32EBoozer Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 #1)SF 49ers Fans very discontent on the events of the last yr. Market for 49ers tickets and PSLs is “plummeting” Posted by Mike Florio on April 18, 2016, 12:47 PM EDT Getty Images The 49ers once again are proving that winning draws fans to the games, and that losing drives them away. According to C.W. Nevius of the San Francisco Chronicle (via SportsBusiness Daily), the market for tickets and Personal Seat Licenses has been “plummeting.” Currently, a total of 1,825 PSLs (consisting of 4,601 seats) are available, with dozens priced below market value. When the new stadium opened, tickets were completely sold out and a waiting list existed for PSLs and season tickets. Per the report, some fans that financed their PSL purchases over 10 years are thinking about “stopping payments and walking away.” While the 49ers would have the right to enforce the PSL payments, Nevius raises a great question: What would the 49ers do if a large number of PSL holders simultaneously walk away? Sue all of them? Regardless, things are looking suddenly ordinary for an organization that, not long ago, was moving back toward elite status. $52m in Cap Space and need Defensive Help Missed out on Josh Norman so they're not fraid to spend money. Mo would supply instant help as they only have Arik Armstead, 30 yr. old Glenn Dorsey and JAG Quinten Dial Trent Baalke is about to be out of a Job Needs to create some excitement. Signed only 1 FA this yr.... Zane Beadles to a 3/$9.7m deal #2 Jacksonville Jaguars $58m in Cap Space 24th in total Defense 2015 Since Caldwell became GM in 2013 4-12; 3-13; 5-11 He won't see 2017 unless he gets to .500 this yr. Last yr. for Jared Odrick. Lineup Brick opposite Malik Jackson and Fowler OLB Shad Khan Newly renovated Waterfront Office and Residential Development and Pools in the stadium Shad Khan=Mohammed Wilkerson #3 Chicago Bears $22m Cap Space 22nd in Team Defense 9 Draft Picks Ton of Cap Space 2017 #4 Tennessee Titans 18th in run defense Boatload of picks & $29m in Cap Space Three 2nd rd. picks 33; 43; 45 Dick LeBeau and with Morgan and Orakpo you need a 3-4 DE to set edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 This is getting very concerning. It would be almost impossible to pull off a draft night trade with out the trade partner negotiating with Mo. I haven't heard even any rumors that is going on. I thought maybe the Titans would be interested, they've got the fires power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, flgreen said: This is getting very concerning. It would be almost impossible to pull off a draft night trade with out the trade partner negotiating with Mo. I haven't heard even any rumors that is going on. I thought maybe the Titans would be interested, they've got the fires power. Mac must have run some scenarios by Mo's agent for teams that Mo would go to.. Otherwise you couldn't make any draft day deals.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, flgreen said: This is getting very concerning. It would be almost impossible to pull off a draft night trade with out the trade partner negotiating with Mo. I haven't heard even any rumors that is going on. I thought maybe the Titans would be interested, they've got the fires power. Stay strong.... this is the week. Someone will cave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Savage69 said: Mac must have run some scenarios by Mo's agent for teams that Mo would go to.. Otherwise you couldn't make any draft day deals.. Hard to hammer out a 75 million dollar deal in 12 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Mac must have run some scenarios by Mo's agent for teams that Mo would go to.. Otherwise you couldn't make any draft day deals.. Bingo, Mo is untradable without long-term deal in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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32EBoozer Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Savage69 said: Mac must have run some scenarios by Mo's agent for teams that Mo would go to.. Otherwise you couldn't make any draft day deals.. Agreed. Mo and his agents have been very quiet.... makes you think that they've been working with Mac to get something done with a team that will pay him Might be dependent on how Draft plays out. If a team misses out on their guy.... plan "B". Trade with Jets and Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 17 minutes ago, Savage69 said: Mac must have run some scenarios by Mo's agent for teams that Mo would go to.. Otherwise you couldn't make any draft day deals.. How many draft day deals involving tagged players have gone down in the last few years? I honestly don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 19 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: Agreed. Mo and his agents have been very quiet.... makes you think that they've been working with Mac to get something done with a team that will pay him Might be dependent on how Draft plays out. If a team misses out on their guy.... plan "B". Trade with Jets and Mo Could be, I hope so. Hate to see Mo go, it would make me crazy if he walks for no return next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 What about Carolina as a potential trade partner? They have over $30 million in cap space since rescinding the tag on Norman. Jared Allen retired and Mo would be an instant upgrade over Charles Johnson, who is getting up in years and was just re-signed on a one year deal. Could possibly be a fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Could be, I hope so. Hate to see Mo go, it would make me crazy if he walks for no return next year Jets would get a 3rd round comp pick next year if Mo walks as a FA. Unless the Jets sign a bunch of over-priced, JAG FA's next year because they have a ton of cap space. Losing a top 3 DLineman, in the prime of his career, for a 6th round comp pick would be hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, Lith said: What about Carolina as a potential trade partner? They have over $30 million in cap space since rescinding the tag on Norman. Jared Allen retired and Mo would be an instant upgrade over Charles Johnson, who is getting up in years and was just re-signed on a one year deal. Could possibly be a fit. Late round 1st. I'd need to have that deal completed b4 Draft to allow me some flexibility during the Draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Don't rule out the Colts, Grigson is a neanderthal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Jets would get a 3rd round comp pick next year if Mo walks as a FA. Unless the Jets sign a bunch of over-priced, JAG FA's next year because they have a ton of cap space. Losing a top 3 DLineman, in the prime of his career, for a 6th round comp pick would be hilarious. If Mo has another 12 sack season and plays tough against the run, Jets may actually sign him to a LT deal after the draft(if there are no suitors) Perhaps then they decide to trade Sheldon and his 5th yr. option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: Late round 1st. I'd need to have that deal completed b4 Draft to allow me some flexibility during the Draft. That's why Macc makes the big bucks. What do you do if you have a deal on the table for a late first, and a team like Chicago is interested, but only if their guy comes off the board before 11. Do you pull the trigger for the late first while you have time to maneuver or do you wait and hope the better deal can be made on draft day. Thursday can't get here fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Jets would get a 3rd round comp pick next year if Mo walks as a FA. Unless the Jets sign a bunch of over-priced, JAG FA's next year because they have a ton of cap space. Losing a top 3 DLineman, in the prime of his career, for a 6th round comp pick would be hilarious. Oh yeah kind of like what the Pats did with a guy who had 30 sacks in 3 years and traded him for the 61 st pick in the draft. Gotcha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 Just now, Lith said: That's why Macc makes the big bucks. What do you do if you have a deal on the table for a late first, and a team like Chicago is interested, but only if their guy comes off the board before 11. Do you pull the trigger for the late first while you have time to maneuver or do you wait and hope the better deal can be made on draft day. Thursday can't get here fast enough. Can't remember a Draft where there has been so much action in advance of the draft. Add to that Norman Tag withdrawal and this is crazy. I'd have to wait and see what happens with Bears at #11. I'd certainly have Mo's agent working out preliminary details with Carolina and the Bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 If Mo has another 12 sack season and plays tough against the run, Jets may actually sign him to a LT deal after the draft(if there are no suitors) Perhaps then they decide to trade Sheldon and his 5th yr. option Jets should have signed him to a long-term contract last year when they had the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Oh yeah kind of like what the Pats did with a guy who had 30 sacks in 3 years and traded him for the 61 st pick in the draft. Gotcha That's a 2nd round pick in a very deep draft 30-80. Jets won't come close to getting that for Mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 33 minutes ago, flgreen said: Could be, I hope so. Hate to see Mo go, it would make me crazy if he walks for no return next year They can franchise him again next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 I'm pretty sure MoWilk's agent has talked to all of these team so there are probably tentative agreements in place. now to talk about the teams that have the cap space. First, SF is not solving their attendance issues by trading a top ten pick for a 3-4 DE. It means they need a new QB. I think they went all in for Goff and Wentz. As of a couple of days ago, they hadn't even met with Lynch. Jax is not trading out of the top 5. Chicago's GM already said they had zero interest in trading their #1 pick for Mo. our best bet would be trading for hopefully #2 and change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Just now, C Mart said: They can franchise him again next season. For 20% more. Your getting into franchise QB money now. Pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 If he doesn't get dealt this week then we tag him (although at a really high rate) again next season and deal him before the draft 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 1 minute ago, flgreen said: For 20% more. Your getting into franchise QB money now. Pass It's better than letting him walk for nothing which was your original concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 1 minute ago, C Mart said: It's better than letting him walk for nothing which was your original concern. No it's not. I would take the damn franchise tag off him now. I know Mac has said he won't do that, and I believe there could be a draft day trade in the works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 10 minutes ago, C Mart said: It's better than letting him walk for nothing which was your original concern. That is a present concern, but the alternative of paying Mo close to $20,000,000 for a 3-4 DE, would rapidly over come that. IMO the 2nd franchise tag wouldn't be an option unless he was a consistent 16 + sack guy . JMO. I'm still concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ex-Rex said: No it's not. I would take the damn franchise tag off him now. I know Mac has said he won't do that, and I believe there could be a draft day trade in the works. Ok then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 9 minutes ago, Pcola said: I'm pretty sure MoWilk's agent has talked to all of these team so there are probably tentative agreements in place. now to talk about the teams that have the cap space. First, SF is not solving their attendance issues by trading a top ten pick for a 3-4 DE. It means they need a new QB. I think they went all in for Goff and Wentz. As of a couple of days ago, they hadn't even met with Lynch. Jax is not trading out of the top 5. Chicago's GM already said they had zero interest in trading their #1 pick for Mo. our best bet would be trading for hopefully #2 and change. Never would expect Pick #5 for an $80m contract. Their high 2nd (#38) would be something the Jets might consider. We'll see soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 It's better than letting him walk for nothing which was your original concern. That's $19MM for another 1-year rental. Are the Jets one DLineman away from contending for the Super Bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 any of those teams can just draft a guy a trade is possible, I'm not ruling it out, but it is very unlikley at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 22 minutes ago, Pcola said: I'm pretty sure MoWilk's agent has talked to all of these team so there are probably tentative agreements in place. now to talk about the teams that have the cap space. First, SF is not solving their attendance issues by trading a top ten pick for a 3-4 DE. It means they need a new QB. I think they went all in for Goff and Wentz. As of a couple of days ago, they hadn't even met with Lynch. Jax is not trading out of the top 5. Chicago's GM already said they had zero interest in trading their #1 pick for Mo. our best bet would be trading for hopefully #2 and change. Yes being a non exclusive tagged player he can talk to anyone at all can he not? Hell he can even sign with anyone if they want to give us two 1st rounders which isn't going to happen. If he gets dealt it will not be for a 1st outright, it will either be a swap of an earlier pick for the jets pick plus something else or just a combo of picks, 2nd, 3rd, 4th rounders type of package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 The Jets will probably give up Mo and the #20 pick to acquire a top 10 pick in the draft and maybe a later round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 41 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: If Mo has another 12 sack season and plays tough against the run, Jets may actually sign him to a LT deal after the draft(if there are no suitors) Perhaps then they decide to trade Sheldon and his 5th yr. option Jones had a 12 sack season for the Pats and they traded him.. And he had the same amount of sacks total that Mo did playing one less year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: The Jets will probably give up Mo and the #20 pick to acquire a top 10 pick in the draft and maybe a later round pick. Can't imagine giving up all that to draft Lynch. Tenn. 15th pick for Mo. would be astounding. Take Treadwell and Floyd @20 Would rather get 2 or 3 later rd. picks for Mo straight up than swap picks for Lynch Tenn. 33 & 64 SF 37, 68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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