courtnj18 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Mike Florio Posted this article this morning on NBC Sports: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/06/02/jets-not-interested-in-one-year-12-million-for-fitzpatrick/ One year is ridiculous - I say the 3-year deal is the best offer (if that's even legit now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I never thought Mac was this stupid anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Fitz wants to maximize the amount of money he makes while he still has the ability to play in the NFL. That's called common sense. He's stuck in a contract dispute with the Jets where he has no leverage. Or shall I say, he has no leverage AT THIS POINT IN TIME. Things could be very different after the 2016 season. If they are? Fitz wants to renegotiate and maximize his earnings. He cannot do that right now because he happens to have no leverage. So signing a 1 year deal with the Jets makes a huge amount of sense for guy a that very clearly believes in himself. The Jets have ZERO leverage on the amount of yeas Fitz signs for even right now. The Jets want to get Fitz on the cheap for multiple years and Fitz is saying, where I have no leverage right now I'll settle for your offer. But I'll bet I'll have much better luck getting more money in FA after the 2016 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 9 minutes ago, Mainejet said: Fitz wants to maximize the amount of money he makes while he still has the ability to play in the NFL. That's called common sense. He's stuck in a contract dispute with the Jets where he has no leverage. Or shall I say, he has no leverage AT THIS POINT IN TIME. Things could be very different after the 2016 season. If they are? Fitz wants to renegotiate and maximize his earnings. He cannot do that right now because he happens to have no leverage. So signing a 1 year deal with the Jets makes a huge amount of sense for guy a that very clearly believes in himself. The Jets have ZERO leverage on the amount of yeas Fitz signs for even right now. The Jets want to get Fitz on the cheap for multiple years and Fitz is saying, where I have no leverage right now I'll settle for your offer. But I'll bet I'll have much better luck getting more money in FA after the 2016 season. If he wants a 1-yr deal so bad, the Jets would probably be willing to give it to him. For $8M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 At least we're starting to hear where negotiations stand. It will either be a lesser one year deal (which could very well lead to the same situation next year) or they''ll compromise on a two year deal. I think the latter is the most likely. He will be a Jet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Word is Geno looks awesome in camp... again. Hopefully it spells us not re-signing Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Macc is being a dick . Who locks themselves into backup money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 The next story will be "Fitz ready to accept 16 individual game-week contracts of 750k". When is he going to understand, he's not worth 12mil per season no matter how it's broken apart? Half that... maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 7 minutes ago, Larz said: Macc is being a dick . Who locks themselves into backup money? Backups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 so let me get this straight. fitz rejects a multiple year contract where he's guaranteed 12M year 1, but welcomes a 1 year deal for 12M. the jets do not want a 1 yr deal b/c of how it impacts the cap; if fitz takes the multiple year deal, it's better for the jets cap situation this season. what i read into this is, the jets want fitz around next season to help hackenberg (with fitz as the backup), while fitz does not want to be a backup next season and therefore would prefer the 1 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, Larz said: Macc is being a dick . Who locks themselves into backup money? Perhaps a backup? Whether he likes it or not, no one but the Jets seem to have any interest in Fitz as a starter While I can understand Fitz's thoughts on why he'd be willing to take only the best part of the Jets' offer, there's also good reason for the Jets to not see that as some sort of great compromise. The whole idea behind the Jets willing to up their offer over what they previously had as his perceived value is the additional long-term benefit that they would get along with it. That money would be part of a future investment they would be making, so they have no reason to agree to such an increased spending while receiving no benefit in return. The supposed "concession" Fitz seems to be willing to take appears to be entirely to his advantage, considering regardless of how much he may want, no one is offering anything close to the Jets. If he's nothing more than a one-year placeholder, then you simply don't pay that much money for such a player. I don't even blame Fitz for trying to get as much as he wants, but the idea that he's making some sort of sacrifice here isn't the reality, and the Jets have little reason to let that influence them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 So I guess what Fitz is "prepared" to do really doesnt matter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Macc is being a dick . Who locks themselves into backup money? Backup level QBs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Apparently the Jets don't know he's ready to accept a 1 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 It is pretty clear the Jets do not see him as a starting QB for multiple years- he thinks he is- there is your stalemate. Who waivers first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 1 minute ago, faba said: It is pretty clear the Jets do not see him as a starting QB for multiple years- he thinks he is- there is your stalemate. Who waivers first yep, that's basically what i said above. fitz's problem is that soooo many teams have drafted qbs high in recent years, teams that have traditionally had qb problems. so now teams like the rams, jags, raiders, vikings, texans and even the jets, they have qbs of the future. fitz had 1 good year and he thinks the league's perception of him has changed but it hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, faba said: It is pretty clear the Jets do not see him as a starting QB for multiple years- he thinks he is- there is your stalemate. Who waivers first Neither. Fitz will not be a Jet again. (If I say it enough, does it help make it reality?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, faba said: It is pretty clear the Jets do not see him as a starting QB for multiple years- he thinks he is- there is your stalemate. Who waivers first Gotta think its FItz. The Jets didnt waiver when there were actual teams in the market that could have taken him. No reason to waiver now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Negotiating through the press is a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 26 minutes ago, pointman said: Word is Geno looks awesome in camp... again. Hopefully it spells us not re-signing Fitz. just awesome!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 25 minutes ago, Larz said: Macc is being a dick . Who locks themselves into backup money? not a single player would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 This is like hooking up with three chicks at the bar. One is a 200lb beast but her two friends are cute, so you go along with it. They take you back to their place. The words "orgy" and "foursome" are being used. Once things heat up, the two cute chicks leave the room and you're left with the Rob Ryan lookalike. Not cool! 1st year @12mil = the fat chick 2nd and 3rd years @6mil = the two cute chicks No one bones the fat chick w/o the cute ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlesichick Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 FITZTRAGIC can only thank himself for this mess.......he lost the Buffalo game. He has no leverage.....he has no argument....he left everything he had out there last year and it wasn't enough.......it wasn't enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 13 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: Negotiating through the press is a bad idea. What a great mentor for the young QB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Just now, Mike135 said: This is like hooking up with three chicks at the bar. One is a 200lb beast but her two friends are cute, so you go along with it. They take you back to their place. The words "orgy" and "foursome" are being used. Once things heat up, the two cute chicks leave the room and you're left with the the Rob Ryan lookalike. Not cool! 1st year @12mil = the fat chick 2nd and 3rd years @6mil = the two cute chicks No one bones the fat chick w/o the cute ones. A brilliant analysis. How'd you even conceive of that one. You get my vote for Post of the day on this one.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Just now, bowlesichick said: FITZTRAGIC can only thank himself for this mess.......he lost the Buffalo game. He has no leverage.....he has no argument....he left everything he had out there last year and it wasn't enough.......it wasn't enough. both buffalo games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mike135 said: This is like hooking up with three chicks at the bar. One is a 200lb beast but her two friends are cute, so you go along with it. They take you back to their place. The words "orgy" and "foursome" are being used. Once things heat up, the two cute chicks leave the room and you're left with the the Rob Ryan lookalike. Not cool! 1st year @12mil = the fat chick 2nd and 3rd years @6mil = the two cute chicks No one bones the fat chick w/o the cute ones. Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 1 minute ago, bowlesichick said: FITZTRAGIC can only thank himself for this mess.......he lost the Buffalo game. He has no leverage.....he has no argument....he left everything he had out there last year and it wasn't enough.......it wasn't enough. agreed. the nfl is a one man sport. nothing else matters besides the qb.nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, Mike135 said: This is like hooking up with three chicks at the bar. One is a 200lb beast but her two friends are cute, so you go along with it. They take you back to their place. The words "orgy" and "foursome" are being used. Once things heat up, the two cute chicks leave the room and you're left with the the Rob Ryan lookalike. Not cool! 1st year @12mil = the fat chick 2nd and 3rd years @6mil = the two cute chicks No one bones the fat chick w/o the cute ones. I'd bone 12 million dollars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 49 minutes ago, pointman said: Word is Geno looks awesome in camp... again. Hopefully it spells us not re-signing Fitz. He always look good in OTA's in shorts. Its when he has to actually play in a game is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 14 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: A brilliant analysis. How'd you even conceive of that one. You get my vote for Post of the day on this one.? Ha, wish I could say I thought of it out of no where. But sadly, it's a true story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 48 minutes ago, Mike135 said: Backups? They obviously want him to start this year. That makes him the starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Mac's trying to cover his ass in year's 2 and 3 and Fitz doesn't want to go along with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 45 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Perhaps a backup? Whether he likes it or not, no one but the Jets seem to have any interest in Fitz as a starter While I can understand Fitz's thoughts on why he'd be willing to take only the best part of the Jets' offer, there's also good reason for the Jets to not see that as some sort of great compromise. The whole idea behind the Jets willing to up their offer over what they previously had as his perceived value is the additional long-term benefit that they would get along with it. That money would be part of a future investment they would be making, so they have no reason to agree to such an increased spending while receiving no benefit in return. The supposed "concession" Fitz seems to be willing to take appears to be entirely to his advantage, considering regardless of how much he may want, no one is offering anything close to the Jets. If he's nothing more than a one-year placeholder, then you simply don't pay that much money for such a player. I don't even blame Fitz for trying to get as much as he wants, but the idea that he's making some sort of sacrifice here isn't the reality, and the Jets have little reason to let that influence them. That's why the 1 year deal makes sense. He's not going to start then lock in for backup.money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Larz said: They obviously want him to start this year. That makes him the starter That's fine but it still doesn't mean they don't think he's a below average starting QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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