predator_05 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 The PFF nerds aren't too enamored with our 2nd round pick. Interesting arguments, and it paints a bit of a grim outlook. Quote Much of the positive buzz around Hackenberg as a prospect has to do with the fact that he looks the part of an NFL QB. But while Hackenberg can make every throw you can think of, and does have some beautiful passes in his tape, the frequency with which he is able to produce them is concerning. In 2015, Hackenberg produced a pass graded at plus-1 or higher (a stat we have taken to calling “Big-Time Throws,” much to my distress) on 2.68 percent of his attempts. 151 QBs were better than that, and only nine were worse. While there is good to his game in small flashes, you have to overlook so much bad to see it that it simply isn’t enough. Tim Tebow made some nice throws, too, but it didn’t make him a starting NFL quarterback. Even the best of Hackenberg is an average, inaccurate passer with a few worrying qualities. In my opinion, his NFL ceiling is as a backup a team hopes it never has to play. Jesus christ. Read more here, its a great read...albeit quite damning https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/04/08/draft-why-pff-doesnt-have-a-draftable-grade-on-christian-hackenberg/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I question the fact that this guy wanted to go to Penn State after it was exposed as one big Pedophile outfit. WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 They're right. This is one of the worst draft picks in Jets history, which is really saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 wow. "Ultimate wild card" drafted in round 2. I hope they know/see something teverybody else doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Gen X Jet said: I question the fact that this guy wanted to go to Penn State after it was exposed as one big Pedophile outfit. WTF? I think it's a positive. The guy is loyal. A lot of their players stayed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I read a few of the pre-draft guides, and I don't recall any having Hack as better than a 3rd rounder project who was not a great bet. Maybe they're all wrong, we certainly have to hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 This is all good, but I'd rather watch his tape for myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 What a fantastic head of hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, Gen X Jet said: I question the fact that this guy wanted to go to Penn State after it was exposed as one big Pedophile outfit. WTF? He was already committed when the story broke. He's form Penn.. He stuck it out. WTF is bad about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 That missed throw at the combine was pretty terrifying. It must be said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 Well, his support cast was D2 level. So he was working with nothing, outside of Allen Robinson. Still such a massive leap of faith to ignore his substandard college production and take him this high. I'm trying to feel good about this pick, guys, need some crumbs of comfort...we're getting panned for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: He was already committed when the story broke. He's form Penn.. He stuck it out. WTF is bad about that? The story of those players sticking on the team and the way O'Brien treated them is actually one of the cooler stories in college football from the past few years. It's crazy that something admirable came out of that sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: LMAO, so he basically doesn't know how to play QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, dbatesman said: They're right. This is one of the worst draft picks in Jets history, which is really saying something. It's on par with the last 2nd round QB we took, at worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The guy was playing cornhole in the yard. Even he wasn't expecting to get drafted this soon. We're cursed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just now, predator_05 said: LMAO, so he basically doesn't know how to play QB? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: It's on par with the last 2nd round QB we took, at worst. Geno was a better prospect than Hackenberg by several orders of magnitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: I think it's a positive. The guy is loyal. A lot of their players stayed on. Supporting the molesting of children is a positive? I understand he was a young man at the time but it shows lack of judgment and horrible ethics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Yes. Oh god, i think i'm gonna cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Draftinsider says he weighs 332 pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jett Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Well I think I'll take a 30 year scout mac's word than a bunch of virgins behind computers over at pff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 57 minutes ago, Gen X Jet said: Supporting the molesting of children is a positive? I understand he was a young man at the time but it shows lack of judgment and horrible ethics. This is a dumb assertion. No one was supporting molesting kids. They had thousands of students who didn't leave the school. And faculty etc. What did you want them to do close down the school. Give the kid a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 12 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Geno was a better prospect than Hackenberg by several orders of magnitude. I saw both of them play a lot in college, and this is complete nonsense. I never saw Geno as an NFL QB, Hackenberg could be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Has anyone made a coherent case for drafting Hackenberg other than that he's tall and white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 so the hackenhaters take an early lead..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman81 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 20 minutes ago, T0mShane said: April 30th? He sent that from the future? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I wonder if Mac working with O'Brien influenced the pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Larz said: so the hackenhaters take an early lead..... Doubters, not haters. He has alot to show us to convince us otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Has anyone made a coherent case for drafting Hackenberg other than that he's tall and white? As good a case as any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 23 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: What a fantastic head of hair. Can't wait to see him shirtless in GQ magazine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJetsVets91 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I knew it was all over when Pennington was brought out to announce the pick. They did the same thing with the Geno pick. Absolutely terrible. I can't believe we used a second rounder on this bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, Warfish said: Doubters, not haters. He has alot to show us to convince us otherwise. dude, this is going to be the topic everyday for the next 4 years, and the camps will soon be set up with the cute names and everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 8 minutes ago, BowlesMovement said: I saw both of them play a lot in college, and this is complete nonsense. I never saw Geno as an NFL QB, Hackenberg could be oh ok nevermind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, Larz said: dude, this is going to be the topic everyday for the next 4 years, and the camps will soon be set up with the cute names and everything Pro folks seem to like "HackAttack" already. Doubters have the easy and built in "The Hack". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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