA.pngUCLA
Overall: 16-1
Conference: 3-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 at Colorado 11:00 PM EST
01/14 at Utah 6:00 PM EST
691 5
5 GONZAG.pngGonzaga
Overall: 15-0
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 Loyola Marymount 9:00 PM EST
01/14 St. Mary's 10:00 PM EST
690 4
6 UK.pngKentucky
Overall: 13-2
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 at Vanderbilt 7:00 PM EST
01/14 Auburn 4:00 PM EST
651 6
7 DUKE.pngDuke
Overall: 14-2
Conference: 2-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 at Florida State 8:00 PM EST
01/14 at Louisville 12:00 PM EST
557 8
8 CREIGH.pngCreighton
Overall: 15-1
Conference: 3-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/11 Butler 9:00 PM EST
01/14 Truman State 1:00 PM EST
517 10
9 WVU.pngWest Virginia
Overall: 13-2
Conference: 2-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 Baylor 7:00 PM EST
01/14 at Texas 4:00 PM EST
484 7
10 FSU.pngFlorida State
Overall: 15-1
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 Duke 8:00 PM EST
01/14 at North Carolina 2:00 PM EST
472 13
11 OREG.pngOregon
Overall: 15-2
Conference: 4-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/14 Oregon State 10:30 PM EST 421 14
12 UNC.pngNorth Carolina
Overall: 14-3
Conference: 2-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/11 at Wake Forest 8:00 PM EST
01/14 Florida State 2:00 PM EST
408 16
13 BUTLER.pngButler
Overall: 14-2
Conference: 3-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/11 at Creighton 9:00 PM EST
01/14 Xavier 2:00 PM EST
395 18
14 XAVIER.pngXavier
Overall: 13-2
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 at Villanova 7:00 PM EST
01/14 at Butler 2:00 PM EST
373 15
15 LVILLE.pngLouisville
Overall: 13-3
Conference: 1-2
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/11 Pittsburgh 7:00 PM EST
01/14 Duke 12:00 PM EST
372 9
16 ARIZ.pngArizona
Overall: 15-2
Conference: 4-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 Arizona State 9:00 PM EST 332 17
17 WISC.pngWisconsin
Overall: 13-3
Conference: 2-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 Ohio State 7:00 PM EST 311 11
18 UVA.pngVirginia
Overall: 12-3
Conference: 2-2
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/14 at Clemson 12:00 PM EST 308 12
19 PURDUE.pngPurdue
Overall: 14-3
Conference: 3-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 at Iowa 9:00 PM EST 254 20
20 ND.pngNotre Dame
Overall: 14-2
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 at Miami (Fla.) 7:00 PM EST
01/14 at Virginia Tech 2:00 PM EST
228 21
21 MARYCA.pngSt. Mary's
Overall: 14-1
Conference: 4-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 at Portland 11:00 PM EST
01/14 at Gonzaga 10:00 PM EST
220 19
22 CINCY.pngCincinnati
Overall: 13-2
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 SMU 9:00 PM EST
01/15 at East Carolina 4:00 PM EST
145 22
23 FLA.pngFlorida
Overall: 12-3
Conference: 3-0
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/10 at Alabama 9:00 PM EST
01/14 Georgia 12:00 PM EST
123 24
24 MINN.pngMinnesota
Overall: 15-2
Conference: 3-1
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/11 at Michigan State 7:00 PM EST
01/14 at Penn State 12:00 PM EST
46 29
25 USC.pngSouthern California
Overall: 15-2
Conference: 2-2
Statistics | Schedule | Roster
01/12 at Utah 9:00 PM EST
01/15 at Colorado 8:30 PM EST
30 26
Others Receiving Votes: South Carolina (12-3) 18; Kansas State (13-2) 15; Indiana (11-5) 15; UNC-Wilmington (15-2) 12; New Mexico State (15-2) 10; California (11-5) 7; Virginia Tech (12-3) 5; SMU (14-3) 4; Maryland (14-2) 4; Clemson (11-4) 4; Seton Hall (12-3) 3; Iowa State (10-4) 2; Northwestern (13-4) 2; Wichita State (14-3) 2; Oakland (14-3) 1; Miami (Fla.) (11-3) 1; Dayton (12-3) 1
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I am not counting duke out but so far I am really enjoying their season and Grayson Allen is going to be suspended for a while at some point.  once they take it out of K's hands and the ACC/NCAA steps in.  yet another incident from him last night.

FSU is for real, the Heels face them this weekend but first they have to go on the road to face Wake, the last time they faced a mediocre/bad team on the road in ACC play they lost so hopefully they continue their play from Sunday.

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8 hours ago, greenwichjetfan said:

Took UConn less than 12 minutes to score more points than USF's total for the game. 65 point differential at the whistle. Nuts. 

95% of thier opponents are defeated before the opening tip out of pure intimidation

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