David Harris Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Devon Smith is almost definitely going to start the season on the pup list and will be out the first six weeks. Enunwa by default. Personally I'm not a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Just tossing this out there so I can bring it back up in December. Tompkins is going to play a bigger roll then last year. Going to get run as the number three problem is like people have stated, if Geno starting it won't matter, he has never gotten to his #3 wr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 16 minutes ago, Joe Jets fan said: Just tossing this out there so I can bring it back up in December. Tompkins is going to play a bigger roll then last year. Going to get run as the number three problem is like people have stated, if Geno starting it won't matter, he has never gotten to his #3 wr. To be honest about Geno his best WR may have been a number 3 aside from Decker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 As the Jets get close to training camp, I am going to examine the roster and give you my top 25 players. Each weekday, we will reveal another person on the list, leading right into camp. I am not including rookies on this list because I do not feel it is possible to fully evaluate them before they play a game. I also am not including Ryan Fitzpatrick on the list because he is not technically a Jet at this time. No. 17: Quincy Enunwa Last year’s ranking: Not ranked Position: Wide receiver Age: 24 How acquired: Selected in the sixth round of the 2014 Draft Years left on contract: 2 2016 Salary Cap figure: $525,000 Looking back at 2015: The 2014 draft pick was an afterthought entering training camp last year. Even wide receivers coach Karl Dorrell admitted recently he was unsure Enunwa even would make the team. But offensive coordinator Chan Gailey fell in love with his 6-foot-2, 225-pound size and the flexibility it gave the offense, and Enunwa gained a big role in 2015.The only skill players to play more on offense last season were Brandon Marshall, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Eric Decker and Chris Ivory. Enunwa was in on 45 percent of the Jets’ offensive snaps. He finished the year with 22 catches for 315 yards, and had a huge role in the running game as a blocker, sometimes working as a tight end and an H-back. After serving a four-game suspension in mid-year, Enunwa really came on at the end of the season. He had four catches for 49 yards in a win over the Cowboys in December, including a clutch 24-yard catch on a third-and-14 in the fourth quarter that set up the go-ahead touchdown for the Jets. He followed that up a week later with 48-yard catch against the Patriots in overtime that set up the game-winning touchdown. Outlook for 2016: Enunwa earned himself more playing time in 2016 by the way he played last year. He figures to start off the season in the same role, playing in the slot with some time as H-back and tight end.When Devin Smith returns from ACL surgery, that might cut into Enunwa’s playing time if Gailey wants to get Smith on the outside with Decker in the slot. But Gailey is very creative with his personnel packages and surely will find a way to work Enunwa into games because of his value as a blocker. > http://nypost.com/2016/07/05/why-quincy-enunwa-is-now-an-indispensable-jet/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 On 7/4/2016 at 5:35 PM, BroadwayBen said: With Amaro back in the picture, I think it changes up the dynamics of the receiving corps. If you were to throw out Marshall, Decker, Enunwa, and Amaro, where is the speed? That's just four big bodied possession receivers. I think adding a Devin Smith (when healthy), or a Charone Peake could be an interesting dynamic to the mix. Enunwa spent most of his time in the slot, only motioning to Hback about 20% of the time. He ran as low as a 4.34 40 at 225 lbs. He is a fast WR and he was the 3rd receiver last year. He needs to cut down on the drops. Amaro and Q can certainly play at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Smith or Thompkins. I think Thompkins is big but our OC seems to like that in all our WRs. Pulling for both of these guys to contribute this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 42 minutes ago, NYs Stepchild said: Enunwa spent most of his time in the slot, only motioning to Hback about 20% of the time. He ran as low as a 4.34 40 at 225 lbs. He is a fast WR and he was the 3rd receiver last year. He needs to cut down on the drops. Amaro and Q can certainly play at the same time. He needs to run better routes too, dude has very little pivot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 On 7/4/2016 at 8:42 PM, David Harris said: Devon Smith is almost definitely going to start the season on the pup list and will be out the first six weeks. Enunwa by default. Personally I'm not a fan. We actually don't have depth at WR. Smith looks like a bust and the rest like Enunwa are scrubs. Amaro better have a big year. Forte will chip in on third down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 1 hour ago, BroadwayJets said: He needs to run better routes too, dude has very little pivot I don't think he's going to improve his hip flexibility. He's not going to become the next AJ but he is a mismatch at his size if he can hold onto the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 52 minutes ago, NYs Stepchild said: I don't think he's going to improve his hip flexibility. He's not going to become the next AJ but he is a mismatch at his size if he can hold onto the ball. He had 6(?) drops last season and 22 catches. Improved hands will decrease that number but they won't get him open. Unless Geno returns to his college glory days, I'd imagine his catch total decreases. I have Kenbrell being the number 3 to start the season (with a healthy Devin Smith behind that), Peake next, then Enunwa - With Enunwa playing more H-back. If he can only get open against LBs majority of the time, I'd leave him as is at h-back, which is likely where he's most valuable to this offense. It's good to have depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Forte. End of thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 On 7/4/2016 at 8:47 PM, Joe Jets fan said: Just tossing this out there so I can bring it back up in December. Tompkins is going to play a bigger roll then last year. Going to get run as the number three problem is like people have stated, if Geno starting it won't matter, he has never gotten to his #3 wr. This is a silly statement in this context. Sometimes the #3 man on the depth chart is the primary receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 On 7/4/2016 at 9:00 AM, CrazyCarl40 said: In terms of receptions I actually expect Forte to be the third primary option. Is Devin Smith even going to be ready? Forte is going to be a bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 You guys are crazy! Enunwa is already #3 especially with the addition of Forte in the backfield. Bilal Powell was incredibly effective in Chan Gaileys offense, and Bilal Powell is no Matt Forte. Enunwas the only triple threat we have at 3rd WR. 1st, he's the best blocking WR on the roster, which makes swing passes to a guy as silky smooth as Forte an even bigger threat on delayed swing passes to the flat. 2nd, if you forget about him like the Pats did he'll take a short pass & barrel his way for a 50 yard gain like he did against the Pats. 3rd, he has the strength to stiff arm smaller tacklers so if teams want to keep their LBs close to the LOS to check Forte, you could have a matchup of Enunwa on a 180 LB Nickle CB with a forearm shiver. Unlike other Jet fans, I think Enunwa is gonna have a breakout season. I'm not saying he's gonna catch 50 passes, but his catches are going to be huge game changing physical YAC runs that pump up the fans & players. Once guys with the size & speed of Enunwa gain just a little confidence from the coaches (Gailey) and his own teammates they usually take that next step. Enunwa will be a poor mans Terrell Owens, but playing alongside Marshall, Decker, Amaro, Forte, Powell, it's an Ace in the Hole that will likely turn into a few unexpected wins for our Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 4 hours ago, johnnysd said: Forte is going to be a bust That is a seriously stupid comment. No way you've ever actually watched a game he's played in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 On July 4, 2016 at 11:49 AM, aec4 said: If geno smith is qb it doesn't make a difference. If option 1 isn't there he checks down or takes the sack. Oh wait, he just forces it to option 1 for the pick 6 You forgot that he tends to take a safety when he forgets where he is, and the sack is usually a 20-30 yard loss. Hopefully he is a new man after getting his jaw broken. But I won't hold my breath, and yes I'm pulling for him because he is a Jet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 5 hours ago, Jetster said: That is a seriously stupid comment. No way you've ever actually watched a game he's played in. Running backs fall off a cliff in performance. I think that will happen with Forte. Be nice if I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 6 hours ago, johnnysd said: Running backs fall off a cliff in performance. I think that will happen with Forte. Be nice if I am wrong. I don't think I have ever seen you be right on anything, so I think Forte could be expected to have a very good season this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 On July 8, 2016 at 8:21 PM, FTL Jet Fan said: You forgot that he tends to take a safety when he forgets where he is, and the sack is usually a 20-30 yard loss. Hopefully he is a new man after getting his jaw broken. But I won't hold my breath, and yes I'm pulling for him because he is a Jet. I don't think getting your jaw broken makes you smarter on the football field unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 On July 4, 2016 at 9:44 AM, kelly said: ~ ~ Who is going to be our #3 WR since we cut Kerley? Owusu, Peake, etc ? It'll change weekly, but collectively it will likely be the defenders Fitzpatrick/Geno throw to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 On July 4, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gas2No99 said: In terms of # of PLAYS on the field I believe either Amaro/Enunwa will be the tertiary target as the mobile H-Back. But the player to put up the best #s as a WR in terms of production (supposedly behind Marshall & Decker) will be . . . . . Jalin Marshall - 5'10" 200 lbs. WR Rookie Ohio State. His quickness & shiftiness is the type of player we still lack on this roster and haven't had since a 2011 Jeremy Kerley, 2006 Leon Washington, or 1998 Wayne Chrebet. I like Quincy but he'll most likely be utilized as a crack-down blocker with few, but crucial, receptions and offers rare YAC. Amaro is a TE who hasn't touched the field in OVER a year and will be RUSTY. Devin Smith's greatest asset is worthless if Fitzy returns or if Geno still can't make a 2nd progression read. In addition, in the Urban Jungle, OSU has prepared its players to know what to expect in the Pros; Mashall should be fine and shine in TC Jalin Marshall is my darkhorse for surprise out of TC and the WR that will put up the 3rd best #s behind DeckMarsh to thus be, the #3 WR. If you said Jalin Marshall could win the returning job, I would say that was quite possible. There is no chance Jalin Marshall has a big role at Wr , or his numbers are the 3rd best on the Jets. For simple fact that Bowles and staff prefer big Wr's over smaller shifty Wr's. ( See J Kerley -gone) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 4 hours ago, Raideraholic said: If you said Jalin Marshall could win the returning job, I would say that was quite possible. There is no chance Jalin Marshall has a big role at Wr , or his numbers are the 3rd best on the Jets. For simple fact that Bowles and staff prefer big Wr's over smaller shifty Wr's. ( See J Kerley -gone) . You have always been wrong on so many levels, that your skepticism will only further validate my position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 If this year is anything like last year the third target is going to be the checkdown RB on the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 On 7/8/2016 at 3:37 PM, johnnysd said: Forte is going to be a bust AFC East Q&A: How about Matt Forte or Reggie Ragland as best newcomer? play Jul 5, 2016 ESPN.com Facebook Twitter Pinterest Email print comment Unlike at this time last year, the AFC East hasn't had much headline-grabbing activity, in terms of player acquisitions. Besides the Patriots, each team had a signature 2015 move that dominated the discussion: cornerback Darrelle Revis (Jets), defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh (Dolphins) and running back LeSean McCoy(Bills). Meanwhile, New England still feels good about signing free-agent defensive end Jabaal Sheard, whose name recognition doesn't match the aforementioned trio but who played a significant role in helping the Patriots clinch a seventh straight division title. Those newcomers all made a mark, and there were some impressive rookies as well, so now the question is: Who will do the same this year? Mike Rodak, Buffalo Bills reporter: That's not an easy question. I'm hesitant to give this to any rookie, so I'll choose between the Jets' Matt Forte and Ryan Clady, as well as the Patriots' Martellus Bennett. Each veteran is coming off a down season shortened by injuries, but when these players are healthy, they are among the best at their positions. I'll go with Bennett because of the Tom Brady factor. James Walker, Miami Dolphins reporter: It's always risky to pick a 30-year-old running back, but the free-agent signing of Forte is going to pay quality dividends for the Jets. New York's quarterback position is in flux. The only sure thing about the Jets offensively is that they will run the football. They were in the top 10 last season in rushing yards (1,868) and rushing attempts (448). Forte will play a major role in the running and passing game. This is a player who rushed for 1,038 yards and had an astounding 102 receptions for the Bears in 2014. He isn't far removed from being that type of player. Forte will be one of this year's underrated free-agent pickups. Rich Cimini, New York Jets reporter: There are some intriguing rookies in the AFC East, beginning with Dolphins guard Laremy Tunsil, but the best newcomer is Forte. Since his rookie season in 2008, Forte has more yards from scrimmage (12,718) than any other player in the NFL. I bet that'll surprise some folks. He'll be the Jets' No. 1 back, so there will be no shortage of opportunities. The concern is his age, 30, which is taboo in the running back world. But I have a feeling he'll deliver another Forte-like season. Mike Reiss, New England Patriots reporter: Forte is a good choice as the best proven newcomer, and so is Bennett, but let's think outside the box here. If you picked Bills cornerback Ronald Darby as the answer to this question last season, you would be feeling pretty good right now. But few probably picked him because what indication was there that the second-round pick from Florida State would be that guy? That gives the Bills credibility in this category, and that's why I'll put my chips down on linebacker Reggie Ragland, the second-round pick from Alabama. When I think of Rex Ryan's Jets teams, David Harris was a stalwart at linebacker. Ragland could be the Bills' version of Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 Pro Football Focus unsurprisingly looked more kindly on the Jets' defensive front seven than on their quarterback situation. PFF ranked the Jets' defensive front as the NFL's 10th-best, while ranking their quarterback situation as the league's worst. Now PFF is ranking the league's top receiving groups (wide receivers and tight ends). The Jets should do pretty well in this list, right? As it turns out, PFF ranks the Jets' receiving group 11th, which isn't bad at all. Here's the justification from PFF: Projected starters: WR Brandon Marshall, WR Eric Decker, WR Devin Smith, TE Jace Amaro Key depth: WR Quincy Enuwa, WR Charone Peake, TE Kellen Davis Key stat: The 26 combined touchdowns between Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker were the most by a WR duo in 2015. Analysis: The New York Jets don't seem to know who will start at quarterback for them in 2016, but whoever it is has a talented duo at wide receiver to help him out. 16th and 22nd in 2015 overall grades, respectively, Marshall and Decker combined for 2,529 yards and 26 touchdowns a year ago. Both still have room to improve, too, with 19 dropped passes between the pair in 2015. A name to watch here, particularly in the second half of 2016, is former Ohio State wide receiver Devin Smith. Smith suffered a punctured lung in trainingcamp last year, and then tore his ACL late in his rookie season, but led the 2015 wide receiver class in terms of yards on passes traveling 20+ yards downfield. If Marshall and Decker can repeat (or better) their 2015 levels, and Smith can make an impact in the second half of the season, this could be one of the most dynamic receiving corps in the league. A few follow-up points, if we may. Yes, Marshall and Decker are clearly the Jets' top two wide receivers. But Smith is coming off an ACL tear from December. So listing him as a starter is somewhat misleading. If you're looking for an early No. 3 receiver, you're probably talking about Enunwa, though he played a hybrid H-back/blocking role last season. Peake, a rookie seventh-round draft pick, must battle just to make the roster. Beyond Marshall, Decker, Enunwa, and Smith, Kenbrell Thompkins is probably a more notable guy to keep an eye on, as a depth-related contributor at receiver. He has more of a track record than Peake. PFF does make a valid point about Smith perhaps contributing later in the season, but at this point, he is still very much an unknown factor. Amaro, who is really entering Year 2 because he missed all of last season with a shoulder injury, is another intriguing factor who could complement Marshall and Decker in the Jets' passing game. But he is also far from proven. > http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2016/07/do_jets_have_a_top_10_receiving_group_for_2016.html#incart_river_index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 On 7/10/2016 at 1:51 AM, Sperm Edwards said: It'll change weekly, but collectively it will likely be the defenders Fitzpatrick/Geno throw to. With Devin Smith not putting up much if any effort to fight defenders for the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 NFL Network : Brandon Marshall a Top 5 WR NFL Media's Nate Burleson Analyzes the Best WRs in the NFL > http://www.newyorkjets.com/videos/videos/NFL-Network-Brandon-Marshall-a-Top-5-WR/4e18bd6f-1df2-4cd6-803e-448cdbb7d04e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 On 7/4/2016 at 5:35 PM, BroadwayBen said: With Amaro back in the picture, I think it changes up the dynamics of the receiving corps. If you were to throw out Marshall, Decker, Enunwa, and Amaro, where is the speed? That's just four big bodied possession receivers. I think adding a Devin Smith (when healthy), or a Charone Peake could be an interesting dynamic to the mix. You don't need blazing speed to have a good offense. Who's the burner in New England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 2 hours ago, drdetroit said: You don't need blazing speed to have a good offense. Who's the burner in New England? Brady is flaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 Breaking down the New York Jets' roster, unit by unit, in preparation for training camp : Position: Wide receiver Projected starters: Eric Decker, Brandon Marshall, Quincy Enunwa. Projected reserves: Kenbrell Thompkins, Jalin Marshall, Devin Smith(PUP). Notable on the bubble: Charone Peake, Jeremy Ross, Kyle Williams. Top storyline: The Jets know what they have in Decker and Brandon Marshall, among the top tandems in the NFL, so the story in camp will be everyone not named Decker and Marshall. There's a big falloff to the No. 3 position, and that's no small matter because the Jets live in three-receiver packages. Right now, the player at the top of the second tier is Enunwa, who came out of nowhere last season to finish with 22 receptions. He has potential as an inside receiver/quasi-tight end, but he must cut down on the drops -- five dropped passes in only 45 targets. The well-traveled Thompkins complements Decker and Marshall because he can play on the outside, allowing Decker to slide inside to the slot, where he dominated at times last season. Neither Thompkins nor Enunwa has breakaway speed. Player to watch: Maybe we should re-name this "Weight to Watch." Marshall revealed last month that coach Todd Bowles wants him to drop a few pounds, getting his weight under 230. Marshall was hardly out of shape last season. He set the franchise record for catches (109) and receiving yards (1,502). In fact, he became only the third player in NFL history to have at least 100 catches and 1,500 yards at the age of 31 or older. The others were Hall of Famer Jerry Rice and Andre Johnson. It was a great year for Marshall, who is battling the best shutdown corner of them all, Father Time. Losing a few pounds can only make him better. Training camp will be a success if ...: Marshall and Decker are healthy and happy (see: Fitzpatrick, Ryan) and one of the kid receivers -- Peake, Jalin Marshall or Robby Anderson -- plays well enough to make the final 53. They will help their chances if they can excel in the return game. Anderson is one of the fastest players on the team. Marshall was a productive kick returner at Ohio State. Wild card: Smith, seven months removed from major knee surgery, is expected to begin camp on the physically-unable-to-perform list. Chances are, he won't be ready by the start of the season, which means a minimum six weeks on PUP. He's an important part of the puzzle, because he brings much-needed home-run potential to the passing game. By the numbers: For all their success last season, the Jets' receivers could've done a better job of gaining yards after the catch. The Jets finished with 1,895 yards, ranking 15th in the league, per ESPN Stats & Information. > http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/61314/jets-challenge-at-wr-find-a-partner-for-brandon-marshall-eric-decker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no psls Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 It doesn't matter if we have no QB !!! SIGN FITZ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 The more I think about this the more I am troubled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted July 27, 2016 Author Share Posted July 27, 2016 HUGE TURNAROUND FOR JETS' WR CORPS It's easy to forget now, but Gang Green's group of receivers collected just eight touchdowns in 2014. Adding Brandon Marshall and Ryan Fitzpatrick flipped a switch last season. > http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyj/new-york-jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 1 minute ago, kelly said: HUGE TURNAROUND FOR JETS' WR CORPS It's easy to forget now, but Gang Green's group of receivers collected just eight touchdowns in 2014. Adding Brandon Marshall and Ryan Fitzpatrick flipped a switch last season. > http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyj/new-york-jets It's a WR league today which is why I'm worried we have no depth. Passing up DGB and Funchess for Devin Smith is going to end up killing us unless Amaro can step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, drdetroit said: It's a WR league today which is why I'm worried we have no depth. Passing up DGB and Funchess for Devin Smith is going to end up killing us unless Amaro can step up. It's QB dependant, but I'm thinking there's a good chance Devin lives up to the hype this season with Geno Geno = good things for Devin and Peake Fitz = good for Q Marshall, Decker and Amaro will get theirs regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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