prime21 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Besides the fact that Richardson is probably better than Mo in the field, the safer choice of the two is paying Mo that big contract. Beside the character issue, this big contract that we gave Mo should be a steal over what Richardson would command in the near future. These contracts are just going to keep going up and up. What do do we do with Sheldon? He is one mistake away from a lengthy ban and although he bleeds green, you know he's a little ticking time bomb. He would fetch us a #1 but when do u trade him? If we wait til the final year then we may be in the same boat we where in with Mo where teams may not want to trade for a huge contract guy. I wish there was a way to keep this line intact but I just don't think it's feasible with so many other areas of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 If I'm Mac, I'd pray every night that Sheldon gets through the year without any incidents or injury, and that Williams emerges as the force we all think he will be. Then trade Sheldon after this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 16 minutes ago, Kevin L said: If I'm Mac, I'd pray every night that Sheldon gets through the year without any incidents or injury, and that Williams emerges as the force we all think he will be. Then trade Sheldon after this year. We also need SR to lay off any comments about how much money he thinks he's worth and what kind of contract he'll be looking for! Be a good soldier, Go "Beast Mode" on the field, keep your head down and your mouth shut and you should be able to get a good deal here or somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Play him this year than trade next offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 A lot can happen by the time Sheldon is a free agent I'm positive if he deserves to be here Macc will find a way to keep the best DL in the NFL together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Richardson is under "cheap" control for two more years. You hope he has a big year (10+ sacks) and keeps his nose clean. At that point you approach his people about an extension, if you can get it done sign him. If not you put him on the trade market before the 2017 draft and see what kind of package you can get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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no psls Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Sheldon's future ; a cellmate named Bubba !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I can think of a good way to save 8-12mil that can instead be put towards a Sheldon deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Hopefully a good and problem free 2016, lands a first or high second next draft, and then whatever happens from there...My guess is that he lands himself a big contract in FA and promptly falls off a cliff due to giving zero ****s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 6 hours ago, Kevin L said: If I'm Mac, I'd pray every night that Sheldon gets through the year without any incidents or injury, and that Williams emerges as the force we all think he will be. Then trade Sheldon after this year. I would say that probably is the plan because Richardson is going to want a ton of money, and while he may be worth it, it would wreck the salary cap. I could see the Jets getting a second round choice for him, but doubtful a first unless it was a low first round like 25-32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Lock up Sheldon when David Harris goes off the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I don't think he's as good as Mo plus he's a bit of a jackass. Aaron Donald is the benchmark for that position and he's not close to that type of talent. If Williams is good Sheldons expendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ06 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Mike Westoff was in the Jets locker room during mini camp and when he saw Sheldon Richardson he thought to himself "I'm 68 years old and I've got as much muscle as you do" It seems like Sheldon isn't somebody who works on his craft to be the best Comments on Sheldon at the 1:50 Mark https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/geico-sportsnite-westhoff-talks-wilkersons-long-term-deal-with-jets/189898654 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Sheldon is a good player. He's not close to as good as Wilk. An apt comparison would be Andy Dalton to Aaron Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 I could easily see him being the next Haynesworth or Donkeydick after he gets his payday. They need to tread very carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 The Jets have 3 potential all pro DEs for their 34 defensive front. It was in our best interest to lock up a player who cause no trouble, plays hard and has earned his pay day which is what the team did with Wilkerson . At any given point, injury or stupidity can make anyone of these players a memory to the Jets . Therefore, I think it is in the best interest of this franchise to move in a similar manner with all of these players when their contracts come up . How one handles themselves under pressure says much about one's character. Wilkerson it can be said, handled himself with class and dignity, That is all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 A little over a year ago these same posts were written only it was sign Richardson and trade Mo. He wasn't as good as fans thought. Funny how it's changed. its already been reported they've told rich to be the good soldier and he'll get his deal. Has a year to prove worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 We technically can keep sheldon around for 3 more years without having to lock him up (4 more if we back-to-back franchise tag - tho i know there's some players you can't do that too).. so there's no rush at the moment, but I definitely like the idea of moving him a year or so from now for a pick/chess piece. It's great to have all this muscle up front, but at some point it doesn't translate to a huge difference on the field. It's not like our defense stats jump up 33% because Sheldon's out there next to Mo and Williams. Where as our rushing numbers could go up 25-30% by adding a Cook, or Fournette next year for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 This all sounds like the same scenario the Jets had with those two DEs they drafted in 2000. So how did Shaun Ellis' & John Abraham's Jets career wind up being like? Mo & Sheldon may well have the same result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLiotta Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 They made Mo go out and earn it, Sheldon should know that he needs to do the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeJet22 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 49 minutes ago, Paradis said: We technically can keep sheldon around for 3 more years without having to lock him up (4 more if we back-to-back franchise tag - tho i know there's some players you can't do that too).. so there's no rush at the moment, but I definitely like the idea of moving him a year or so from now for a pick/chess piece. It's great to have all this muscle up front, but at some point it doesn't translate to a huge difference on the field. It's not like our defense stats jump up 33% because Sheldon's out there next to Mo and Williams. Where as our rushing numbers could go up 25-30% by adding a Cook, or Fournette next year for example. Rotating the three of them will keep them fresh, and the competition amongst themselves for snaps and notoriety can only be a plus for the Jets D. Win win. We're not Gurley type dynamic at RB, but versatile with Forte and Bilal (my boy) with a hint of Ivory with Robinson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 11 minutes ago, YankeeJet22 said: Rotating the three of them will keep them fresh, and the competition amongst themselves for snaps and notoriety can only be a plus for the Jets D. Win win. We're not Gurley type dynamic at RB, but versatile with Forte and Bilal (my boy) with a hint of Ivory with Robinson. There's definitely positives, don\t get me wrong. Having all 3 to rotate is a huge for the 4th quarter... but at some point, it doesn't translate to a huge difference on the score sheet... adding a piece elswhere can have a bigger impact on the WIN column EX jets defense with mo willams and sheldon = 2nd in the league Jets defense with Mo and williams = 5th in the league. definitely a downgrade but compare it to this; Jets offense with Forte and robinson = 14th in the league Jets offense with Forte and Cook = 4th in league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 5 hours ago, MTJ06 said: Mike Westoff was in the Jets locker room during mini camp and when he saw Sheldon Richardson he thought to himself "I'm 68 years old and I've got as much muscle as you do" It seems like Sheldon isn't somebody who works on his craft to be the best Comments on Sheldon at the 1:50 Mark https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/geico-sportsnite-westhoff-talks-wilkersons-long-term-deal-with-jets/189898654 That's cool. Did Mike Westhoff win Defensive Rookie of the Year in 2014? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 12 hours ago, MTJ06 said: Mike Westoff was in the Jets locker room during mini camp and when he saw Sheldon Richardson he thought to himself "I'm 68 years old and I've got as much muscle as you do" It seems like Sheldon isn't somebody who works on his craft to be the best Comments on Sheldon at the 1:50 Mark https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/geico-sportsnite-westhoff-talks-wilkersons-long-term-deal-with-jets/189898654 Yeah, but Westoff's muscles are all in his mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 22 hours ago, prime21 said: Besides the fact that Richardson is probably better than Mo in the field, the safer choice of the two is paying Mo that big contract. Beside the character issue, this big contract that we gave Mo should be a steal over what Richardson would command in the near future. These contracts are just going to keep going up and up. What do do we do with Sheldon? He is one mistake away from a lengthy ban and although he bleeds green, you know he's a little ticking time bomb. He would fetch us a #1 but when do u trade him? If we wait til the final year then we may be in the same boat we where in with Mo where teams may not want to trade for a huge contract guy. I wish there was a way to keep this line intact but I just don't think it's feasible with so many other areas of need. "I wish there was a way to keep this line intact but I just don't think it's feasible with so many other areas of need." There is. L.Williams will not need a big contract for a few years. If the young LBs (Lee, Jenkins, Mauldin) develop into starters, once the Jets move away from Harris, the only highly paid players in the front 7 are Sheldon and Wilk. Its very doable to keep both guys long term. Theres a lot of pieces that can be moved around, a lot of money that can be moved around, a lot of players that will not be part of this team two years from now. For now, Sheldons future is with the Jets and we really don't need to think about it until AT LEAST next offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ06 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 And the arrow on sheldons career has been pointing down ever since. Hopefully he can turn it around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ06 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 3 hours ago, long suffering jets fan said: Yeah, but Westoff's muscles are all in his mouth. Mouth muscles Sheldon > Westoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 No need to worry about Sheldon's future for 2 years. The Jets have already picked up his 2017 option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeJet22 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 20 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: No need to worry about Sheldon's future for 2 years. The Jets have already picked up his 2017 option. True. And LW in 4 years (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 2 hours ago, MTJ06 said: Mouth muscles Sheldon > Westoff ? Normally true, but not in this case. Suffices to say both have overly developed mouth muscles especially since Westy left the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MTJ06 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 5 hours ago, long suffering jets fan said: ? Normally true, but not in this case. Suffices to say both have overly developed mouth muscles especially since Westy left the sidelines. since he left the sidelines westy has a job where he is paid to talk, Sheldon is paid to play football and talks to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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