Snell41 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I don't think it has anything to do with bringing him along slowly at all. Teams across the league are playing rookies. We are witnessing the Geno/Bryce competition, and Bryce is winning. They're getting a good hard look at Bryce to see if they're comfortable with him at backup. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Good point. I was thinking he's just very far behind, and they don't want to start the bad press if he's really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Snell41 said: I don't think it has anything to do with bringing him along slowly at all. Teams across the league are playing rookies. We are witnessing the Geno/Bryce competition, and Bryce is winning. They're getting a good hard look at Bryce to see if they're comfortable with him at backup. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This was going to be a redshirt year for hack anyway. Let him sit for a year and build him from the ground up. He checks all the boxes from a physical and mental standpoint he just needs to be coached up the right way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I agree with the OP. If Geno was playing well, and Petty was not, Hack would be getting playing time with the threes. But Petty is on the verge of ending Geno's tenure with the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Agreed- Hack won't see the field this season, his roster spot is a given however. Fitz is the starter, roster spot locked. Bryce and Geno are battling it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, cant wait said: This was going to be a redshirt year for hack anyway. Let him sit for a year and build him from the ground up. He checks all the boxes from a physical and mental standpoint he just needs to be coached up the right way Agree The general consensus from draft day was that Hack needed alot of work to be legit, so IMO hes out of the picture till 2017 at the very least. The #2 spot was always in question between Petty and Geno, and the CS wants film on THEM not Hack right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Agreed. It will be interesting to see how Geno reacts to the pressure. Could you imagine how much more interesting it would be if we hadn't signed fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I suspect going into the preseason games the coaching staff really wanted to see Petty so Hack was not slated to see much time. I do wonder how much less field time Hack will see as a result of Petty's surprising rise this offseason. No matter one's opinion of Geno or Fitz--I hope we can all agree that it's exciting to see the team have a problem of too many QBs we want to keep on the roster versus arguing which poor performing QB should help the offense limp along to the finish line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 13 minutes ago, Snell41 said: I don't think it has anything to do with bringing him along slowly at all. Teams across the league are playing rookies. We are witnessing the Geno/Bryce competition, and Bryce is winning. They're getting a good hard look at Bryce to see if they're comfortable with him at backup. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Wow.... This is a great point and I think that you may be right. The truth is Fitz is definitely the starter and Geno has been the number two since last year. The key question is whether Petty has the ability and make up to over take him sometime this year, and if the coaching staff says "yes", then they may roll the dice and actually either demote Geno or let him go, either option I thought was impossible at the begining of this off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Agreed. It will be interesting to see how Geno reacts to the pressure. Could you imagine how much more interesting it would be if we hadn't signed fitz. I Thought the jets would have signed foles or worked a deal for mccown. hard to think they would have felt comfortable without a veteran option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Just hope this isn't Brett Ratliff 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: Wow.... This is a great point and I think that you may be right. The truth is Fitz is definitely the starter and Geno has been the number two since last year. The key question is whether Petty has the ability and make up to over take him sometime this year, and if the coaching staff says "yes", then they may roll the dice and actually either demote Geno or let him go, either option I thought was impossible at the begining of this off season. There's no demoting Geno. Either he's the backup, or he's cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Maccagnan and Bowles will use the same methodic strategy with Hack as they did, and are doing, with Petty. Let them learn the playbook, then ease them in. Playing time and snaps with the 1's and 2's increase as they show marked improvement. We need to forget about Hack until next year at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I, too, think that not playing a rookie QB we drafted in the 2nd round in a preseason game, is Actually Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet in PA Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 If the OP is correct I wonder how much of a dropoff Geno to Petty is. The only thing Geno really has over Bryce is experience and he doesn't seem to be learning from previous mistakes when the bullets are live. I think he has potential but don't know that he'll ever put it all together to really become consistently good. Whatever decision they make at the number 2 QB spot will probably be tested with Fitz's style of play. I'd like to see Geno and Petty rotate the second half against the Giants and then make a decision and give Hack the 4th game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Harris Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Jet in PA said: If the OP is correct I wonder how much of a dropoff Geno to Petty is. The only thing Geno really has over Bryce is experience and he doesn't seem to be learning from previous mistakes when the bullets are live. I think he has potential but don't know that he'll ever put it all together to really become consistently good. Whatever decision they make at the number 2 QB spot will probably be tested with Fitz's style of play. I'd like to see Geno and Petty rotate the second half against the Giants and then make a decision and give Hack the 4th game. Geno looks to me, every time I see him, like he has learned absolutely NOTHING. And he never will. I am just hoping Petty really seals the deal here soon. Geno needs to go. Addition by subtraction. I'm sure they gotta be sure tho. Smart thing to do. They actually appear to be doing smart things.. Woah!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 3 hours ago, cant wait said: I Thought the jets would have signed foles or worked a deal for mccown. hard to think they would have felt comfortable without a veteran option Funny thing is we Drafted Hack, and if Petty keeps improving, Hack will be irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 50 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: Funny thing is we Drafted Hack, and if Petty keeps improving, Hack will be irrelevant. As they say, nice problem to have! If either of our 2 young QBs turns out, the other one is either a backup to develop, trade bait, or a guy you just cut and start over on. But you've got your #1 guy. Fingers crossed one of them works out for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Given that we will definitely have Devin Smith on the PUP list to start the season, there may be merit in keeping all 4 QBs to see how things play out. Maybe a team has an injury and offers something in trade for Geno. Maybe we play it safe in case Fitz gets injured in the first 6 weeks. It gives us the time to see what else happens before making the final decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 No need to play Hack before preseason game 4. This is all about Petty/Geno for #2. Right now, Petty is making a serious run and I think has an excellent chance at securing the #2 spot. Hackenberg is only 21, no need to rush him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 He's a hack. get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better2bgreenthanblue Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Crazy thing is it's not Petty pushing Geno off the roster. IMO it's the amazing array of young talent that Macc picked in late rounds and UDFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Posted this in team petty thread... You our still have to keep all 4, IMO. you can't go into season w Hack as the #3, can you? So you have to keep all 4. 1-fitz 2-petty 3-geno 4-hack also..can't we play some Patriot games? Hack to the IR for some BS reason?? This way he's not exposed to the practice squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Hackenberg isn't playing because he's looked horrific in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 6 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Agreed. It will be interesting to see how Geno reacts to the pressure. Could you imagine how much more interesting it would be if we hadn't signed fitz. It won't be that interesting. We already know how he reacts under pressure. He folds like a cheap suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 30 minutes ago, Shadetree said: Posted this in team petty thread... You our still have to keep all 4, IMO. you can't go into season w Hack as the #3, can you? So you have to keep all 4. 1-fitz 2-petty 3-geno 4-hack also..can't we play some Patriot games? Hack to the IR for some BS reason?? This way he's not exposed to the practice squad? IR means he can't practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 9 minutes ago, aec4 said: IR means he can't practice. At all? What's the rule there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 40 minutes ago, Shadetree said: Posted this in team petty thread... You our still have to keep all 4, IMO. you can't go into season w Hack as the #3, can you? So you have to keep all 4. 1-fitz 2-petty 3-geno 4-hack also..can't we play some Patriot games? Hack to the IR for some BS reason?? This way he's not exposed to the practice squad? Yes, you can go into the season w/Hack as #3. Some teams only carry 2 QBs on their 53. Nah, then Hack can't run the scout team in practice. IR can't practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 3 hours ago, BurnleyJet said: Funny thing is we Drafted Hack, and if Petty keeps improving, Hack will be irrelevant. If Petty turns into a star QB for the Jets, no one will ever remember the Hackenberg pick. It'll be a popular trivia question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I think it's great he hasn't played yet. Hope he's inactive for all 16 games. Then next year, him and Petty can go to war and may the best man win Hell, even if we bring Fitz back again in 17, with Petty as #2 and Hack doesn't play at all again in 17, that's fine with me, too. I like Hack but 2 years of sitting and learning with no pressure would be great for him, or almost any NFL QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 14 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said: I think it's great he hasn't played yet. Hope he's inactive for all 16 games. Then next year, him and Petty can go to war and may the best man win Hell, even if we bring Fitz back again in 17, with Petty as #2 and Hack doesn't play at all again in 17, that's fine with me, too. I like Hack but 2 years of sitting and learning with no pressure would be great for him, or almost any NFL QB. Would be a luxury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 43 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said: I think it's great he hasn't played yet. Hope he's inactive for all 16 games. Then next year, him and Petty can go to war and may the best man win Hell, even if we bring Fitz back again in 17, with Petty as #2 and Hack doesn't play at all again in 17, that's fine with me, too. I like Hack but 2 years of sitting and learning with no pressure would be great for him, or almost any NFL QB. I think that is exactly what this kid needs. We hoped he would come in and wow the CS but at least he is sitting and learning and hopefully getting his confidence back after getting crushed for a few years. I hear that douche Ross Tucker say how "weird" it is that we are not playing Hack but I think it's the best approach, why if you know a guy isn't ready to see the field would you put him in a bad situation. I can see maybe the 4th game with just some basic passes and a few handoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Yes, you can go into the season w/Hack as #3. Some teams only carry 2 QBs on their 53. Nah, then Hack can't run the scout team in practice. IR can't practice IR Geno ... That way he can't hurt anyone Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan61 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 8 hours ago, dbatesman said: I, too, think that not playing a rookie QB we drafted in the 2nd round in a preseason game, is Actually Good Agreed, it tells Hack to go out and earn your playing time. A little Parcells mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 8 hours ago, dbatesman said: I, too, think that not playing a rookie QB we drafted in the 2nd round in a preseason game, is Actually Good Indeed. I no longer think it is related to his inability to complete passes in shorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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