Paradis Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 You're right. It's EASIER to find plays where he makes the perfect read. Lol you're pathetic. At least be honest. Speak to the HOPE that he can be salvaged. Fck off with cloak and dagger college assessment. The guy was amongst the worst qb in AMERICA last 2 years. Macc, hope you know what you're doing, cause your career here is now officially married to that guy. LOL 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Like I said earlier most of you will be praising him by year 3. Easily the best QB we have drafted in 30 years 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jack48 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 54 minutes ago, JETSfaninNE said: Thats his entire 3 yr college career. Although I think only like 18 or 20 of them are from his freshman yr. 21, I think I read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, shawn306 said: Does this mean Petty is not the future ? Next year when we take another QB does he become the Franchise ? how bout the year after that ? The only people saying Sanchez, Smith, or Petty was our franchise QB were the people looking only at the stats. They didn't make the audibles, the reads, the progressions, or the beautiful play actions that Hack did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Does this mean Petty is not the future ? Next year when we take another QB does he become the Franchise ? how bout the year after that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Just now, Paradis said: Lol you're pathetic. At least be honest. Speak to the HOPE that he can be salvaged. Fck off with cloak and dagger college assessment. The guy was amongst the worst qb in AMERICA last 2 years. Macc, hope you know what you're doing, cause your career here is now officially married to that guy. LOL Come on... you prove that you know very little of scouting if you simply say that lazy assessment of his past two years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, shawn306 said: Does this mean Petty is not the future ? Next year when we take another QB does he become the Franchise ? how bout the year after that ? Mac already kinda said Petty is grooming to be a back-up/// No, because we won't need to And again... Lazy assessment 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Larz Posted May 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2016 we finally have a scout as GM, this was his biggest call by far, and he had his scouts in place, knew his freshmen coach and went to his workout. I don't care if it was a reach by 75 slots, if this kid works out nothing else matters at the rate I'm going, I'll have a hackenberg tattoo on my ass by the end of the week, lol 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 He is also crap; just like the rest of the draft; people will be discussing how everyone is a either the next HOF player or a total bust - now comes the really long period with just a few OTAs to keep us occupied for another 3 months ... See, that's the other end of the spectrum. You say the guy is "crap" and he has never taken one NFL snap. How do you know that? How about waiting to see how the guy performs before passing judgement? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Come on... you prove that you know very little of scouting if you simply say that lazy assessment of his past two years. I don't have to prove sh*t. I watched him, too many times. He sucked ASS. Dirty ASS... can he be fixed? Obviously Gailey seems to think so. Good luck with that. Your jobs are hanging in the balance. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, Paradis said: Lol you're pathetic. At least be honest. Speak to the HOPE that he can be salvaged. Fck off with cloak and dagger college assessment. The guy was amongst the worst qb in AMERICA last 2 years. Macc, hope you know what you're doing, cause your career here is now officially married to that guy. LOL Watch his games... he barely had 2 steps before a guy was on him... constantly running for his life... throws the ball away (gets charged as a bad throw and incomplete) ... He makes get reads. And lazy footwork... with the wrong foot back which franklin made him change. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, PatsFanTX said: See, that's the other end of the spectrum. You say the guy is "crap" and he has never taken one NFL snap. How do you know that? How about waiting to see how the guy performs before passing judgement? Well, of course you can never know for certain. But this kid has all the potential in the world. Probably the most excited for a pick I've ever been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, Larz said: we finally have a scout as GM, this was his biggest call by far, and he had his scouts in place, knew his freshmen coach and went to his workout. I don't care if it was a reach by 75 slots, if this kid works out nothing else matters at the rate I'm going, I'll have a hackenberg tattoo on my ass by the end of the week, lol People are just so negative... 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Larz said: we finally have a scout as GM, this was his biggest call by far, and he had his scouts in place, knew his freshmen coach and went to his workout. I don't care if it was a reach by 75 slots, if this kid works out nothing else matters at the rate I'm going, I'll have a hackenberg tattoo on my ass by the end of the week, lol Don't put it there. No one will see it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lupz27 Posted May 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2016 10 minutes ago, Larz said: This is a great throw, if he leads his WR he is gonna get him murdered by the safety, he placed back shoulder to protect the WR. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skeptable Posted May 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, Paradis said: I don't have to prove sh*t. I watched him, too many times. He sucked ASS. Dirty ASS... can he be fixed? Obviously Gailey seems to think so. Good luck with that. Your jobs are hanging in the balance. Number 1 high school recruit in the country... has an amazing freshman year... Switches coaches and all of a sudden he is horrible and you don't think coaching had anything to do with it??? WOW... 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RalphC Posted May 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 hour ago, King P said: Cal's O-Line was even worse than PSU's, and Goff did just fine. Love how all the excuses are rolling in for Hackenberg. I'll assume this is just posters trying desperately to talk themselves into this pick Per Football Outsiders: Cal's offensive line was ranked 14th in sacks allowed; PSU was ranked 92nd. Goff played behind a better line. www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaaol 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PatsFanTX Posted May 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2016 Well, of course you can never know for certain. But this kid has all the potential in the world. Probably the most excited for a pick I've ever been. Sure he does, but I just laugh at posters claiming he will be the Jets franchise QB for the next 12 years as much as I laugh at posters who say he is nothing but crap. For crying out loud, let the guy perform on the field before making any kind of evaluations. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: See, that's the other end of the spectrum. You say the guy is "crap" and he has never taken one NFL snap. How do you know that? How about waiting to see how the guy performs before passing judgement? Clearly trolling has killed your sense of sarcasm As a long loyal fan I am hoping for a franchise QB; was hoping when he fell to us Macc would have thought Lynch was it; apparently not. I don't have a problem swinging for the fences on Hack if Macc thinks he has a shot. I don't think he is crap and I don't have a problem with the first few picks (although I wish some other players had fallen to us). My yeah, he is crap was sarcasm; he may not pan out, but I have seen enough of Macc to know that he does his due diligence; maybe has tunnel vision on this one, or maybe there is a 30% chance of him turning out to be a franchise QB (or more - or less); either way, I will wait and see. Hopeful, but not blinded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BowlesMovement Posted May 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, Skeptable said: People are just so negative... They are negative, and they are a nasty combination of intellectually lazy and arrogant. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Number 1 high school recruit in the country... has an amazing freshman year... Switches coaches and all of a sudden he is horrible and you don't think coaching had anything to do with it??? WOW... Have you ever worked a real job in your life? Does your boss give a sh*t why you were late? Like every week?... It doesn't matter anymore why or what happened. It did. And he imploded on an epic scale . He's a wreck. An inaccurate, sloppy mess with no feel for pressure, no confidence and no touch. It is definitely NOT a given that he ever recovers or turns it around. Just ask David Carr. Deal with it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BowlesMovement Posted May 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2016 Just now, Paradis said: Have you ever worked a real job in your life? Does your boss give a sh*t why you were late? Like every week?... It doesn't matter anymore why or what happened. It did. And he imploded on an epic. He's a wreck. An inaccurate, sloppy mess with no feel for pressure, no confidence and no touch. It is definitely NOT a given that he ever recovers or turns it around. Just ask David Carr. Deal with it. LOL, good analogy. Cant be serious with this crap right?? If you are late after day 1 or 2, you leave earlier, you have control of that, you have no control of your offensive line, coaches or personnel as a college QB. At least try to put a tiny bit of thought into your analogies if you are going to use them. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 17 minutes ago, shawn306 said: Does this mean Petty is not the future ? Next year when we take another QB does he become the Franchise ? how bout the year after that ? Petty is a future backup. Possibly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Paradis said: Have you ever worked a real job in your life? Does your boss give a sh*t why you were late? Like every week?... It doesn't matter anymore why or what happened. It did. And he imploded on an epic. He's a wreck. An inaccurate, sloppy mess with no feel for pressure, no confidence and no touch. It is definitely NOT a given that he ever recovers or turns it around. Just ask David Carr. Deal with it. He is not late.. He showed up to work everyday... did exactly what the coaches told him... but changing footwork screwed shotgun and pistol throws, whether you believe it or not changing footwork has a big difference on throws... now its crazy to say he didn't feel pressure, he felt it all the time... he just tried to actually make plays rather then always take a sack... Look at how long he has to throw, 2 Steps .... its insane.. he can't even throw if he wanted to... You are so wrong its unreal. You make very lazy analysis and should stop talking about Hackenberg because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 LOL, good analogy. Cant be serious with this crap right?? If you are late after day 1 or 2, you leave earlier, you have control of that, you have no control of your offensive line, coaches or personnel as a college QB. At least try to put a tiny bit of thought into your analogies if you are going to use them. The point is, your boss doesn't give a sh*t why you're late. Week after week - there was an accident, and then power outage, and then my grandma died etc etc. It doesn't matter if it's true or not after a while. It is what it is.... It doesn't matter if it was the line, coaching staff, weapons, etc. Hackenberg SUCKED. it happened. It is what it is. He may never bounce back - you all have to accept that. I hate the pick. It's hard enough as it is to hit a home run with the #1 QB, let alone the guy in shop because he's broken. Boy oh boy. You guys gave Geno a hard time for being a meathead... This place is going to have a nuclear meltdown over Hack if Gailey doesn't do his best Dr Frankenstein impersonation 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 You make very lazy analysis and should stop talking about Hackenberg because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. lol, do you know you're talking to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Fed Hill Jet said: Hack has been sacked 103 times in the past two years. The most sacked QB last year was Kaepernick at 43. Has any QB in the NFL been sacked as much as Hack in 2 years? David Carr. 117 times sacked from 2004-2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 53 minutes ago, elgoman said: In this case the chance the stats are lying is very low. The number of modern franchise QBs who performed like Hackenberg, were drafted where he was, with small hands, etc is virtually 0. Every other QB on our roster, Geno and Petty both, have a higher statistical chance of being franchise QBs than Hackenberg does. What's with all this small hand crap. Did you actually do research or are you just parroting some talking heads that always need to find negatives about any player. You may as well as just say any Qb drafted in the 2nd round from a program where members of the staff molested kids , never amounted to anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Lupz27 said: This will remind me of the 2009 preseason TBH, and wouldn't be surprised if Hackenberg gets a shot to split the starting reps in gm 3 VS the Giants 1's, and with the Jets 1's, and then if he shows any semblance of having it named the starter. idk but rookie camp and training camp is definitely going to be interesting. 1s pre season game.....second half with hackenberg in will be very interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Paradis said: The point is, your boss doesn't give a sh*t why you're late. Week after week - there was an accident, and then power outage, and then my grandma died etc etc. It doesn't matter if it's true or not after a while. It is what it is.... It doesn't matter if it was the line, coaching staff, weapons, etc. Hackenberg SUCKED. it happened. It is what it is. He never bounce back. Boy oh boy. You guys gave Geno a hard time for being a meathead... This place is going to have a nuclear meltdown over Hack if Gailey doesn't do his best Dr Frankenstein impersonation Yes, it does matter. In the NFL, he's not going to feel pressure within two seconds every play. His receivers will almost always make the correct reads. His footwork won't be changed weekly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Paradis said: lol, do you know you're talking to? Somebody that's lazy and is another negative Jet fan that probably sits in front of his computer 18 hours a day complaining about why his ass hurts 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, Kevin L said: David Carr. 117 times sacked from 2004-2005. Yeah with a make shift offensive line on an expansion team... come on... really. This offensive line is nowhere near that bad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 He had a joke of a front line, and ran a different offense the last two years. Everyone has bad gifs, but he also has good ones. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pointman Posted May 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2016 He might suck and be a Sanchez like loser, but until I see it repeatedly... I choose to believe he might be the guy. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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