Gas2No99 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Record-setting QB adjusting to tight end for Jets By Dom Cosentino | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com Jason Vander Laan isn't just a rookie undrafted free agent adjusting to the NFL. He's a rookie free agent adjusting to the NFL while also learning an entirely new position. Jets Christian Hackenberg throws, is asked about inaccuracyJets rookie quarterback Christian Hackenberg participates during Day 3 of the New York Jets minicamp and answers a question about his inaccuracy throwing the ball. 6/16/2016 (Andrew Mills | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com) Vander Laan had a decorated college career at Ferris State. He twice won the Harlon Hill Trophy, which is the Division II equivalent of the Heisman Trophy. He's college football's all-time leader in rushing yards (5,953) and by a quarterback. He's the first player in NCAA history to run and pass for 1,000 yards for four straight seasons. And the Jets signed him just after the draft to be a tight end. "He has some toughness, he has things on film," Jets head coach Todd Bowles said. "I think a lot of people convert and project. Some people use basketball guys, some people use big quarterbacks from smaller schools. We saw something in him that we wanted to see if we had the ability to learn it, and the ability to grow and get better at it." The 6-foot-4, 244-pound Vander Laan discovered as the pre-draft process played out that his best shot at making the NFL would be as a tight end. When the Chicago-area native he worked out at Northwestern's pro day, only the Bears and Patriots were interested in having him play quarterback. Vander Laan did not have any private workouts or visits with the Jets before the draft, but the organization was in touch with him. After the draft, Vander Laan said, "four or five" teams showed interest in signing him as a UDFA, and that his decision came down to the Jets and Washington. There was much to learn. Vander Laan had never played tight end or receiver before. He spent his first two or three weeks getting familiar with the playbook. "You can't even think about what you're trying to do physically, just because you're worried about where to line up, what motion to do, stuff like that," Vander Laan said. "Sometimes you'll be pass-blocking when you're off the ball, sometimes you'll be on the ball, sometimes you'll be in the backfield. Sometimes you're checking out the backer, sometimes it's a D-linemen. "A lot of that stuff is crazy in my head for the first couple weeks. It's starting to settle in." Though tight end was not prominently featured in the Jets' passing game last year, Vander Laan has plenty of competition. There's veteran Kellen Davis, plus Jace Amaro and Zach Sudfeld—who both spent last season on injured reserve—along with Brandon Bostick and Wes Saxton, who spent last season on the practice squad. Jets tight ends coach Jimmie Johnson was impressed by Vander Laan during organized team activities and minicamp. "The transition has been a whole lot smoother than I thought it would be for a guy that's never played the position," Johnson said. Johnson doesn't see Vander Laan becoming a Y (in-line) tight end because of Vander Laan's lack of experience as a blocker, but Johnson said Vander Laan could have a future as an H-back—a role that has had a place in the Jets' offense under coordinator Chan Gailey. Vander Laan's biggest challenge will be learning to block—he had never blocked before. While OTAs and minicamp did not allow for any contact, he did have a chance to work on where he places his feet, what kind of stance he ought to be in, and the kind of technique the defense is playing. Now that he's up to speed on the playbook, Vander Laan has also dipped into some film study of last year's Jets, to see what to do and what not to do as a blocker. "I can kind of see how he's taking his steps, how he's placing his helmet, what kind of leverage the D-end has," Vander Laan said. "I'm just kind of comparing what I would do in practice to what other people have done in games. "I"m happy with where I'm at, and where I'm going, but there's definitely a lot of work I still need to do." Dom Cosentino may be reached at dcosentino@njadvancemedia.com. Follow him on Twitter @domcosentino. Find NJ.com Jets on Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 29 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Why? Why what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Be so nice to have something like this actually work out for the Jets. I would say H-back is probably more likely. Kinda crazy he is just "learning" to block at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 We have too many bad TE's and not enough good TE's worth throwing the ball to. Best of luck to the kid, shame he has to whore out as a TE to get a shot because the NFL is more conservative than Rush Limbaugh when it comes to QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 40 minutes ago, BroadwayJets said: Why what? Dont we need a QB??????? Leave it to the Jets to take a star QB and turn him into a TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Jason Vander Laan Please tell me he's an importer/exporter on the side. In latex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 29 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Please tell me he's an importer/exporter on the side. In latex. No.......... but he is an architect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 3 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Why? After being told by scouts that he was too much of a “tweener” to make the NBA, Gates (6′4″) arranged a workout in front of NFL scouts. Despite never playing football in college,[8] as many as 19 teams were believed to have contacted Gates about a tryout. Gates chose to work out first for the San Diego Chargers. Recognizing his potential, the Chargers immediately signed him to a contract as an undrafted free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 We need someone to run the wildcat now with Kerley gone... just sayin'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 1 hour ago, NYs Stepchild said: After being told by scouts that he was too much of a “tweener” to make the NBA, Gates (6′4″) arranged a workout in front of NFL scouts. Despite never playing football in college,[8] as many as 19 teams were believed to have contacted Gates about a tryout. Gates chose to work out first for the San Diego Chargers. Recognizing his potential, the Chargers immediately signed him to a contract as an undrafted free agent. Monday, Wednesday and Friday are "look under every rock" to find talent days. Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday are "why" days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Kleckineau said: No.......... but he is an architect. I thought Marine Biologist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Hes gotta throw better than Tebow. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Lupz27 said: I thought Marine Biologist. The sea was angry that day, my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 16 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Why? To drive the old guys crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 If he's successful at TE will Teboners insist the NFL didn't give Tebow a chance to become a TE or insist he made the transition because he is just not as good of a QB as Tebow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Can Hackenburg block? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 16 hours ago, Kleckineau said: No.......... but he is an architect. Not to mention practically Latvian Orthodox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 14 hours ago, Lupz27 said: I thought Marine Biologist. I thought he was a hand model... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 This guy is big and strong and this guy can run. If he can show he is a capable blocker and can catch the ball, he could very well play TE in the NFL. This is an experiment and odds are he will end up on the practice squad. But I'm pulling for the guy. Only Amaro is safe right now. Everyone else could potentially get cut if another player emerges or becomes available in FA. Not to mention that Sudfeld is coming off an injury and Davis is dealing with an existing injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 He needs to put some pounds on. I'm tired of this H back gimmick BS, I want the real deal TE. The guy that can block in the running game even when the defense knows that the offense is going to run and the guy that can catch passes. Jace Amaro SUCKS. Zach Sudfeld is easily a more complete TE than Sudfeld will ever be.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 7 minutes ago, Mainejet said: . Zach Sudfeld is easily a more complete TE than Sudfeld will ever be.. Your posts are very much all like drunken, emotional, repetitive rants. Even when you are sober, none of them ever use any logic or sound reasoning. "Sudfeld is better than Sudfeld"? LOL. Have another Newcastle but keep your guns locked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Just now, Dcat said: Your posts are very much all like drunken, emotional, repetitive rants. Even when you are sober, none of them ever use any logic or sound reasoning. "Sudfeld is better than Sudfeld"? LOL. Have another Newcastle but keep your guns locked up. You knew I meant Amaro, get over yourself.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 6 hours ago, Mainejet said: He needs to put some pounds on. I'm tired of this H back gimmick BS, I want the real deal TE. The guy that can block in the running game even when the defense knows that the offense is going to run and the guy that can catch passes. Jace Amaro SUCKS. Zach Sudfeld is easily a more complete TE than Sudfeld will ever be.. You're always so infatuated with how big our players are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 2 hours ago, rex-n-effect said: You're always so infatuated with how big our players are. It's because he is old and thinks a team should be built like they were in the 70's. Someone forgot to tell him that football has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no psls Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 On 6/28/2016 at 9:56 PM, BUM-KNEE said: Hes gotta throw better than Tebow. Right? My pet beagle throws better than Tebow . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 9 hours ago, no psls said: My pet beagle throws better than Tebow . Hmmmmm, can your beagle block too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 On 6/29/2016 at 0:32 PM, Mainejet said: He needs to put some pounds on. I'm tired of this H back gimmick BS, I want the real deal TE. The guy that can block in the running game even when the defense knows that the offense is going to run and the guy that can catch passes. Jace Amaro SUCKS. Zach Sudfeld is easily a more complete TE than Sudfeld will ever be.. Jace Amaro is one of the largest framed guys I've ever seen. You should love him. Sudfeld is skinny compared to him. Neither of them were anywhere near being considered a "complete" TE when last we saw them on the field, but both have the potential to become decent blockers. Neither of them did any inline blocking in college. We'll see which if either has been working on that during their sabbaticals. Amaro has far superior route running skills. Yeah he dropped a few but was open far more often. In fact he seemed to be open almost every time he ran a route. For some reason Marty kept trotting Cumberland out there instead. I never understand why people don't see that drop rate is a relative stat. I realize that you see the drops and that is what you remember, but what's important is completion %. The percentage of balls caught which are thrown to you. Amaro's was 71.7% (38 catches on 53 targets) as a rookie with Geno throwing to him. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Geno's completion % was slightly lower than that on the whole. Sudfeld's % is about the same but a far lower sample size 5 catches on 7 targets. I think they both have outstanding potential. From a size/strength/athleticism standpoint they are as capable as anyone. If they work hard and stay healthy we could hypothetically go from worst to the best duo in football. I think one of them becoming a competent blocker and a very good receiving TE and the other becoming a decent H back red zone threat is not unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Deceiving thread title. I thought this was going to be about Fitz moving to TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 15 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: Deceiving thread title. I thought this was going to be about Fitz moving to TE. Wrong can we discuss your all-time favorite football player instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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