jetscrazey Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I know it's preseason, I know Mo was out, but the 1st team D looked like trash tonight. The front 7 got run all over. This team appears to have 0 starting-caliber OLBs, they're actually making me miss Calvin Pace the dinosaur. The ILBs looked shaky as well. In the secondary, outside of Revis the whole unit looks to be playing at half speed. Bowles did not employ much man coverage or blitz aggressively, but McCoy really picked apart their base looks. Also, the tackling has to improve. If we see missed tackles on this level in week 1 it's going to be a major issue. I am not as worried about the offense (other than the fact that Austin Davis should never be allowed to go out for a pass ever again), but right now I am struggling to see how this defense is going to be an "elite" unit again this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GangisGreen Posted August 20, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2016 Posts like this is exactly why I hate preseason football. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted August 20, 2016 Author Share Posted August 20, 2016 2 hours ago, GangisGreen said: Posts like this is exactly why I hate preseason football. I hate preseason football too. But that time of possession given up by the first team defense is concerning nonetheless. They got owned. The coaches are going to be very pissed after looking at that tape, without a doubt. I hope Bowles is able to go full tilt with the defense for the 3rd preseason game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Pre. Season. Git you some! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 3 hours ago, GangisGreen said: Posts like this is exactly why I hate preseason football. Just End The Preseason 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 A good play for the first team D or O during preseason is any play that ends with everyone getting up . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 The point in playing the preseason is to see how good you are, where you are at. It's perfectly reasonable to say that you are worried about your football team when your football players look terrible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I would say preseason is a time where we see if the new players are up to par, as a lot of the vets won't play at 100%. So it doesn't bother me if say Revis gives up a pass. it does bother me when young guys, new players and rookies and things like that give up plays bc it means the Jets will have to game plan around those particular weaknesses assuming they stick on the team. This game has confirmed several things that were a concern. Depth at OL is a serious problem. I also doubt that our starting TE is on the roster atm. Depth at corner and our lack of a starting caliber number 2 with man to man skills is troubling. The loss of Snacks hurts the run D at least until we see Mo come back and maybe Williams can play NT in a few looks. Related to that, we have a LB core with range and some cover ability, however they don't show the ability to rush the passer and they were getting easily moved in run D. I'm not that worried about the offense barring injury, but yea the lack of an elite runner like last year is pretty evident, even in preseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goinggreen Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 It's preseason game two and the Jets starting defense looks awful once again. Mo asked for all that money when management should have pushed to resign Snacks to man the middle. Mo saw more double teams and was a non factor in the short time he played. I told everyone on Twitter and every others means hat Mo would not be as dominant without Snacks. Time will tell if I'm right? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kdels62 Posted August 20, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2016 3 hours ago, Goinggreen said: It's preseason game two and the Jets starting defense looks awful once again. Mo asked for all that money when management should have pushed to resign Snacks to man the middle. Mo saw more double teams and was a non factor in the short time he played. I told everyone on Twitter and every others means hat Mo would not be as dominant without Snacks. Time will tell if I'm right? 🤔 Mo didn't play. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 4 hours ago, Goinggreen said: It's preseason game two and the Jets starting defense looks awful once again. Mo asked for all that money when management should have pushed to resign Snacks to man the middle. Mo saw more double teams and was a non factor in the short time he played. I told everyone on Twitter and every others means hat Mo would not be as dominant without Snacks. Time will tell if I'm right? 🤔 lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Interesting that Washington did not play Cousins last night, seem like Jets D took the night off as a result but it is preseason and it is a vet defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 4 hours ago, Goinggreen said: It's preseason game two and the Jets starting defense looks awful once again. Mo asked for all that money when management should have pushed to resign Snacks to man the middle. Mo saw more double teams and was a non factor in the short time he played. I told everyone on Twitter and every others means hat Mo would not be as dominant without Snacks. Time will tell if I'm right? 🤔 1 hour ago, kdels62 said: Mo didn't play. LOL. Jet Fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said: Interesting that Washington did not play Cousins last night, seem like Jets D took the night off as a result ut it is preseason I for one have disappoint I see no Trade for Colt McCoy threads. Yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Keyshawn and Toon looked bad tonight too. I hope Ewbank doesn't think this is a legit #1/#2 WR combo heading in to the wildcard round. As for the D? Don't even get me started on John Abraham. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Preseason. Away game in preseason. None to little game planning. You know as a vet stater you'll only be playing 1-2 series. Motivation to care other than don't get hurt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 15 minutes ago, Jet9 said: Keyshawn and Toon looked bad tonight too. I hope Ewbank doesn't think this is a legit #1/#2 WR combo heading in to the wildcard round. As for the D? Don't even get me started on John Abraham. I live in Virginia. Atalanta is not on here very much, but every time I saw them, even a glance at another TV in a sports bar Abe was getting a sack. Felt like I was being hazed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Was tinybacker tinier last night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 No big deal. It's preseason. Basic plays. Vanilla defensive schemes. Just getting the kinks out and checking out the new blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, C Mart said: Preseason. Away game in preseason. None to little game planning. You know as a vet stater you'll only be playing 1-2 series. Motivation to care other than don't get hurt? We really didn't run the ball at all, unless you can call T-Bo and Housewares RBs. We are not a zone team but we stayed in zone all game. Obviously Bowles wants to see certain things, and is not concerned with winning preseason. That said we need to put a couple drives together next week, and I'm not sure if the Leo at NT experiment is going to work on running downs. Amaro needs to play the whole game next week and get these drops out of his head or we're going to need a new TE on gameday. Mostly I hope Q, Mauldin, and Henderson are okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jet9 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 39 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I live in Virginia. Atalanta is not on here very much, but every time I saw them, even a glance at another TV in a sports bar Abe was getting a sack. Felt like I was being hazed. Definitely OT, but... I was 27 when that trade happened, 10 years ago. I was pissed when he alluded to 'looking out for his health' (Free Agency) when he didn't play a game, think it was a playoff game. Then he did really well in ATL and I realized he had a point. That said, we got Mangold for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 3 hours ago, The Crusher said: I for one have disappoint I see no Trade for Colt McCoy threads. Yet. No way man, not with Manziel still no the market, if you really want a QB drafted by the Browns, he's the guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Just now, Ohio State NY Jets fan said: No way man, not with Manziel still no the market, if you really want a QB drafted by the Browns, he's the guy Sadly the Jets defense made Colt McCoy look like a good QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 13 hours ago, jetscrazey said: I know it's preseason, I know Mo was out, but the 1st team D looked like trash tonight. The front 7 got run all over. This team appears to have 0 starting-caliber OLBs, they're actually making me miss Calvin Pace the dinosaur. The ILBs looked shaky as well. In the secondary, outside of Revis the whole unit looks to be playing at half speed. Bowles did not employ much man coverage or blitz aggressively, but McCoy really picked apart their base looks. Also, the tackling has to improve. If we see missed tackles on this level in week 1 it's going to be a major issue. I am not as worried about the offense (other than the fact that Austin Davis should never be allowed to go out for a pass ever again), but right now I am struggling to see how this defense is going to be an "elite" unit again this year. I love preseason.....it is only time you get real good looks at 2s and 3s as a long suffering jet fan my fav time of the year is draft, preseason, and training camp. It represents hope that has so often been shattered over the years during regular season but keeps me coming back i think the 1s are not really playing full speed as they are worried about injury...if they are flat against giants next week I will start to worry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 19 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Sadly the Jets defense made Colt McCoy look like a good QB Maybe but not sure anyone on the Jets first team defense broke a sweat last night, and Revis had a pick Nate Sudfeld led the winning drive, some folks on the board wanted to draft him, more interesting then McCoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#bman Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I hope Dion Simon gets some playing time at NT. We need two people to make up for the snacks loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De-Jet-Erate/Duane Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Remember when we had a Head Coach who tried to win every preseason game.... and got a bunch of people hurt, even our starting QB and we had to start the regular season with a rookie QB. Yep good times! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 4 hours ago, Jet9 said: Keyshawn and Toon looked bad tonight too. I hope Ewbank doesn't think this is a legit #1/#2 WR combo heading in to the wildcard round. As for the D? Don't even get me started on John Abraham. Badda bing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Started off thinking, "this thread is gonna suck", but since then I've been laughing out loud. Lol. We're awesome Jets fans, gotta admit. You can lump me right in with the "sky is falling crowd", too. I don't think I've ever enjoyed a Jets game in my life. It's a constant source of stress. for the next 2-3 weeks, can we just all post under the assumption EVERYBODY knows it's just preseason yet has a right to be a little bit concerned? I am discouraged about the 1st team D, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMagicRat Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Eh it's preseason and people are overreacting a lot. Last preseason, our first team defense got spanked by the Lions and Falcons in game one and two and the offense didn't look much better. We should see significant improvement with actual game planning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 last year Mo sat the first PS game and everybody was wondering why the defense looked like crap he is THAT important to this defense when he gets back, you will see a totally different defense 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 14 hours ago, David Harris said: The point in playing the preseason is to see how good you are, where you are at. It's perfectly reasonable to say that you are worried about your football team when your football players look terrible It's not reasonable to be that concerned when Bowles is playing off man and rarely blitzing. Which is the complete opposite of what his defense typically does. The first play of the game on defense is a great example. Defense blitzes from the outside, Jordan Jenkins crushed the QB, but he completes the slant bc the CB's are 10 yards off the WR. That ball gets picked in a real game or at the very least is incomplete. Judging offense or defense in preseason is useless bc there is no gameplanning and the scheme is very vanilla. Thats why Dak Prescott looks like Joe Montana right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 9 hours ago, kdels62 said: Mo didn't play. 12 hours ago, Goinggreen said: It's preseason game two and the Jets starting defense looks awful once again. Mo asked for all that money when management should have pushed to resign Snacks to man the middle. Mo saw more double teams and was a non factor in the short time he played. I told everyone on Twitter and every others means hat Mo would not be as dominant without Snacks. Time will tell if I'm right? 🤔 Ummm... Did you even watch the game? Mo didn't play. But technically you were right. He wasn't dominant yesterday from the sidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De-Jet-Erate/Duane Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 38 minutes ago, Larz said: last year Mo sat the first PS game and everybody was wondering why the defense looked like crap he is THAT important to this defense when he gets back, you will see a totally different defense ^ ^ ^ Yes, This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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