New York Mick Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 18 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: The Pats have won the AFCE for the last 8 straight years and have played in the AFCCG the last 5 straight years. Who the hell cares who contributes and who doesn't if the team always wins? Fans of losing organizations cheer for individual players; fans of winning organizations only care about the overall team. In all fairness you guys cheated like a son of a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 1 minute ago, New York Mick said: In all fairness you guys cheated like a son of a bitch. Yeah but then Mr 9 million posts on jet messageboards wouldn't be a pats fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 15 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Ever hear of Joe Flacco? Eh, 1 playoff season hot streak. Should have said top QB the way you're predicting Lynch will become. Or should I say trolling Now name 1 top QB from a spread offense who developed into a NFL top QB. i won't ask for one from both lists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jett Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 5 hours ago, drdetroit said: Lynch will be a dud. All you haters b-ching about the draft will be looking silly this Fall. A postive post about a first round pick? I must be in bizarro world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 22 minutes ago, jett said: A postive post about a first round pick? I must be in bizarro world I don't know who you can get more in trouble for saying something positive about Geno or Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Time will tell, but I have high hopes for Lee. Bowles has used players with his type of skill set very well in the past. He's fast, young, a top notch athlete, and has a great nose for the football. It's going to be very fun watching Pryor and Lee flying around on the field together for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 5 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: If anyone thinks rookie production is/was the real value in drafting Lynch, this is the first I've heard of it. But ok. Hopefully Lynch is a bust and Lee is a stud. I wouldn't mind if they both ended up being studs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 7 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Name a 6' 6" QB to ever play well and become a real NFL QB Joe Flacco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 8 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: The Pats have won the AFCE for the last 8 straight years and have played in the AFCCG the last 5 straight years. Who the hell cares who contributes and who doesn't if the team always wins? Fans of losing organizations cheer for individual players; fans of CHEATING organizations only care about WINNING. Fixed it. You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 13 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: Teams that win the AFCE and play in the AFCCG a zillion years in a row do not need first round draft picks. This is the newest rhetoric is dbag land. "The Pats only cheat to help keep the playing field level" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 12 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: The Pats have won the AFCE for the last 8 straight years and have played in the AFCCG the last 5 straight years. Who the hell cares who contributes and who doesn't if the team always wins? Fans of losing organizations cheer for individual players; fans of winning organizations only care about the overall team. You guys are in for a huge sh*tfest when Brady hangs em up. He's the one guy that's covered Belichick for his bad draft picks & allowed him to trade guys like Seymour & Jones. I can't wait to see the empty seats in Gillette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 This is the newest rhetoric is dbag land. "The Pats only cheat to help keep the playing field level" Level playing field? The Pats have totally dominated the NFL for the last 15 straight years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 29 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Level playing field? The Pats have totally dominated the NFL for the last 15 straight years. By cheating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 47 minutes ago, Jetster said: You guys are in for a huge sh*tfest when Brady hangs em up. He's the one guy that's covered Belichick for his bad draft picks & allowed him to trade guys like Seymour & Jones. I can't wait to see the empty seats in Gillette. Dude don't you get it Belichick has a QB stable up in foxboro. Cassell, Mallett, Hoyer, O'Connel. Next up is Janine Garofolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 14 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Name a 6' 6" QB to ever play well and become a real NFL QB I bet the the Foe will say Mike Glennon.. Wait he's 6'7 does that still count?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 13 hours ago, DoubleDown said: Time will tell, but I have high hopes for Lee. Bowles has used players with his type of skill set very well in the past. He's fast, young, a top notch athlete, and has a great nose for the football. It's going to be very fun watching Pryor and Lee flying around on the field together for years to come. "He's fast, young, a top notch athlete, and has a great nose for the football. It's going to be very fun watching Pryor and Lee flying around on the field together for years to come." Precisely. He is the future of LB's in the NFL. Versatile hybrid S/LBs that can fly all over the field and do whatever is asked of them- cover, blitz, play zone, shoot the gap, spy, etc. And I completely agree that Pryor and Lee will work in concert together making for a dangerous tandem. I find it ridiculous that some posters on this forum completely disregard Lee as nothing but a shrimpy LB. It shows how little they know about the type of player he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 14 hours ago, DoubleDown said: Time will tell, but I have high hopes for Lee. Bowles has used players with his type of skill set very well in the past. He's fast, young, a top notch athlete, and has a great nose for the football. It's going to be very fun watching Pryor and Lee flying around on the field together for years to come. My only concern is when we play a team like the Pats, with 2 very big tight ends. They can run right at him and blow him backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 15 minutes ago, chirorob said: My only concern is when we play a team like the Pats, with 2 very big tight ends. They can run right at him and blow him backwards. Put Darron in coverage and have Pryor give light coverage himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Just now, Patriot Killa said: Put Darron in coverage and have Pryor give light coverage himself. Not so much in pass coverage, but with that can can run off tackle and have Big Gronk or the other dude (names, I am old and can't remember) blocking him.... 270 pounds vs 225. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 4 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: Level playing field? The Pats have totally dominated the NFL for the last 15 straight years. And you've been a worthless POS for exactly that long, so as usual, you have no point besides being a dick. This thread is about Darron Lee. GTFO and die, Garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeacon Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 17 minutes ago, chirorob said: My only concern is when we play a team like the Pats, with 2 very big tight ends. They can run right at him and blow him backwards. In most situations this would be a major concern but not with the roster we have right now. With Wilkerson, Richardson, Williams and McLenon up front the big uglies can take care of the run while Harris can provide the thump. Lee will be there for Lewis or Edelmen on those drive sustaining wheel routes that turn 2 yards into 15 for the first down. If Lee stands up to his pedigree our d will have no major weakness that teams can pick on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, jdeacon said: In most situations this would be a major concern but not with the roster we have right now. With Wilkerson, Richardson, Williams and McLenon up front the big uglies can take care of the run while Harris can provide the thump. Lee will be there for Lewis or Edelmen on those drive sustaining wheel routes that turn 2 yards into 15 for the first down. If Lee stands up to his pedigree our d will have no major weakness that teams can pick on. Precisely. This is not really Lee's responsibility. He's not going to be asked to set the edge. Shoot the gap, sure, but I'm not too concerned with big TEs as their hads will be full with our D-line and OLBs. If Lee is used correctly (and nobody better than Bowles to figure out the best way to use him) he will stay away from the line of scrimmage unless he is blitzing. I expect him to play a lot of zone and man coverage with help over the top. I think he will be used as a blitzer quite often as well (run blitz and pass blitz). And he will help vs. the run while having zone responsibilities b/c he has a great nose for the ball and sideline to sideline speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Everyone knows that I think the Darron Lee is a complete waste of time. Undersized, will get consumed by blockers, etc., etc., etc. However, I am done complaining about it. We'll just have to see how it all works out. I will only believe this guy can help the defense when I see it with my own two eyes. Right now? I think the Jets are headed into an exceptionally bad season consisting of a losing record, an offense that is exposed, Fitz can't get any protection and therefore does not perform well. But I also do not see Darron Lee making this defense better. The Jets needed a difference maker in this draft in order to become a better team and Darron Lee is not that guy. But once again, we'll see how it all works out and I truly hope I am wrong. I would to think that Mac actually made this team better over the long haul. Right now, I do not believe that to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 25 minutes ago, chirorob said: Not so much in pass coverage, but with that can can run off tackle and have Big Gronk or the other dude (names, I am old and can't remember) blocking him.... 270 pounds vs 225. This is the reason why we drafted him. In your perfect world who would be able to cover Gronk, and also shed his block? Obviously this is a mismatch when he's healthy against anyone in the league. We are hoping not to have to use a sub package against him. I'm sure we will still have to bracket him somewhat. Lee will hopefully be able to tackle better than a safety, and cover better than a Demario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 18 minutes ago, NYs Stepchild said: This is the reason why we drafted him. In your perfect world who would be able to cover Gronk, and also shed his block? Obviously this is a mismatch when he's healthy against anyone in the league. We are hoping not to have to use a sub package against him. I'm sure we will still have to bracket him somewhat. Lee will hopefully be able to tackle better than a safety, and cover better than a Demario. I cover better than a Demario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 9 minutes ago, chirorob said: I cover better than a Demario How much do you weigh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 21 hours ago, neckdemon said: wilkerson is not holding out and passing up 15 million He better stay away from fireworks in a couple weeks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 20 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: Teams that win the AFCE and play in the AFCCG a zillion years in a row do not need first round draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 On June 17, 2016 at 11:42 AM, PepPep said: "He's fast, young, a top notch athlete, and has a great nose for the football. It's going to be very fun watching Pryor and Lee flying around on the field together for years to come." Precisely. He is the future of LB's in the NFL. Versatile hybrid S/LBs that can fly all over the field and do whatever is asked of them- cover, blitz, play zone, shoot the gap, spy, etc. And I completely agree that Pryor and Lee will work in concert together making for a dangerous tandem. I find it ridiculous that some posters on this forum completely disregard Lee as nothing but a shrimpy LB. It shows how little they know about the type of player he is. The future is now. The era of 270lb slow linebackers is over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlemnite1 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 On June 16, 2016 at 11:34 PM, Beerfish said: Our Liliputian LB will be swallowed like Captain ahab by opposing lines when Shel gets suspended again and mo wilk holds out. So agree with you. Lee was not a good pick or fit for the Jets. He is not a sideline to sideline guy and his tackling is not the best. Not thrilled at all with Hackenberg either. On June 16, 2016 at 11:34 PM, Beerfish said: Our Liliputian LB will be swallowed like Captain ahab by opposing lines when Shel gets suspended again and mo wilk holds out. Jenkins is the best pick of the Jets 2016 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlemnite1 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 On June 17, 2016 at 7:39 PM, PepPep said: Precisely. This is not really Lee's responsibility. He's not going to be asked to set the edge. Shoot the gap, sure, but I'm not too concerned with big TEs as their hads will be full with our D-line and OLBs. If Lee is used correctly (and nobody better than Bowles to figure out the best way to use him) he will stay away from the line of scrimmage unless he is blitzing. I expect him to play a lot of zone and man coverage with help over the top. I think he will be used as a blitzer quite often as well (run blitz and pass blitz). And he will help vs. the run while having zone responsibilities b/c he has a great nose for the ball and sideline to sideline speed. That's the problem with the Lee pick he will never be a 3 down LB. As soon as teams see him in they will run at him. Every guard and tackle will pancake that guy. His teammates will have to leave their responsibilities and help him out. This was a luxury pick the Jets didn't have the luxury to make. They really need offensive line help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlemnite1 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 On June 17, 2016 at 1:46 AM, Patriot Killa said: Well looking at the past few years barely any of your 1st round picks have made much contribution. Mo, Richardson, Pryors coming along and Williams looks like he will be a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlemnite1 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 On June 17, 2016 at 1:54 AM, Jet Nut said: Name a 6' 6" QB to ever play well and become a real NFL QB Brock Osweiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Harlemnite1 said: Brock Osweiler Welcome to the board.... and good call! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Harlemnite1 said: That's the problem with the Lee pick he will never be a 3 down LB. As soon as teams see him in they will run at him. Every guard and tackle will pancake that guy. His teammates will have to leave their responsibilities and help him out. This was a luxury pick the Jets didn't have the luxury to make. They really need offensive line help. Well, the fact that Mo, Sheldon, Williams, Jenkins and McClendon will be in front of him and Harris and Mauldin beside him, and he's as fast as a lightning bolt, I'd give him pretty good odds that he stays upright most of the game. Think Deon Buchannon..... blitz the Qb and cover the RB's out of the backfield, be the Tyrod Taylor, Russel Wilson "Spy" and chip Edelman/Gronk coming off the line. Thia guy gives us a lot of flexibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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