Lily Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Crusher, can we have alts? Also, I'm going to warn you guys, up front. there is no way I can completely balance this setup. It starts off balanced, but there are variables that could affect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Since you guys are considering Alts I will play Lily just try and get a few more signups we don't have to rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 10 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Whatevs. Me too. Ill play again once the jets win the superbowl. don't make me ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 16 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: Since you guys are considering Alts I will play Lily just try and get a few more signups we don't have to rush I'd like a little bit bigger game, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 2 hours ago, D P R said: Decker, Nolder & JC for scum. Don't even need to see a post to know that. *micdrop* H8 u so much. Can you please be town this game and stop trolling me to death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 18 minutes ago, Nolder said: H8 u so much. Can you please be town this game and stop trolling me to death? Uhhhh, errrrrr, he is s facking pirate . Ruthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckerfan Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 10 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Uhhhh, errrrrr, he is s facking pirate . Ruthless. he doesn't speak like one, must be a phony act Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Lily said: Crusher, can we have alts? Also, I'm going to warn you guys, up front. there is no way I can completely balance this setup. It starts off balanced, but there are variables that could affect it. There's a chance of that in all games, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 3 hours ago, Lily said: Crusher, can we have alts? Also, I'm going to warn you guys, up front. there is no way I can completely balance this setup. It starts off balanced, but there are variables that could affect it. Let me check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 5 hours ago, D P R said: Decker, Nolder & JC for scum. Don't even need to see a post to know that. *micdrop* With that team, scum wins in a walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 58 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Let me check Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 3 hours ago, Nolder said: H8 u so much. Can you please be town this game and stop trolling me to death? I think we both know that's impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 3 hours ago, Integrity28 said: There's a chance of that in all games, really. No. Not at all. Balance is balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, D P R said: No. Not at all. Balance is balance. You make being wrong an art form. Any game can start balanced and lose it due to dumb luck. It can also start imbalanced, and gain it due to the same... Town had no business winning last game, for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 5 hours ago, Integrity28 said: You make being wrong an art form. Any game can start balanced and lose it due to dumb luck. It can also start imbalanced, and gain it due to the same... Town had no business winning last game, for instance. Oh goodness, here we go... Game balance either exists or it doesn't - it doesn't change or evolve during play. It's like a table with 4 legs, but if the legs are different lengths (or the ground is uneven) it will wobble. That doesn't necessarily effect the balance because the table won't tip over. If the roles are chosen correctly, the game will be balanced and the mod is what makes the difference in smoothing out any wobbly play. Random occurrences or "lightning strike" plays don't mean the game is unbalanced - they just represent a lower probability of potential outcomes, which you know. On any given day, an earthquake can knock over a perfectly balanced table. The earthquake is a mutually exclusive event that produces a result through no fault of the table maker. So in this last game, you say "Town had no business winning". Why? Why didn't the town have any business winning? It's a cute thing to say, but there was ample opportunity of the town to win from the start. I'm not a fan of the C9++ setup (or driverless cars or boy bands) in part because it takes the modding out of modding. But it's not flawed toward favoring mafia or town. A balance issue would be if there were too many mafia or too many power roles. You not winning the game is not a balance issue, heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 2 hours ago, D P R said: Oh goodness, here we go... Game balance either exists or it doesn't - it doesn't change or evolve during play. It's like a table with 4 legs, but if the legs are different lengths (or the ground is uneven) it will wobble. That doesn't necessarily effect the balance because the table won't tip over. If the roles are chosen correctly, the game will be balanced and the mod is what makes the difference in smoothing out any wobbly play. Random occurrences or "lightning strike" plays don't mean the game is unbalanced - they just represent a lower probability of potential outcomes, which you know. On any given day, an earthquake can knock over a perfectly balanced table. The earthquake is a mutually exclusive event that produces a result through no fault of the table maker. So in this last game, you say "Town had no business winning". Why? Why didn't the town have any business winning? It's a cute thing to say, but there was ample opportunity of the town to win from the start. I'm not a fan of the C9++ setup (or driverless cars or boy bands) in part because it takes the modding out of modding. But it's not flawed toward favoring mafia or town. A balance issue would be if there were too many mafia or too many power roles. You not winning the game is not a balance issue, heh. So. Easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 8 hours ago, Integrity28 said: You make being wrong an art form. Any game can start balanced and lose it due to dumb luck. It can also start imbalanced, and gain it due to the same... Town had no business winning last game, for instance. You caught two scum in three post. Lightning strike post indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: You caught two scum in three post. Lightning strike post indeed. Honestly, I shot you because I view you as an impossible townie to lynch. If I hadn't shot you, it probably changes the whole game. You can RB JIF, get him killed, you can RB me and Smash... I bet you would have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 9 hours ago, Lily said: Thanks Alts are in your pms. 14 of them. I changed them up to not repeat actors . I can make a couple more if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Honestly, I shot you because I view you as an impossible townie to lynch. If I hadn't shot you, it probably changes the whole game. You can RB JIF, get him killed, you can RB me and Smash... I bet you would have won. No. Same night RB kill smash. Vest stopped it. Probably would have tried again next night. I was shocked it was you because I knew you had me as town. Then realized that's EXACTLY why you shot me. I wasn't getting lynch. Well played Ape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I'd like the dt for this one <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 20 hours ago, Leelou said: Hi Puddin'!! Hey pumpkin! 16 hours ago, Lily said: Crusher, can we have alts? Also, I'm going to warn you guys, up front. there is no way I can completely balance this setup. It starts off balanced, but there are variables that could affect it. 14 hours ago, Integrity28 said: There's a chance of that in all games, really. Well I think the greater point is you can have things "perfectly" balanced and it all go to hell on D1 if things go a certain way...but you don't build a game accounting for town blind lynching the doc and scum nailing cop all in the first day of the game, so it is what it is 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: Alts are in your pms. 14 of them. I changed them up to not repeat actors . I can make a couple more if need be. <3 you like bacon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 We have alts. Yay! @Leelou do you want the setup in the dead thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I'm going to say it here and again in the rules - NO posting with the alts outside of this forum. I will modkill your ass with a quickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 31 minutes ago, Lily said: I'm going to say it here and again in the rules - NO posting with the alts outside of this forum. I will modkill your ass with a quickness. Sexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 @Doggin94it come play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 5 hours ago, Leelou said: I'd like the dt for this one <3 was there a dead thread for the game that just finished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Lily said: We have alts. Yay! @Leelou do you want the setup in the dead thread? Yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 55 minutes ago, Lily said: I'm going to say it here and again in the rules - NO posting with the alts outside of this forum. I will modkill your ass with a quickness. When you say NO, is that a firm no, or maybe a slippery no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: was there a dead thread for the game that just finished? Yeah, it was posted by Hallia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 25 minutes ago, Leelou said: Yeah, it was posted by Hallia. found it, missed nothing... thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 27 minutes ago, D P R said: When you say NO, is that a firm no, or maybe a slippery no? Try me and see *evil grin* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Alts are set up and ready - new pictures and cleaned out the inboxes. Feel free to change your password and picture when you get your alt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Lily said: Try me and see *evil grin* Is that an evil evil grin, or more of a naughty evil grin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 This is me. Which do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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