"Official" 2016 Jetnation Mock Discussion Tread.

[Villain The Foe]

22 minutes ago, Dcat said:

He's been on-the-clock since 10pm last night.  I'd give him 20 more minutes and then robopick for him.  After that, find a replacement for him.  2 days in a row of not showing up should be enough to find  new GM. 

His teams: denver, Kansas City San Diego

We need an updated draft list so it's easier to see who's actually been drafted. 

[Lith]

Just now, Villain The Foe said:

We need an updated draft list so it's easier to see who's actually been drafted. 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kCslja7fLkZ5dD_sWR2inT5Qv31eCWR1Uz9-QW96bKE/edit?usp=sharing

Player Data sheet shows who has and has not been drafted.

[Dcat]

5 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

Chiefs might go WR here.  Sterling Shepard or Braxton Miller?

KC needs: OL, particularly tackle.  Alex Smith was sacked 45 times in 2015.  LT Fisher is on the last year of his expensive contract and although KC can elect a 5th year on it, they need to improve that line. They also could use a corner opposite Peters.  WR is a need too.

[Dcat]

1 minute ago, Villain The Foe said:

We need an updated draft list so it's easier to see who's actually been drafted. 

I use the spreadsheet to track. 

[Lith]

Top 100 prospects from draft sheet (rankings are a bit out of date, but it gives you an idea of who has already been drafted without needing to link to the sheet.

Overall Rank	Overall Pick #	Team	Avg Rank	Std Dev.	Full Name	Position	Height	Weight	College
1	3	San Diego Chargers	1.78	0.97	Laremy Tunsil	OT	6-5	305	Ole Miss
2	5	Jacksonville Jaguars	3.78	2.11	Joey Bosa	DE	6-5	275	Ohio State
3	4	Dallas Cowboys	3.78	4.02	Jalen Ramsey	CB	6-1	202	Florida State
4	6	Baltimore Ravens	4.89	3.37	Myles Jack	OLB	6-1	245	UCLA
5	10	New York Giants	7.11	3.30	DeForest Buckner	DE	6-7	290	Oregon
6	7	San Francisco 49ers	7.67	3.32	Ronnie Stanley	OT	6-6	315	Notre Dame
7	1	Los Angeles Rams	8.67	4.53	Jared Goff	QB	6-4	210	California
8	9	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	9.11	2.76	Vernon Hargreaves III	CB	5-11	199	Florida
9	8	Cleveland Browns	9.89	6.17	Ezekiel Elliott	RB	6-0	225	Ohio State
10	11	Chicago Bears	10.22	2.44	A'Shawn Robinson	DT	6-3	312	Alabama
11	2	Philadelphia Eagles	11.67	11.17	Carson Wentz	QB	6-5	231	North Dakota State
12	16	Detroit Lions	15.78	10.63	Laquon Treadwell	WR	6-2	210	Ole Miss
13	13	Miami Dolphins	16.11	9.48	Shaq Lawson	DE	6-3	270	Clemson
14	17	Atlanta Falcons	17.00	6.89	Reggie Ragland	ILB	6-2	252	Alabama
15	14	Oakland Raiders	18.00	4.33	Andrew Billings	DT	6-2	293	Baylor
16	12	New Orleans Saints	21.67	8.41	Darron Lee	OLB	6-1	235	Ohio State
17	34	Dallas Cowboys	21.67	7.50	Robert Nkemdiche	DT	6-3	296	Ole Miss
18	26	Seattle Seahawks	22.22	9.15	Noah Spence	OLB	6-3	261	Eastern Kentucky
19	25	Pittsburgh Steelers	23.22	8.32	Eli Apple	CB	6-1	200	Ohio State
20	21	Washington Redskins	23.44	10.50	Sheldon Rankins	DT	6-1	303	Louisville
21	15	Tennessee Titans	23.89	9.93	Jack Conklin	OT	6-6	318	Michigan State
22	38	Jacksonville Jaguars	24.11	13.51	Mackensie Alexander	CB	5-10	195	Clemson
23	19	Buffalo Bills	25.00	7.75	Paxton Lynch	QB	6-6	230	Memphis
24	20	New York Jets	26.00	10.74	Leonard Floyd	OLB	6-3	232	Georgia
25	27	Green Bay Packers	26.11	6.66	Jarran Reed	DT	6-3	313	Alabama
26	29	Arizona Cardinals	27.56	8.25	Emmanuel Ogbah	DE	6-3	275	Oklahoma State
27	22	Houston Texans	30.67	9.70	Vernon Butler	DT	6-3	309	Louisiana Tech
28	35	San Diego Chargers	31.44	7.88	Kevin Dodd	DE	6-5	277	Clemson
29	23	Minnesota Vikings	31.44	10.99	Taylor Decker	OT	6-7	315	Ohio State
30	40	New York Giants	31.67	12.38	Will Fuller	WR	6-0	184	Notre Dame
31	33	Tennessee Titans	32.00	7.57	Derrick Henry	RB	6-2	242	Alabama
32	28	Kansas City Chiefs	33.11	8.57	William Jackson III	CB	6-1	195	Houston
33	46	Detroit Lions	33.56	9.53	Kenny Clark	DT	6-2	310	UCLA
34	36	Baltimore Ravens	33.56	10.45	Corey Coleman	WR	5-10	190	Baylor
35	24	Cincinnati Bengals	34.22	7.98	Josh Doctson	WR	6-2	195	TCU
36	18	Indianapolis Colts	37.22	3.70	Jonathan Bullard	DE	6-3	283	Florida
37	47	New Orleans Saints	37.33	11.54	Cody Whitehair	OG	6-4	309	Kansas State
38	41	Chicago Bears	41.67	20.90	Kendall Fuller	CB	6-0	197	Virginia Tech
39	37	San Francisco 49ers	42.11	34.31	Jaylon Smith	OLB	6-3	240	Notre Dame
40	44	Oakland Raiders	43.11	15.71	Hunter Henry	TE	6-5	253	Arkansas
41	54	Minnesota Vikings	43.67	15.18	Shilique Calhoun	DE	6-5	252	Michigan State
42	32	Cleveland Browns	44.89	23.90	Jason Spriggs	OT	6-6	305	Indiana
43	31	Denver Broncos	45.33	8.93	Connor Cook	QB	6-4	220	Michigan State
44	49	Buffalo Bills	47.78	9.65	Michael Thomas	WR	6-3	210	Ohio State
45			48.22	12.91	Tyler Boyd	WR	6-2	200	Pittsburgh
46	55	Cincinnati Bengals	50.44	19.65	Chris Jones	DT	6-5	308	Mississippi State
47	52	Houston Texans	51.56	17.21	Su'a Cravens	OLB	6-1	225	Southern California
48	51	New York Jets	53.11	10.56	Shon Coleman	OT	6-6	313	Auburn
49	48	Indianapolis Colts	53.22	17.38	Ryan Kelly	C	6-4	297	Alabama
50	39	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	54.22	15.99	Germain Ifedi	OT	6-5	325	Texas A&M
51	53	Washington Redskins	56.22	26.36	Jeremy Cash	S	6-1	208	Duke
52			56.56	25.89	Adolphus Washington	DT	6-4	290	Ohio State
53	45	Tennessee Titans	59.11	12.78	Vonn Bell	S	5-11	205	Ohio State
54			60.00	18.21	Austin Johnson	DT	6-3	325	Penn State
55			60.00	18.72	Braxton Miller	WR	6-1	215	Ohio State
56			61.11	21.58	Sterling Shepard	WR	5-10	193	Oklahoma
57			61.22	12.31	Kyler Fackrell	OLB	6-5	250	Utah State
58			64.11	16.90	Carl Nassib	DE	6-6	270	Penn State
59			65.44	13.11	Alex Collins	RB	5-11	218	Arkansas
60	43	Tennessee Titans	65.56	14.77	Artie Burns	CB	6-0	193	Miami (Fla.)
61	50	Atlanta Falcons	65.89	20.10	Joshua Garnett	OG	6-4	321	Stanford
62	57	Green Bay Packers	66.00	16.70	Kentrell Brothers	ILB	6-0	238	Missouri
63			67.33	34.49	Darian Thompson	S	6-2	210	Boise State
64			67.67	17.36	Jordan Jenkins	OLB	6-2	253	Georgia
65			70.22	14.86	Pharoh Cooper	WR	5-11	208	South Carolina
66			70.89	29.02	Vadal Alexander	OG	6-5	329	LSU
67	56	Seattle Seahawks	71.00	15.98	Kenneth Dixon	RB	5-10	212	Louisiana Tech
68			71.33	32.86	Jalen Mills	S	6-0	196	LSU
69			71.78	15.59	Austin Hooper	TE	6-3	248	Stanford
70			74.33	17.48	Nick Martin	C	6-4	302	Notre Dame
71			75.22	16.90	Devontae Booker	RB	5-11	212	Utah
72			75.89	35.51	Joshua Perry	OLB	6-4	254	Ohio State
73	30	Carolina Panthers	76.11	18.03	Karl Joseph	S	5-11	197	West Virginia
74			77.89	22.94	Jerald Hawkins	OT	6-6	305	LSU
75			78.00	16.16	Landon Turner	OG	6-3	325	North Carolina
76			79.56	18.85	Shawn Oakman	DE	6-8	276	Baylor
77			80.67	16.68	Nick Vannett	TE	6-6	260	Ohio State
78	58	Pittsburgh Steelers	81.33	27.86	Kamalei Correa	OLB	6-3	245	Boise State
79			81.33	32.12	Le'Raven Clark	OT	6-5	316	Texas Tech
80			81.56	20.89	Rashard Higgins	WR	6-2	188	Colorado State
81			82.11	23.47	Xavien Howard	CB	6-1	200	Baylor
82			82.11	16.53	Will Redmond	CB	5-11	186	Mississippi State
83			84.00	44.51	Bronson Kaufusi	DE	6-6	265	Brigham Young
84			84.44	29.32	Sheldon Day	DT	6-1	285	Notre Dame
85			84.78	27.73	Jordan Howard	RB	6-1	225	Indiana
86			86.56	28.05	Scooby Wright III	ILB	6-0	246	Arizona
87			87.00	38.91	Christian Westerman	OG	6-3	302	Arizona State
88			87.22	21.81	Maliek Collins	DT	6-2	300	Nebraska
89			88.00	33.25	Deion Jones	OLB	6-1	228	LSU
90			88.56	28.62	Jihad Ward	DT	6-5	295	Illinois
91			89.11	33.91	Miles Killebrew	S	6-2	223	Southern Utah
92			92.00	19.97	Zack Sanchez	CB	5-11	180	Oklahoma
93			92.11	37.55	Paul Perkins	RB	5-10	210	UCLA
94			94.44	31.34	Christian Hackenberg	QB	6-4	236	Penn State
95			96.44	30.57	Jack Allen	C	6-2	298	Michigan State
96			97.00	20.09	Dominique Alexander	ILB	6-0	224	Oklahoma
97			98.11	27.13	Sebastian Tretola	OG	6-5	334	Arkansas
98	42	Miami Dolphins	99.22	63.34	Keanu Neal	S	6-1	216	Florida
99			99.33	33.15	Kyle Murphy	OT	6-7	302	Stanford
100			103.22	42.68	Leonte Carroo	WR	6-0	205	Rutgers

[Villain The Foe]

1 minute ago, Lith said:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kCslja7fLkZ5dD_sWR2inT5Qv31eCWR1Uz9-QW96bKE/edit?usp=sharing

Player Data sheet shows who has and has not been drafted.

Thanks. Im about to make Patriots Pick. Im also taking over the teams so we no longer have to wait. 

[Villain The Foe]

1 minute ago, Dcat said:

I use the spreadsheet to track. 

Thanks

[Lith]

Just now, Villain The Foe said:

Thanks. Im about to make Patriots Pick. Im also taking over the teams so we no longer have to wait. 

I only have one team, I would be happy to take over another if it would help out. 

[Dcat]

KC:  I like Tyler Boyd WR or LeRaven Clark for OT at this spot.

[Villain The Foe]

6 minutes ago, Dcat said:

I use the spreadsheet to track. 

I never used the spreadsheet. I thought you were copying/pasting and updating inside the thread. The sheet is much easier though. 

 

KC picked WR Tyler Boyd, 

[Dcat]

Villain, you shouldn't have to take over those teams.  The burden shouldn't be entirely on you.

[Villain The Foe]

Just now, Dcat said:

Villain, you shouldn't have to take over those teams.  The burden shouldn't be entirely on you.

It's cool. Im online so it'll run faster. You want to split the teams with me? 

[Villain The Foe]

7 minutes ago, Lith said:

I only have one team, I would be happy to take over another if it would help out. 

Okay, you got Denver. 

If @Dcat wants he can have San Diego and since I just picked for KC I can keep the chiefs.

[Lith]

 

Just now, Villain The Foe said:

Okay, you got Denver. 

If @Dcat wants he can have San Diego and since I just picked for KC I can keep the chiefs.

OK, Thanks.  KC is done now anyway unless we add a 4th round -- they forfeited their 3rd.

[Dcat]

Lith wants one.  I already have 3.  But I'll take another if no one else wants one. I don't think I did the Redskins justice last night cause I didn't do much to check out their needs and I work in the evenings.  Much more in tune with Houston and the Jets from my other mocks

[Dcat]

we'll be able to do 4 rounds between now and Thursday afternoon for sure. 

[Villain The Foe]

2 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Lith wants one.  I already have 3.  But I'll take another if no one else wants one. I don't think I did the Redskins justice last night cause I didn't do much to check out their needs and I work in the evenings.  Much more in tune with Houston and the Jets from my other mocks

I'll take the 3rd team. The chiefs have no 3rd round pick so I can take the Chargers. I only have 2 teams myself (Browns, Panthers). 

 

Thanks for the help guys. I dont know what's going on with PatriotKilla. Usually he's on. He logged in earlier today but didnt make his pick. 

[Lith]

1 minute ago, Villain The Foe said:

I'll take the 3rd team. The chiefs have no 3rd round pick so I can take the Chargers. I only have 2 teams myself (Browns, Panthers). 

 

Thanks for the help guys. I dont know what's going on with PatriotKilla. Usually he's on. He logged in earlier today but didnt make his pick. 

I will give PatriotKilla about 30 minutes when Denver comes back on the clock.  If he doesn't make the pick, then I will step in. 

[Villain The Foe]

6 minutes ago, Lith said:

I will give PatriotKilla about 30 minutes when Denver comes back on the clock.  If he doesn't make the pick, then I will step in. 

okay. Lupz sent me his picks already for the Patriots and I just posted them. Im about to figure out my Carolina situation then the Broncos will be on the clock. 

[Villain The Foe]

Panthers have completely revamped their secondary. Karl Joseph and now Xavien Howard. 

 

Thats not even fair.  

[Dcat]

12 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

okay. Lupz sent me his picks already for the Patriots and I just posted them. Im about to figure out my Carolina situation then the Broncos will be on the clock. 

Hackenburg?  really?  What are they going to do with both Hack and Garopollo?  Trade Garoppolo like they did with other useless Brady Backups?

FWIW, if Hackeburg dropped to the Jets in round 3, he would have been the pick there.

[Villain The Foe]

1 minute ago, Dcat said:

Hackenburg?  really?  What are they going to do with both Hack and Garopollo?  Trade Garoppolo like they did with other useless Brady Backups?

FWIW, if Hackeburg dropped to the Jets in round 3, he would have been the pick there.

Garop is probably trade bait next year. 

 

Speaking of Trade bait, a guy that I havent heard 1 word about (but who I think could possibly play) is Ryan Nassib. The Giants are absolutely silent about Nassib. His last two preseasons were pretty good. 

 

Oh, and im going to pretend like I didnt see you make that Hackenberg comment. #3rdRounderForGlennon lol. 

[Villain The Foe]

@Powpow Kentrell Brothers is my sleeper this year. I havent heard any of the talking heads even mention his name. 

He's a good football player, good pick. 

[JustInFudge]

I forgot the Cards traded their 2nd rounder.  haha

[Villain The Foe]

@Lith You're on the clock. No need to wait. We'll just take care of the picks. 

[Lith]

14 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

@Lith You're on the clock. No need to wait. We'll just take care of the picks. 

Yup.  Was just coming in to make the pick.  Needed the time to figure out what direction to go for Denver.  Might be about a half round early for Westerman, but Denver lost Mathis to free agency and have only 1 OG who has ever been on the field for a regular season snap on their roster.  He would be able to compete with Robert Myers for the starting OG spot opposite Max Garcia. A bit undersized for a guard by today's standards, but he has the strength (34 reps on the bench at the combine) to help make up for that.  Similar size to Mathis, the guy he could replace.

[Patriot Killa]

someone can take my place.. i didnt realize that i wouldnt have enough time to do it. hate to keep you guys waiting every pick.

[Sarge4Tide]

The Jaguars are up next, they took DE and CB in the 1st 2 rounds but I have a defensive player on the top of my current board, head and shoulders above the next offensive player.  Should the Jags go defensive in all 3 of the 1st rounds?

[Villain The Foe]

6 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

The Jaguars are up next, they took DE and CB in the 1st 2 rounds but I have a defensive player on the top of my current board, head and shoulders above the next offensive player.  Should the Jags go defensive in all 3 of the 1st rounds?

Really? 

I think my next offensive pick for the Browns will be pretty epic in the years to come. 

[Lupz27]

2 hours ago, Dcat said:

Hackenburg?  really?  What are they going to do with both Hack and Garopollo?  Trade Garoppolo like they did with other useless Brady Backups?

FWIW, if Hackeburg dropped to the Jets in round 3, he would have been the pick there.

The thinking here is Jimmy G plays the first 4 games looks great, Pats get a 2nd rounder for him (he would be a FA unless tagged after 2017), now Hackenberg will be around for 4 years, already knows the Pats offense, and would be ready to step in when Brady hangs them up.

[Dcat]

2 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

The thinking here is Jimmy G plays the first 4 games looks great, Pats get a 2nd rounder for him (he would be a FA unless tagged after 2017), now Hackenberg will be around for 4 years, already knows the Pats offense, and would be ready to step in when Brady hangs them up.

OK.  That is logical. Not going to help the Pats win now and I would think with Brady's suspension and age that they'd be in a little more win now mode than usual.

[JustInFudge]

40 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

The Jaguars are up next, they took DE and CB in the 1st 2 rounds but I have a defensive player on the top of my current board, head and shoulders above the next offensive player.  Should the Jags go defensive in all 3 of the 1st rounds?

Yes.  They're loaded on offense. 

[JustInFudge]

2 hours ago, Patriot Killa said:

someone can take my place.. i didnt realize that i wouldnt have enough time to do it. hate to keep you guys waiting every pick.

Has someone stepped up and taken this?  I can.  Especially since the Cards only have 2 picks and my next one is a long ways away.

 

[Lith]

2nd Round Complete:

2	32	590	Cleveland Browns	Villain	Jason Spriggs	OT	Indiana
2	33	580	Tennessee Titans	Mick	Derrick Henry	RB	Alabama
2	34	560	Dallas Cowboys	Sarge	Robert Nkemdiche	DT	Ole Miss
2	35	550	San Diego Chargers	Villain	Kevin Dodd	DE	Clemson
2	36	540	Baltimore Ravens	Matt39	Corey Coleman	WR	Baylor
2	37	530	San Francisco 49ers	32EBoozer	Jaylon Smith	OLB	Notre Dame
2	38	520	Jacksonville Jaguars	Sarge	Mackensie Alexander	CB	Clemson
2	39	510	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	32EBoozer	Germain Ifedi	OT	Texas A&M
2	40	500	New York Giants	T0mShane	Will Fuller	WR	Notre Dame
2	41	490	Chicago Bears	NYJetsVets91	Kendall Fuller	CB	Virginia Tech
2	42	480	Miami Dolphins	T0mShane	Keanu Neal	S	Florida
2	43	470	Tennessee Titans	Mick	Artie Burns	CB	Miami (Fla.)
2	44	460	Oakland Raiders	SenorGato	Hunter Henry	TE	Arkansas
2	45	450	Tennessee Titans	Mick	Vonn Bell	S	Ohio State
2	46	440	Detroit Lions	SenorGato	Kenny Clark	DT	UCLA
2	47	430	New Orleans Saints	Sarge	Cody Whitehair	OG	Kansas State
2	48	420	Indianapolis Colts	SenorGato	Ryan Kelly	C	Alabama
2	49	410	Buffalo Bills	Mick	Michael Thomas	WR	Ohio State
2	50	400	Atlanta Falcons	Mick	Joshua Garnett	OG	Stanford
2	51	390	New York Jets	Dcat	Shon Coleman	OT	Auburn
2	52	380	Houston Texans	Dcat	Su'a Cravens	OLB	Southern California
2	53	370	Washington Redskins	Dcat	Jeremy Cash	S	Duke
2	54	360	Minnesota Vikings	JetinCincy	Shilique Calhoun	DE	Michigan State
2	55	350	Cincinnati Bengals	JetinCincy	Chris Jones	DT	Mississippi State
2	56	340	Seattle Seahawks	T0mShane	Kenneth Dixon	RB	Louisiana Tech
2	57	330	Green Bay Packers	Powpow	Kentrell Brothers	ILB	Missouri
2	58	320	Pittsburgh Steelers	Lith	Kamalei Correa	OLB	Boise State
2	59	310	Kansas City Chiefs	PatriotKilla	Tyler Boyd	WR	Pittsburgh
2	60	300	New England Patriots	Lupz27	Christian Hackenberg	QB	Penn State
2	61	292	New England Patriots	Lupz27	Yannick Ngakoue	OLB	Maryland
2	62	284	Carolina Panthers	Villain	Xavien Howard	CB	Baylor
2	63	276	Denver Broncos	Lith	Christian Westerman	OG	Arizona State

[Villain The Foe]

@T0mShane You thinking Scooby could be Zach Thomas part 2 huh? lol.