Augustiniak Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 they must really love qvale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 anything after the 4th round you are looking for special teams and PS players that might develop into backups why get annoyed by who they take ? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Least we added a O Lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet in PA Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Comp picks will make that uneven trade a wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just now, Larz said: anything after the 4th round you are looking for special teams and PS players that might develop into backups why get annoyed by who they take ? lol because we know more than mccags does. that's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: As others have said, Jets have 3 comp picks next year Pretty sure this is not true. Jets as it stands today are projected to have no comp picks, maybe a late one. Another reason I was upset about this offseason. http://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Who needs the 32nd pick in the 4th round anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just now, derp said: Pretty sure this is not true. Jets as it stands today are projected to have no comp picks, maybe a late one. Another reason I was upset about this offseason. http://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/ Wrong. Snacks, Ivory and Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just now, Irish Jet said: Who needs the 32nd pick in the 4th round anyways? COMP PICKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJetsVets91 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, Larz said: anything after the 4th round you are looking for special teams and PS players that might develop into backups why get annoyed by who they take ? lol because they traded a fourth rounder for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 this is the type of pick where you hope having a real gm with a scouting backround pays off. he started 4 years in the SEC and held his own, and that says something. i will assume he winds up as a swing tackle who provides good depth, and that's pretty good for a 5th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet in PA Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 From PFF:Brandon Shell's 98.4 pass blocking efficiency against Power-5 opposition was the 3rd-best mark among OTs in this NFL draft class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just now, Jet in PA said: From PFF:Brandon Shell's 98.4 pass blocking efficiency against Power-5 opposition was the 3rd-best mark among OTs in this NFL draft class finally, a PFF analysis that helps our cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just now, Jet in PA said: From PFF:Brandon Shell's 98.4 pass blocking efficiency against Power-5 opposition was the 3rd-best mark among OTs in this NFL draft class I like how we like PFF when they say good things about our guys, lol. BEAST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet in PA Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 finally, a PFF analysis that helps our cause. That was exactly what I said. At least he wasn't "undraftable" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: Backup NT and OL coming in round 7. Guess they couldn't wait until round 7. Backup NT coming up. Totally BAP-based drafting and not a need-based draft at all. Sure. After they compiled their BAP list based on need, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet in PA Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I like how we like PFF when they say good things about our guys, lol. BEAST. They had to be right once this weekend!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, NYJetsVets91 said: because they traded a fourth rounder for it? my comment was made in general, I hadn't seen the trade details yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Sperm Edwards said: Guess they couldn't wait until round 7. Backup NT coming up. Totally BAP-based drafting and not a need-based draft at all. Sure. After they compiled their BAP list based on need, lol. I think in general most teams go BAP in rd 1, take chances in rd 2, and go need after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet in PA Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 well all that rhetoric from mccags about BAP - throw it all out. no wr, no rb, no dl. and no TE, which shows you how much they value that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 20 minutes ago, Larz said: I think in general most teams go BAP in rd 1, take chances in rd 2, and go need after that Later rounds is where you should go BAP. It's hard enough to nail NFL-talent alone that late. To place the further constraint of "need" upon those picks is asking for them to be wastes or hoping for stupid luck. Use free agency for needs, where you can pick & choose without worrying about players not being able to handle the needed tasks. Even more so when we're a team without a good enough starting QB, using late picks for present need is how you end up with soon to be cut camp fodder & for populating practice squads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colgateman Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I'm really surprised that Aaron Burbridge and Rashard Higgins haven't been picked yet, hope on of em fall to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Man, even when they finally address the offensive line, they still piss me off. A future 4th for a 5th? Great trade, guys! #math Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Trading a 4th for a 5th for a bottom tier OLineman? I'm starting to feel sorry for Jets fans. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJetsVets91 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: well all that rhetoric from mccags about BAP - throw it all out. no wr, no rb, no dl. and no TE, which shows you how much they value that position. the BAP philosophy went out the window when they took Hackenberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Enough bashing the GM, he hit on most of our needs so the whining should stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Later rounds is where you should go BAP. It's hard enough to nail a combination of talent alone that late. To place the further constraint of "need" upon those picks is asking for them to be wastes. Use free agency for needs, where you can pick & choose without worrying about players not being able to handle the needed tasks. Even more so when we're a team without a good enough starting QB, using late picks for present need is how you end up with soon to be cut camp fodder & for populating practice squads. special teams and depth are needs. you aren't getting starters after rd 4, (spare me the jason ferguson legend). I wasn't referring to starters. teams are looking at developmental prospects and special teams here, as they should be. btw, using italics for emphasis is really lame, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 hour ago, PatsFanTX said: When have the Jets ever focused on offense during the draft? Well it's not like the NFL has changed the rules to favor offense or anything like that so why bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colgateman Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 hope the jets get Cody core in the 7th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 16 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: well all that rhetoric from mccags about BAP - throw it all out. no wr, no rb, no dl. and no TE, which shows you how much they value that position. Even funnier are the songbirds signing his praises along the lines of "Maccagnan always drafts BAP!" I could even argue that Williams was somewhat need-based, since he was trying to unload Mo back then as well, and probably figured at worst he'd have no trouble trading him next year as well. He knew he didn't want to meet Mo's demands when he was handing out huge contracts to everyone not named Muhammad Wilkerson last year. Had he taken a CB last year, or if he'd doubled-up at the same position with a later pick, then you could say he's clearly just taking the best player almost regardless of position. Here is the Maccagnan draft philosophy: try to fill every position before draft day so you don't get painted into a corner & need to reach too badly. Then draft the BAP, but that BAP list is compiled with the heaviest of thumbs on the scale to base it on need, this year or next year. So for example, this year he would (correctly) either not have any DTs in his top 100 prospects outright, or if he did he would have a * next to their names, as in do not touch unless he's rated a minimum full round better than the next-highest rated prospect when our pick comes up. There's a name for that drafting philosophy: it's called drafting purely for need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 gotta see how these picks pan out next year. i realy liked what mac has done up this point. dont wana get out the pitchforks quite yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Well Kevin Hogan went to KC. What about my guy Vernon Adams. I thought the 49ers might select him in the 4th or the 5th but so far still on the board. Same with my guy Scoobie Wright. We need a punter bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colgateman Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Rangers9 said: Well Kevin Hogan went to KC. What about my guy Vernon Adams. I thought the 49ers might select him in the 4th or the 5th but so far still on the board. Same with my guy Scoobie Wright. We need a punter bad. I don't understand how Scoobie wright is still on the board, I thought he would of gone in the 4-5 range, maybe character concerns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 24 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Wrong. Snacks, Ivory and Davis Pretty sure I'm not wrong. You don't just get comp picks for losing guys. Those three qualifying UFA's the Jets lost are cancelled out by the signings of Forte, McLendon, and Jenkins. Believe there's a chance they get a late compensatory pick based on the salary difference, and they would get a compensatory pick if they lose another qualifying UFA. But as things stand right now they are projected to get 0 compensatory picks next year. Certainly not three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet in PA Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Sorry to blow this thread up but these hindsight tweets are great: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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