Charlie Brown Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just now, drdetroit said: Of course hack is sitting next year. Geno or Fitz will be the starter I agree. I was responding to some saying Hack could get playing time next season and I don't see that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I can't wait for all you doom and gloom posters eat your words about Hackenberg... in 2 years most of you will own his jersey. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 22 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: I agree. I was responding to some saying Hack could get playing time next season and I don't see that Not unless 2 qb's get injured which is a possibility with our new OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 56 minutes ago, SMC said: That's pretty optimistic for a QB prospect whom was said of: "One coach said C.Hackenberg couldn’t escape pressure, identify blitzes, release it quickly, anticipate throws or pass downfield accurately." That's alot to undo despite being "wired for a pro offense." He not only needs to run a pro offense, he needs to learn to play well against a pro defense. Thats more than a year's worth of teaching IMO. Heck, its not unreasonable to foresee it taking next season just to make Hackenberg unlearn all his bad habits that he accumulated since O'Brien left. who is the coach? rex ryan? we have no idea who said this...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 13 hours ago, BigRy56 said: Goodbye Geno Like hell wheres the money coming from to sign greedy Fitz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Hackenberg vs Brissett is going to be the future of the AFC East. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I'd be willing to trade our 4th rounder for Glennon. No idea if TB would accept (I assume no) but I'd be happy w/ that move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Hackenberg vs Brissett is going to be the future of the AFC East. After they teach Brissett how to cheat, he'll be the better QB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Look Mac is taking a chance that Hack can be the Qb they thought he was 3 years ago when he was the best Qb prospect in the country and a potential franchise Qb. They obviously think there were circumstances and reasons why he regressed. They did their due diligence on him so ok. Let's go with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 2 hours ago, bealeb319 said: And which OT would you have taken seeing as all of the ones worth taking in the first three rounds were gone? As I mentioned in other posts I like LeRaven Clark from Texas Tech. 6'6" 315 was a 3 year all BIG 12 1st teamer at LT for Tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: Look Mac is taking a chance that Hack can be the Qb they thought he was 3 years ago when he was the best Qb prospect in the country and a potential franchise Qb. They obviously think there were circumstances and reasons why he regressed. They did their due diligence on him so ok. Let's go with it. It's not even that much of a risk, it was a late 2nd round pick. All these tools are acting like we just gave up two drafts to move up to 1 to get him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just now, BowlesMovement said: It's not even that much of a risk, it was a late 2nd round pick. All these tools are acting like we just have up two drafts to move up to 1 to get him. It was a risk when you consider they could have drafted a plug and play player in the 2nd round to fill a position of need. Just what the Bills did with Ragland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Thai Jet said: It was a risk when you consider they could have drafted a plug and play player in the 2nd round to fill a position of need. Just what the Bills did with Ragland. No risk, no reward. But let's take it easy with the magnitude of the risk. Jet fans scream daily about getting a QB, our scouts like a QB, and everyone is throwing a hissy fit because they know more, yet are amazingly not yet employed by any NFL teams 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 7 minutes ago, BowlesMovement said: It's not even that much of a risk, it was a late 2nd round pick. All these tools are acting like we just gave up two drafts to move up to 1 to get him. Well a 2nd round pick is pretty high. And we did it in 2013 to draft Geno. Actually at that time Geno was higher rated and for a time in his senior season he was considered to be a top ten pick. Idzik thought he was worth it in the 2nd round and many experts thought it was a good pick value wise considering how far down it was. But he wasn't ready to start his rookie season. That was the mistake not drafting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 3 hours ago, Thai Jet said: As I mentioned in other posts I like LeRaven Clark from Texas Tech. 6'6" 315 was a 3 year all BIG 12 1st teamer at LT for Tech. So we should have reached for a developmental tackle but its not ok for mac to reach for a developmental QB that he liked? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Not sure if it's been asked/mentioned yet, but if we didn't take Hack in the 2nd, wouldn't the Pats have taken him? Considering they needed a QB and Hack has successfully run a similar system his freshman year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/25458307/how-a-palmer-the-cardinals-are-helping-prepare-hackenberg-for-the-nfl Pretty good article about how Hackenberg has been working with Jordan Palmer for the past 3 months. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 18 hours ago, Colgateman said: Fitztragic is not going to be a jet next season. Scheftler just said they haven't even spoken in weeks and that fitztragic would rather retire. Smokescreen. I can't see a player who still has something left, leaving eight million on the table and simply walking away because the team won't give him "stupid money". He will play for someone this season, maybe not the Jets, but if it not the Jets he will play for less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 33 minutes ago, Mike135 said: Not sure if it's been asked/mentioned yet, but if we didn't take Hack in the 2nd, wouldn't the Pats have taken him? Considering they needed a QB and Hack has successfully run a similar system his freshman year. that's an excellent question. you'd have to think if the pats wanted him, belly would have chatted with o'brien. if the pats took him the pick would be unilaterally praised. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 We have to work with him to get him back on track and proper fundamentals back. He has the tools to be successful - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 45 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: So we should have reached for a developmental tackle but its not ok for mac to reach for a developmental QB that he liked? Clark STARTED for 3 yrs. at LT and was ALL BIG 12 for each of those 3 yrs. Much more of a plug and play guy than Hackensack who was rated UNDRAFTABLE by one draft site as posted here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 38 minutes ago, Mike135 said: Not sure if it's been asked/mentioned yet, but if we didn't take Hack in the 2nd, wouldn't the Pats have taken him? Considering they needed a QB and Hack has successfully run a similar system his freshman year. We'll never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Clark STARTED for 3 yrs. at LT and was ALL BIG 12 for each of those 3 yrs. Much more of a plug and play guy than Hackensack who was rated UNDRAFTABLE by one draft site as posted here. Brady was rated undraftable by many experts. Why don't we give the kid a chancr Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persiussa Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 After watching a bunch of this guys film all of the hard characteristics to find are there. He seems to understand the game, he's smart, has the right measurables, strong arm, can make every throw, he's a leader from what i read with a high football IQ. The only thing is that he appears to be lazy on the field. His footwork is sloppy and he almost never sets his feet when he throws. Once he runs (which happens often because his o line is terrible) he stops looking down field and passes the line of scrimmage despite having limited athleticism. when he drops back he doesn't lift his feet that much and the effort on his footwork just seems half hearted as if he doesn't really want to drop back, he just wants to throw the ball. I can see why the Jets want to take a shot with him. If you have all of the smarts and football intelligence mixed with the size and strength, the ability to call protections and truly understand the game thats more than half the battle. It looks like he just physically has to work on his technique so it's no wonder why our team thinks they can work on his physical ability. It will take time for him to retrain his brain into moving his body in disciplined ways in the heat of the moment when the defense is coming at him. It will take time but you never know. The only question i have is, Is this guy gonna be a quarterback or is he more of one of those guys who is better served being a coach down the road because he just a leader who mentally grasps the game so well. It's a strange thing to have all of that physical talent and not put it together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 12 minutes ago, Persiussa said: It's a strange thing to have all of that physical talent and not put it together. 100+ sacks will do that to a guy. http://www.mcall.com/sports/college/psu/mc-penn-state-football-michigan-wrap-20151122-story.html Through 36 games over his three seasons at Penn State, Hackenberg has gotten up from 101 sacks, missing only a handful of plays. Following the Lions' 28-16 loss to Michigan, Hackenberg was asked whether it was difficult to keep getting up. "Nah," he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Not sure if it's been asked/mentioned yet, but if we didn't take Hack in the 2nd, wouldn't the Pats have taken him? Considering they needed a QB and Hack has successfully run a similar system his freshman year. Pats would never take a QB who barely completes half of his passes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, PatsFanTX said: Pats would never take a QB who barely completes half of his passes. They selected Tom Brady Aren't the Patritots fans having a draft discussion on their board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 They selected Tom Brady Aren't the Patritots fans having a draft discussion on their board. Yea, a discussion on how great a midget CB is going to be. Not my cup of tea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Pats would never take a QB who barely completes half of his passes. They've had so much succes with the ones they drafted not named Brady. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Yea, a discussion on how great a midget CB is going to be. Not my cup of tea. On Jet Nation last night Erik Coleman a former Jet thought the Pats had the best draft in the AFC East.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 On Jet Nation last night Erik Coleman a former Jet thought the Pats had the best draft in the AFC East.. I thought Thuney was a great pick. They still should have gone OLineman at #60. Now we have Ellis Hobbs II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Literally no one wants to tie the Jets to the Mets. No one. Stop. Yes. Just because they once played in the same stadium, have rhyming names, look to 1969 as the franchise's crowning glory and are the "second child" to original mystique teams in their respective sports is no reason to tie them together Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: I thought Thuney was a great pick. They still should have gone OLineman at #60. Now we have Ellis Hobbs II Ya Thuney a great pick predicted to be 6th rounder ya awesome mon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Literally no one wants to tie the Jets to the Mets. No one. Stop. It's great being a Mets fan right now and anyone not watching them is missing out on some great baseball! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 This time last year Cook was considered a top 3 pick by many and look at him now. I believe Wentz was considered in the next tier yet he gets picked second... You never know we these QB's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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