C Mart Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) 4/20/16, 1:48 PM Eagles get Browns' second overall pick, 2017 4th-rd pick; Browns get eighth pick, 2016 3rd-rd, 4th-rd picks; 2017 1st-rd pick, 2018 2nd-rder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 that's a good idea for the browns. now we'll see who bites on lynch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: that's a good idea for the browns. now we'll see who bites on lynch. I would think Cleveland takes him at 8 now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 So the Eagles commit $25M to the QB position in 2016, and then trade away multiple picks and next year's first rounder to draft a QB. Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Just now, cant wait said: I would think Cleveland takes him at 8 now and then cook becomes the commodity. oh the humanity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 If by "good idea" you mean "horrible idea". I guess the Browns: (1) feel like Lynch is the equivalent of Goff/Wentz (seems crazy); and (2) are 100% convinced the 49ers won't take him at 7 (again, seems crazy) - or (3) are perfectly happy with Josh McCown as their QB of the future (that would be completely crazy). Meanwhile, the Eagles move up to take QB number 2 and will have insane money wrapped into their QB depth chart. This seems like the rare lose-lose deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 1 minute ago, cant wait said: I would think Cleveland takes him at 8 now That assumes SF doesn't grab him at 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Just now, Doggin94it said: That assumes SF doesn't grab him at 7. or that the jets don't trade up with SF to get him. i think that's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jett Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I'm sorry but the fact that a bunch of teams have tried trading up and now 2 have to grab these 2 qbs, well they better be Hall of famers or I'll be pissed. I mean Jared Goff And D2 Wentz? I'm so confused. These guys must be a lot better than we think. Or not since the quarterback starved Browns said no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I would love goff or wentz but there is no way I'm paying that price to end up with the next rg3. For all the love for these guys, rg3 was graded higher by most. Just an insane gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 The Eagles have really spent a lot of ammunition on the QB position this off season and last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I would think Cleveland takes him at 8 now Ding ding Lynch may go top 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jett Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Another thing, let's say Wentz and Goff were in last year's draft they would have been 3rd and 4th quarterback taken. All about timing I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Just now, shuler82 said: So the Eagles commit $25M to the QB position in 2016, and then trade away multiple picks and next year's first rounder to draft a QB. Okay. Look for Sam Bradford to be a Bronco. John Elway isn't going into the season with butt fumbler as his starting Qb. let see what the Eagles gets for him, and than we will examine just how crazy they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbt Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 has this ever happened before, the 1st and 2nd picks getting traded before the draft? another good haul for the team trading out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Doggin94it said: If by "good idea" you mean "horrible idea". I guess the Browns: (1) feel like Lynch is the equivalent of Goff/Wentz (seems crazy); and (2) are 100% convinced the 49ers won't take him at 7 (again, seems crazy) - or (3) are perfectly happy with Josh McCown as their QB of the future (that would be completely crazy). Meanwhile, the Eagles move up to take QB number 2 and will have insane money wrapped into their QB depth chart. This seems like the rare lose-lose deal Browns are going with an analytics approach. The amount of draft capital they just picked up to move the # 2 pick makes sense in light of that. They clearly don't view Goff or Wentz in such a high regard that they'd turn down multiple first rounders AND a 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: If by "good idea" you mean "horrible idea". I guess the Browns: (1) feel like Lynch is the equivalent of Goff/Wentz (seems crazy); and (2) are 100% convinced the 49ers won't take him at 7 (again, seems crazy) - or (3) are perfectly happy with Josh McCown as their QB of the future (that would be completely crazy). Meanwhile, the Eagles move up to take QB number 2 and will have insane money wrapped into their QB depth chart. This seems like the rare lose-lose deal Or maybe Cleveland wasn't sold on wentz and did the smart thing by trading down. Philly is hedging their bets here, if they come out of this with their franchise QB it will be worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: If by "good idea" you mean "horrible idea". I guess the Browns: (1) feel like Lynch is the equivalent of Goff/Wentz (seems crazy); and (2) are 100% convinced the 49ers won't take him at 7 (again, seems crazy) - or (3) are perfectly happy with Josh McCown as their QB of the future (that would be completely crazy). Meanwhile, the Eagles move up to take QB number 2 and will have insane money wrapped into their QB depth chart. This seems like the rare lose-lose deal They could also see potential in RGIII at quarterback. I think this is a good trade for the Browns... Get out of the perpetual cycle they are in by drafting first round bust quarterbacks (which is the most likely case) and build a team from the ground up. They gained a ton and only moved back 6 spots. I think that's a major win for Cleveland (wait, what?)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 phily gave up a 2017 1st rounder and a 2018 2nd rounder. wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, shuler82 said: So the Eagles commit $25M to the QB position in 2016, and then trade away multiple picks and next year's first rounder to draft a QB. Okay. lol, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Browns are going with an analytics approach. The amount of draft capital they just picked up to move the # 2 pick makes sense in light of that. They clearly don't view Goff or Wentz in such a high regard that they'd turn down multiple first rounders AND a 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounder. DiPodesta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 8 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: now we'll see who bites on lynch. The jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 And they said Chip Kelly doesn't know what he's doing! I'll take him over those clowns any day, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 1 minute ago, rillo said: The jets. they'd have to trade with baltimore or SF, if SF would take wilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: That assumes SF doesn't grab him at 7. I'd be surprised if they did, BPA would be hard to turn down considering they are a lock for one of tunsil/bosa/ramsey/jack/buckner now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Just now, cant wait said: I'd be surprised if they did, BPA would be hard to turn down considering they are a lock for one of tunsil/bosa/ramsey/jack/buckner now and then cleveland gets lynch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Just now, rillo said: The jets. I'm actually ok with that. He could turn out to be the best one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, shuler82 said: So the Eagles commit $25M to the QB position in 2016, and then trade away multiple picks and next year's first rounder to draft a QB. Okay. These salary cap "dimwits" are one of the reasons we had to deal with Fitzpatrick's outrageous demands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Just now, KRL said: These salary cap "dimwits" are one of the reasons we had to deal with Fitzpatrick's outrageous demands i guess that's why fitz had to resort to taking the subway to the ranger game last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, KRL said: These salary cap "dimwits" are one of the reasons we had to deal with Fitzpatrick's outrageous demands Gives me confidence Macc is smart, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: and then cleveland gets lynch. Bingo, although it may be a reach at 8 they've mitigated their risk with all the additional picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Gives me confidence Macc is smart, at least. but does smart get you a franchise qb, or does sheer desperation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjets Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Signing RG3 allowed this move to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 And that's exactly what I was against the Jets doing. That's a sh*t ton of picks for the 2nd best Qb in the draft. And it would have taken the Jets much more considering their 1st rounder is 12 spots after the Eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: but does smart get you a franchise qb, or does sheer desperation? Smart CAN get you a franchise QB. Sheer desperation NEVER gets you a QB. It just gets you to pay ridiculous sums to the likes of Brock Osweiler and Sam Bradford. Or maybe it gets you the QB you want in a draft but never allows you to be able to effectively build around him because of lack of draft capital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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