Jetlag Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Being young I've missed many of the great linebackers to play for the Jets. In fact the only great Jet LB I really got to see was Mo Lewis. When it comes down to it will Jon Vilma be the best of the best when it comes to Jets LB? I think he easily has the potential to be there. Everyone can see it, including Pats fans. This kids natural leadership and ability as a rookie was uncanny. When it's all said and done I think he could be a HOFer. Although most likely not the GOAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 he will absolutely be the best jets LB.... i was listening to 1050am on my way home and they were saying he'll even be better than BUTTLE....i dont remember him playing though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 He's got a loooong way to go before he gets into Joe Mott territory, buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Being young I've missed many of the great linebackers to play for the Jets. In fact the only great Jet LB I really got to see was Mo Lewis. When it comes down to it will Jon Vilma be the best of the best when it comes to Jets LB? I think he easily has the potential to be there. Everyone can see it, including Pats fans. This kids natural leadership and ability as a rookie was uncanny. When it's all said and done I think he could be a HOFer. Although most likely not the GOAT. For crying out loud lag, you are starting to sound like the typical uninformed Jet fan. You are already putting Vilma in the HOF? Vilma had a great rookie season. Even Pats fans can not deny that. But all in all, it is only one year. Let's see what happens when teams start to game plan putting a body on Vilma. He pretty much ran free last year and his athletic ability took over. I'm not knocking the guy (actually he'd be a great fit for the Pats) but let him play a few years before you induct him into Canton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 P.s. I forgot that writing about Shane being gay instantly gets you 10 replies so... -Why was that homo, TomShane, fired from the sperm bank? -He was caught drinking on the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 P.s. I forgot that writing about Shane being gay instantly gets you 10 replies so... quote] Hey lag, when are you going to get rid of Buggs Bunny in your avatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Damn you LAG!!! Consider yourself on "THE LIST" buddy! THE LIST!!!!!! P.s. I forgot that writing about Shane being gay instantly gets you 10 replies so... -Why was that homo, TomShane, fired from the sperm bank? -He was caught drinking on the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 For crying out loud lag, you are starting to sound like the typical uninformed Jet fan. You are already putting Vilma in the HOF? Vilma had a great rookie season. Even Pats fans can not deny that. But all in all, it is only one year. Let's see what happens when teams start to game plan putting a body on Vilma. He pretty much ran free last year and his athletic ability took over. I'm not knocking the guy (actually he'd be a great fit for the Pats) but let him play a few years before you induct him into Canton. It's much more fun to make guesses now and then in the future you can tell people you knew it'd happen. And if it doesn't happen, no one will remember you said it in the first place. Yea the HOF thing was there to sucker some Pats fan in. Although I actually think he'll be a HOFer like any homer fan would. I still understand the amount of work he has to do before it's a reality. Here's a more reasonable question for you Tx. If you have to name the top 10 linebackers for next season, do you include Vilma in that list, according to how you think they'll play in '05? (no order) Lewis Spikes Bruschi (is he even going to play?) Suggs Peterson Porter Farrior (I think this was a fluke season for him.) There aren't as many great linebackers around these days. Vilma could easily be in that group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 IMO, you have to separate them into OLB and ILB, Lag. You can't compare what Ray Lewis does to what Joey Porter does--they're totally different positions. Nitwit. It's much more fun to make guesses now and then in the future you can tell people you knew it'd happen. And if it doesn't happen, no one will remember you said it in the first place. Yea the HOF thing was there to sucker some Pats fan in. Although I actually think it I still understand the amount of work he has to do before it's a reality. Here's a more reasonable question for you Tx. If you have to name the top 10 linebackers for next season, do you include Vilma in that list, according to how you think they'll play in '05? (no order) Lewis Spikes Bruschi (is he even going to play?) Suggs Peterson Porter Farrior (I think this was a fluke season for him.) There aren't as many great linebackers around these days. Vilma could easily be in that group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 IMO, you have to separate them into OLB and ILB, Lag. You can't compare what Ray Lewis does to what Joey Porter does--they're totally different positions. Nitwit. Why not? When you ask the question "Who was the best player of all time" you have to take into account players are in different positions. Alright slick, will there be 3 ILB's who'll be better then Vilma next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I don't know. I haven't really thought about it. I just wanted to taunt you. Why not? When you ask the question "Who was the best player of all time" you have to take into account players are in different positions. Alright slick, will there be 3 ILB's who'll be better then Vilma next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 It's much more fun to make guesses now and then in the future you can tell people you knew it'd happen. And if it doesn't happen, no one will remember you said it in the first place. Yea the HOF thing was there to sucker some Pats fan in. Although I actually think he'll be a HOFer like any homer fan would. I still understand the amount of work he has to do before it's a reality. Here's a more reasonable question for you Tx. If you have to name the top 10 linebackers for next season, do you include Vilma in that list, according to how you think they'll play in '05? (no order) Lewis Spikes Bruschi (is he even going to play?) Suggs Peterson Porter Farrior (I think this was a fluke season for him.) There aren't as many great linebackers around these days. Vilma could easily be in that group. Lag, TS brings up a very good point about separating ILB from OLB, totally two different positions and two different skill sets. But to answer your question, yes, I think Vilma would have to be considered in the top 10 going into next year based on his outstanding performance this past year. As for Bruschi, I hope he hangs them up and walks away from the game. That was pretty hard to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 One season is not a career, the potential is there to be one of if not the best. Remember Chief Wahoo McDanial!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Dude, Bruschi has gone a hell of a lot farther than he had any reason to expect. The Lord works in mysterious ways. Great player, alot of heart, and some great memories. Now he'll go out and become a Boston icon, probably get the asst. coaching gig with Beli, and then he'll be groomed to be a nice DC some day. Good for him, but I agree with you, it's tough to lose a player like that from the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 He can be the best LB to ever play for the Jets and if he just continues to get better and better after this past years rookie season then he most definitley will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Dude, Bruschi has gone a hell of a lot farther than he had any reason to expect. The Lord works in mysterious ways. Great player, alot of heart, and some great memories. Now he'll go out and become a Boston icon, probably get the asst. coaching gig with Beli, and then he'll be groomed to be a nice DC some day. Good for him, but I agree with you, it's tough to lose a player like that from the sport. Hell, you're even sensible on the new board. Word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Now he'll go out and become a Boston icon, probably get the asst. coaching gig with Beli, and then he'll be groomed to be a nice DC some day. i don't think he will allowed to put himself in the pressure cooker that is the NFL again - either as a coach or a player - donnie henderson's blood pressure is probably obscene... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 i don't think he will allowed to put himself in the pressure cooker that is the NFL again - either as a coach or a player - donnie henderson's blood pressure is probably obscene... Good point. I just can't see him go where all ex-Pats players end up-- Total obscurity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I guess not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Wow That thread was a who's who of former JN posters There was some real comedy in those posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 Well I didn't account for us switching to a 3-4. That really screwed up my prediction. But he could end up being the Saints third best LB of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I don't like to bash the guy because he can't post on the football side but... I'm not knocking the guy (actually he'd be a great fit for the Pats) but let him play a few years before you induct him into Canton. WTF? By the time I got here in early '06 he was carefully explaining to everybody with unrelenting repetitiveness and noodle armed efficiency how anybody in their right mind knew from the start that Vilma was not a fit for the 3-4. Hell, you're even sensible on the new board. Word. Plus he was already ****ing quoting Vanilla Ice? Son of a bitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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