KRL Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Smart CAN get you a franchise QB. Sheer desperation NEVER gets you a QB. It just gets you to pay ridiculous sums to the likes of Brock Osweiler and Sam Bradford. Or maybe it gets you the QB you want in a draft but never allows you to be able to effectively build around him because of lack of draft capital. Exactly!!! Two dumb and desperate teams (HOU & PHI) paid outrageous $$$ to unproven QB's and have totally screwed up the salary market. And now PHI has to pay through the nose for a QB who isn't a definite to be the next Luck or Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Just now, KRL said: Exactly!!! Two dumb and desperate teams (HOU & PHI) paid outrageous $$$ to unproven QB's and have totally screwed up the salary market. And now PHI has to pay through the nose for a QB who isn't a definite to be the next Luck or Manning LA too. and the ripple effect is, the jets may get shut out of the top 3 or 4 qbs. i'm glad mccags didn't trade into the top 2, but now i'm wondering if he'll trade up at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Eagles just committed financial suicide. reminds me of the Nets-Celtics deal a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Just a question.....let's say Philly feels Joey Bosa is J.J Watt. Would you trade five picks to get him? Other than Brady and Rodgers, what other QB would you rather have than Watt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#bman Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 trade back! Grab the OLB Corea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Let's be real here both LA & PHI have paid HUGE prices for QB's who may be the next Mark Sanchez or Alex Smith. There is no way anyone is going to convince me that Goff & Wentz are "can't miss" prospects. What this may mean for the Jets is multiple players may fall to us at #20 because it seems like there may be a run on QB's above us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 1 minute ago, section314 said: Just a question.....let's say Philly feels Joey Bosa is J.J Watt. Would you trade five picks to get him? Other than Brady and Rodgers, what other QB would you rather have than Watt? Answer your own question. What have the Texans ever won with J.J Watt( as great as he is) . There is a reason they overpaid Osweiller - you don't have a Qb, you don't have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 It's not that long ago that Christian Ponder and EJ Manuel were first rounders and MIN & BUF swore they found their QB's. You better be convinced of what you're seeing when you make deals like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Jesus. This is crazy. Do they even know which QB will be on the board? I want a franchise QB as much as anyone, but I don't think it's worth some of the crazy sh*t going down here. Really hurts us if we were planning on going QB though. Hope we don't panic and move up too far for Lynch. Goff and Wentz aren't going to get a lot of help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 10 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Eagles just committed financial suicide. reminds me of the Nets-Celtics deal a bit. Actually the second year of bradfords deal makes a lot of sense now. If wentz is ready to take over Bradford becomes a tradeable asset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: Answer your own question. What have the Texans ever won with J.J Watt( as great as he is) . There is a reason they overpaid Osweiller - you don't have a Qb, you don't have a chance. My thought is this. I can't believe any team has equal grades on two QB's, and would be happy with either one.Throw in the fact that Eagles paid a king's ransom to move up, it makes me think either they really want Lynch, and are afraid he won't be there at 8, or want somebody non QB related(Bosa) who definitely wouldn't be there at 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, cant wait said: Actually the second year of bradfords deal makes a lot of sense now. If wentz is ready to take over Bradford becomes a tradeable asset Maybe so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian101193 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Just now, section314 said: My thought is this. I can't believe any team has equal grades on two QB's, and would be happy with either one.Throw in the fact that Eagles paid a king's ransom to move up, it makes me think either they really want Lynch, and are afraid he won't be there at 8, or want somebody non QB related(Bosa) who definitely wouldn't be there at 8. The Eagles chairman just said they're taking either Goff or Wentz, stop speculating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Adam SchefterVerified account@AdamSchefter Quarterback to watch for Cleveland: Paxton Lynch. We've done it before with Cleveland. About the same differential as well. 16 to 5 and 20 to 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 McShay's updated mock has the Jets taking Roger Podacter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbt Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Just now, TuscanyTile2 said: McShay's updated mock has the Jets taking Roger Podacter. alllllllllrighttttty then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 43 minutes ago, shuler82 said: So the Eagles commit $25M to the QB position in 2016, and then trade away multiple picks and next year's first rounder to draft a QB. Okay. As soon as I seen the news on Youtube that is literally the first thing that came to mine. I have to admit, this draft is shaping up to be one of the most exciting in a LONG time! Last year was pretty bland at that. We're a week away and we already have the top 2 picks moved for major draft picks. I really wish I was in the states for this draft. Would love to be at a bar with friends as this goes down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCEastFan Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 22 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Eagles just committed financial suicide. reminds me of the Nets-Celtics deal a bit. Seems even worse for the Eagles -- at least the crazy NBA lottery system insulates teams from their own stupidity to some degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 One of the recurring themes over the past two years is the apparent shortage of starting calibre QBs in the NFL. It does not appear that there are 32 of them. Thus, teams who want one are going to be aggressive about getting one. Paxton Lynch is by no means a sure thing, but he does have some resemblance to Flacco and Rothesberger, in terms of size, skill and experience. With RG III the Browns are in a perfect spot to pick Lynch, have him sit behind RG III for a year or two and then start. And pocket the extra picks. But that is only if someone with or without trading takes him first. But I don't think Paxton Lynch is making it past the top 10. I am not saying he is going to be great, but he is not making it past the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 The eagles gave up peanuts if Wentz turns into the equivalent of a Rothlesberger, Rivers, Manning etc. Whats a first round pick? A 50% chance you get the next Gholston, Kyle Wilson, Quinton Coples, Dee Milliner?!?!?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 So, the Browns and Titans now have the surplus to acquire Mo Wilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Cleveland is picking in the top 3 next year regardless of who they take. Probably #1. I think they pass on a QB and take local hero Elliott or Bosa at 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 52 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: or that the jets don't trade up with SF to get him. i think that's possible. Remember the rumors about Mo and SF. This could be a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Just now, 32EBoozer said: Remember the rumors about Mo and SF. This could be a possibility. especially since kap is still there. that trade makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Remember the rumors about Mo and SF. This could be a possibility. Sure hope so Man has sh*t ever gotten crazy inside the last 2 weeks. Seemed like the first round was going to be a static affair. Not anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I can't believe these trade-ups for QBs that don't come close to previous years QBs and guys that may not be able to start until their 2nd year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: I can't believe these trade-ups for QBs that don't come close to previous years QBs and guys that may not be able to start until their 2nd year. and guys who don't seem to have the upside of guys like bortles, carr, winston, i could go on. it just seems like some teams are so sick of having crap there is no price too high to get out of the qb sewer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 1 hour ago, C Mart said: Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) 4/20/16, 1:48 PM Eagles get Browns' second overall pick, 2017 4th-rd pick; Browns get eighth pick, 2016 3rd-rd, 4th-rd picks; 2017 1st-rd pick, 2018 2nd-rder I have a strong feeling that the Browns are going to move down again. They need WR's and they do not have to take one at #8. I think they're going to move down to like 14 or 15 and they're going to get Treadwell while picking up another high pick. The Browns are totally winning right now. Meanwhile, out in stupidville, the Eagles extend Bradford, sign their back up quality starter money and now they move up for a QB. Circus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 This tells me alittle bit about what teams think of Paxton Lynch. #Hypemachine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I tried to tell everyone, four to five QB's going in the first round. Lynch will be gone at seven or eight and cook before 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I don't think its as bad of a deal for thr Eagles as it seems. They have Bradford who they can potentially trade this or next year and get a lot of those picks back. Now for the Jets who don't have a player that can generate a return of the draft picks you gave up for the 2nd pick, the asking price was too high. I can see Philly unloading Bradford to San Fran (would Chip Kelly go after him again?) Denver, or Buffalo (Idk about their cap space though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Joe Jets fan said: I tried to tell everyone, four to five QB's going in the first round. Lynch will be gone at seven or eight and cook before 20. they're both good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Joe Jets fan said: I tried to tell everyone, four to five QB's going in the first round. Lynch will be gone at seven or eight and cook before 20. Im not too sure about that. It could be though, but honestly, giving up all of those picks when you could have had Lynch at 8? One thing about the QB position, either you go high or you start to slip. I think Cook has a better chance of going in the first than Lynch. I really dont see the hoopla with that kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 32 minutes ago, cant wait said: Actually the second year of bradfords deal makes a lot of sense now. If wentz is ready to take over Bradford becomes a tradeable asset He does? I was thinking the opposite. Next year he costs $17M to keep or you have to still pay him $4M for the privilege of cutting him. His trade value would be much higher without the extra $4M guaranteed. Then someone could just pick him up for $7M for this year and if you like (i.e. someone else materializes through the 2016-2017 draft or 2017 FA) then you're done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Just now, Villain The Foe said: Im not too sure about that. It could be though, but honestly, giving up all of those picks when you could have had Lynch at 8? One thing about the QB position, either you go high or you start to slip. I think Cook has a better chance of going in the first than Lynch. I really dont see the hoopla with that kid. FWIW, scouts inc. on espn has cook rated higher than lynch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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