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Jets not interested in one-year, $12 million for Fitzpatrick

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The next story will be "Fitz ready to accept 16 individual game-week contracts of 750k".

When is he going to understand, he's not worth 12mil per season no matter how it's broken apart?

Half that... maybe.

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7 minutes ago, Larz said:

Macc is being a dick .  Who locks themselves into backup money?

Backups?

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3 minutes ago, faba said:

It is pretty clear the Jets do not see him as a starting QB for multiple years- he thinks he is- there is your stalemate. Who waivers first

Neither.  Fitz will not be a Jet again.

(If I say it enough, does it help make it reality?)

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14 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

A brilliant analysis. How'd you even conceive of that one. You get my vote for Post of the day on this one.😃

Ha, wish I could say I thought of it out of no where.  But sadly, it's a true story.

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10 minutes ago, Larz said:

They obviously want him to start this year. That makes him the starter

Based on the offer, I don't know that it is obvious.  I'd say it's obvious they want him to at least compete for the job this year though.  But at 8mil per on average for 3 seasons, it's not quite as bad if he ends up not starting and just being the vet backup through what could be a challenging three years of getting one of Geno/Hack/Petty to be a true starter.

@12mil for one year, you're basically handing him the starting gig for one year and left with having to decide whether to re-sign either him or Geno again next season.  No benefit to the Jets at all.

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7 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

It also wins in the "how low can they go" category for comparing the Jets offer to Fitz as being like banging a fat broad who looks like Rex and who even you would turn down. Good job :unsure:.

lol, she looked like Rob!  At least he has long hair.  Two cute chicks or not, a Rex lookalike woulda been a deal-breaker.

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6 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

If he's on the team he's not competing for the starting job because there is nobody to compete with. Bowles doesn't want Geno and he showed that last year big time. The guy had a broken wrist and he still played. Something you guys give him no credit for at all. That was the perfect time to switch Qbs and Bowles preferred a Qb with a broken wrist over Geno Smith. And that also includes Gailey. Now what's your excuse for that one. Geno didn't get a fair break? 

The writing is on the wall man.  Get in your pro-Fitz arguments as quickly as possible.  This will all be over soon.  :D

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1 minute ago, Rangers9 said:

Going back many years I remember getting stuck with the fat one too. But not as bad as Rob Ryan. Was she into foot fetishes?

ha, didn't stick around to find out.

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3 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

Sure and welcome back to 4-12. You might get your wish. 

Any non-Fitz outcome is better than any realistic Fitz outcome (over 5 mil).  Short of the playoffs of course, but I did say "realistic".

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3 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

Don't the jets realize if they go with Geno, he too is playing on his last yr.. Maybe he has a pretty decent yr.. He is free to go if he chooses.. After what the idiots down in Houston gave Brock after half a decent season who knows what geno could get with a decent full year.. The jets won't want to sign him long term after drafting their " franchise " qb.. Geno will bolt, and we are left in same position anyway if Fitzpatrick plays one and done..  

No really.  We'd have saved 12mil.  Plus we can always re-sign Geno for cheaper if Hack isn't progressing well and keep him here long-term.  I know that's what we all really want.

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1 minute ago, Rangers9 said:

He wasn't below average last year and his stats prove that. If you want to talk about ten years ago or one bad game be my guest. He was easily a top 15 Qb in 2015. I'm talking for that one year not a career. It could be like Bowles said he finally found the right place. And Todd isn't involved in these poorly managed negotiations. 

I don't know how you say "poorly managed negotiations".  Just because you disagree with his view, ya can't say they're not managed correctly.

Macc is kickin' some @ss.  He has his numbers and he's sticking to 'em.  Only making things public as a last resort before what I believe will be the eventual door shutting on Fitz.

It's refreshing to have a GM who judged the market perfectly and won't budge.

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2 minutes ago, Skeptable said:

The problem that nobody is talking about is why the Jets want the three year deal versus One.  They can structure a 3 year deal to take a lot less of a cap hit they can divvy up a signing bonus and roster bonus etc. so the cap hit this year will be minimal. They can still give him the 12 Million in year one but extend the cap hit over three years... its not that hard... Then after this year we cut him and it accelerates the money (that they already paid him) to next year when we have a ton of cap room...

Right.  Though it definitely has been mentioned.  However even as much as I don't want Fitz starting this year, if he does, I definitely want him here as a backup beyond this year.

if Fitz signs a substantial deal now, Geno is basically gone.  That means we're looking at Hack or Petty in 2017.  We'd NEED a great vet backup then.

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1 minute ago, Rangers9 said:

You don't kick ass with your starting Qb. Nobody in the NFL plays that game. You want a good relationship with him. He's your leader on the field. This doesn't mean you give the guy an insane contract. A one year deal at starters money isn't insane it's fair. 

Agreed.  But Macc doesn't seem to really consider Fitz our "starting" QB.  Could he start?  Sure.  But he's not our/a "starter".

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1 minute ago, Skeptable said:

Fitz will retire before he becomes a back-up and we don't need him.  Petty will be cut and placed on practice squad.... No other team will sign a project like him and if they do they go and sign a back-up in the offseason. Fitz isn't going to be here beyond this year.

If he wants over 8 or 9 mil this year, he will be here beyond 2016 (or be forced to retire as you mentioned).

Thankfully though it's really looking like he may be gone for good now.

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1 minute ago, Rangers9 said:

Then don't start him even in 2016. If he feels that way don't sign him. 

I think that's what's currently unfolding.

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6 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

I think Brady is making a lot more than 14. And guys like Flacco and Brees are getting 20 plus. Average starter money is about 16 and we're about guys like Dalton. These are multi-year deals that sometimes exceed 100 mil. So one year for 12 doesn't commit you to a player or kill your cap. I mean Mo doesn't want the franchise tag and won't sign it and it's 16 mil. He wants more years and guaranteed money because in the NFL you can get cut and then you get nothing. Plus if you get injured you get nothing after that one year. With the multi year deal you get the value of the entire contract. So Fitz is giving up a lot and taking a chance by taking a one year contract. I think the Jets owe him more consideration begcause he got lower backup money last year and started every game. By the way the cap has gone up every year and that's to better compensate the players via higher salaries. 

The only thing Fitz would be "giving up" is retirement.

He.  Has.  No.  Other.  Options.

Teams.  Do.  Not.  Want.  Him.

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3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

now a year later he's going to retire?

Never gonna happen.  We're not that lucky.

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Just now, jfmckenna said:

You couldn't get laid in a women's prison with a handful of pardons.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well duh.  Haven't you watched Orange is the New Black?  They're all carpet munchers.

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2 minutes ago, Larz said:

hey mike, this is your boss talking.  you had a great year last year, well, for a mike135 type year that is.  you are borderline good, so we are prepared to offer you low end money for a poster of your status, but that's just for a year.  then we are locking you in for 2 years at jowilly money.  Now because of the new CBA you can't hold out and I will have your rights and I will decide your future.

whats that, you want to do a 1 year deal and bet on yourself ?

whats in it for me mike ?

 

Ha, creative and we'll done!  But I'd definitely take @joewilly12 money.  That's gotta be like 20mil per.

What I'd do though?  Initially I'd say "screw you" and go check my inbox for offers from other forums.  

...  checking ...

...  still checking ...

hmmmmmm... no offers...  :-k

"Hey Boss, yeah, man that deal sounds great.  Sign me up!"

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16 minutes ago, Larz said:

hey mike, this is your boss talking.  you had a great year last year, well, for a mike135 type year that is.  you are borderline good, so we are prepared to offer you low end money for a poster of your status, but that's just for a year.  then we are locking you in for 2 years at jowilly money.  Now because of the new CBA you can't hold out and I will have your rights and I will decide your future.

whats that, you want to do a 1 year deal and bet on yourself ?

whats in it for me mike ?

 

 

10 minutes ago, Mike135 said:

Ha, creative and we'll done!  But I'd definitely take @joewilly12 money.  That's gotta be like 20mil per.

What I'd do though?  Initially I'd say "screw you" and go check my inbox for offers from other forums.  

...  checking ...

...  still checking ...

hmmmmmm... no offers...  :-k

"Hey Boss, yeah, man that deal sounds great.  Sign me up!"

However in an ideal world the continuation would go like...

Boss:  "Sorry mike, ya took too long.  @Villain The Foe has been kickin' @ss.  We'll still take ya back, but at @Rangers9 money (5mil per) to backup Villain."

Me:  "$hit."

I fire my agent.  Then check my inbox for other forum offers as a backup poster.  Couple offers for 3 to 4mil.  ](*,)

Me:  "Hey Boss, OK I'll take it.  Thrilled to be on board!"

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Just now, ylekram said:

if we are going to use a tier system, than its 3 tiers, not 2

And Fitz is in the 4th.

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6 minutes ago, ylekram said:

mike, sometimes you just try to damn hard. take a deep breath and take it easy

Now that's what I expect from a Fitz a supporter.  Learn that week 17?

Me?...  Never Give Up!

 

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2 minutes ago, ylekram said:

if I were you,i would take that never give up attitude to mac and tell him how you feel. you might make a difference. your efforts are being wasted here

Lol, hey the poll told us a lot.  Besides that was a 6min video.  You replied in like 3.  No way ya watched it.  Ya should.  May help you break out of settling for mediocrity.

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