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IMO for the 3rd Str8 game the coaching staff didn't give Geno much in the way of pass plays to show anything past 3, or 4 throws.  Either they don't want him around, or the exact opposite they have seen enough of him to know he is fine as the #2, and just want to let the 1's get in synch, and see the other 2 QB's get some tape.  I initially thought it was the first scenario, but I am now leaning towards the latter.

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15 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

IMO for the 3rd Str8 game the coaching staff didn't give Geno much in the way of pass plays to show anything past 3, or 4 throws.  Either they don't want him around, or the exact opposite they have seen enough of him to know he is fine as the #2, and just want to let the 1's get in synch, and see the other 2 QB's get some tape.  I initially thought it was the first scenario, but I am now leaning towards the latter.

You have to execute the plays called. It is ridiculous to think Bowles or Gailey calls plays to make him look bad. If he looks bad it is because he IS bad. I would feel safe releasing him with the first cuts. Petty can handle the backup job as well or better than Geno.

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1 hour ago, Lizard King said:

Can someone please discuss. I was at Citi Field. 

The Jets offense looked like hot garbage, pretty much all night. The QBs were awful, outside of Hack's first drive. 

Geno played little, and was asked to do even less. His drives were run-run-dump pass for a first down, repeat. Petty conversely came out throwing -- meaning the coaching staff obviously still wanted to see more of him. 

Take from that what you will, but it's clear Macc's already made up his mind on Geno -- whatever that is.

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46 minutes ago, Paradis said:

The Jets offense looked like hot garbage, pretty much all night. The QBs were awful, outside of Hack's first drive. 

Geno played little, and was asked to do even less. His drives were run-run-dump pass for a first down, repeat. Petty conversely came out throwing -- meaning the coaching staff obviously still wanted to see more of him. 

Take from that what you will, but it's clear Macc's already made up his mind on Geno -- whatever that is.

I saw very little of the game but I'll throw out a theory on Geno's plays: Bowles wanted to see what Geno would go in a tightly controlled game manager-type back up role. Otherwise, why waste an opportunity to see Petty or Hack perform? It's not like Geno was entitled to reps or that giving him the opportunity to hand off the ball provided any other value. They could have stuck Petty in those plays and given him a few more chances to read a defense. 

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Threw about 5 passes and was the most accurate of the QBs (i.e. didn't miss a throw or have bad placement like Fitz).  He had one drop from Marshall on a 3rd down that was perfectly placed. He put another ball on a line to Anderson to the sideline. The coaching staff ran on all 3 downs on his series for some reason. One possibility is that the coaching staff has seen enough from Geno and know he is good enough. Another possibility is they have seen enough and he isn't. He does however seem to get first team reps in practice so the former seems more likely. Maybe he plays most of the 4th preseason game.

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35 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said:

I saw very little of the game but I'll throw out a theory on Geno's plays: Bowles wanted to see what Geno would go in a tightly controlled game manager-type back up role. Otherwise, why waste an opportunity to see Petty or Hack perform? It's not like Geno was entitled to reps or that giving him the opportunity to hand off the ball provided any other value. They could have stuck Petty in those plays and given him a few more chances to read a defense. 

Maybe. Seemed to me like they were more interested in seeing what Petty and Hackenberg could do, and threw Geno out there first for a couple series just to avoid questions about the QB order. 

Really odd QB rotation for the third preseason game, actually. Usually you'd run your starter for the entire first half, maybe into the third quarter, and your backup the rest of the way. Maybe they wanted to use the opportunity to have Geno play against starters, and Petty play against the second team. Very curious about how the operate on Thursday. 

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30 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said:

I saw very little of the game but I'll throw out a theory on Geno's plays: Bowles wanted to see what Geno would go in a tightly controlled game manager-type back up role. Otherwise, why waste an opportunity to see Petty or Hack perform? It's not like Geno was entitled to reps or that giving him the opportunity to hand off the ball provided any other value. They could have stuck Petty in those plays and given him a few more chances to read a defense. 

A bit of a reach... I don't think anyone's game plan reads; "Lets see how he looks in a tight back up role"... It's a zillion times more likely he was scheduled to have 2 drives with the purpose being purely some live reps. He clearly wasn't asked to do much. Give him his 2 drives, then get Petty in there for further analysis. 

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5 minutes ago, Paradis said:

A bit of a reach... I don't think anyone's game plan reads; "Lets see how he looks in a tight back up role"... It's a zillion times more likely he was scheduled to have 2 drives with the purpose being purely some live reps. He clearly wasn't asked to do much. Give him his 2 drives, then get Petty in there for further analysis. 

Bowles said he took out Geno because he wanted enough time to see Hack, not Petty.

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4 minutes ago, slats said:

Maybe. Seemed to me like they were more interested in seeing what Petty and Hackenberg could do, and threw Geno out there first for a couple series just to avoid questions about the QB order. 

Really odd QB rotation for the third preseason game, actually. Usually you'd run your starter for the entire first half, maybe into the third quarter, and your backup the rest of the way. Maybe they wanted to use the opportunity to have Geno play against starters, and Petty play against the second team. Very curious about how the operate on Thursday. 

I don't think it's odd at all. We're talking about a handful of series for a veteran in his 11th year. Long term on the season that is not going to have any effect. This team absolutely cannot carry 4 quarterbacks, and one of the 3 yokels has to go, so it makes sense to use more time on the other 3 guys when you have a veteran with whom preseason seconds aren't precious for. We know what we have with Geno, Petty needed more time, and Hackenberg needed to prove he was worth keeping on the roster too, because if a 2nd rounder can't even manage some garbage time reps in a preseason game that pretty much says enough. The two guys that needed the longest looks got them. And my guess is they will get the most reps on Thursday too. Petty or Geno is a goner, and my feeling is that the Jets are really trying to give Petty every opportunity to show he is at least Geno's equal; as they should, because the upside of Petty being average is higher than the upside of keeping Geno for one more year. There is just no way we are going to carry 4, I refuse to believe this team is that dumb.

 

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3 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

I don't think it's odd at all. We're talking about a handful of series for a veteran in his 11th year. Long term on the season that is not going to have any effect. This team absolutely cannot carry 4 quarterbacks, and one of the 3 yokels has to go, so it makes sense to use more time on the other 3 guys when you have a veteran with whom preseason seconds aren't precious for. We know what we have with Geno, Petty needed more time, and Hackenberg needed to prove he was worth keeping on the roster too, because if a 2nd rounder can't even manage some garbage time reps in a preseason game that pretty much says enough. The two guys that needed the longest looks got them. And my guess is they will get the most reps on Thursday too. Petty or Geno is a goner, and my feeling is that the Jets are really trying to give Petty every opportunity to show he is at least Geno's equal; as they should, because the upside of Petty being average is higher than the upside of keeping Geno for one more year. There is just no way we are going to carry 4, I refuse to believe this team is that dumb.

 

Daring POV. 

I get the logic. So if not odd, unusual? Fitz looks like he can still use some work, but will probably sit on Thursday. The longer they play Geno, the more likely I'd think they're willing to hold onto him. I hate the four QB thing, too, and definitely feel that Geno should be the odd man out. Does seem like they're giving Petty extended looks with a purpose, so that's a good sign. 

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I don't think they planned things out that way for Geno.

First drive, it was supposed to be an uptempo drive, but the Marshall drop ends the drive.  

Second drive, they ran two straight running plays, both were moderately successful, so they probably wanted to run for a first down and then open it up, it blew up.  

Considering that both Petty and Hackenberg needed to play, they didn't want to risk a time consuming drive with Geno, so they pulled him.  I don't think we can read much into it, other than that Petty is clearly still behind him and Petty didn't impress last night.  

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28 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

I don't think it's odd at all. We're talking about a handful of series for a veteran in his 11th year. Long term on the season that is not going to have any effect. This team absolutely cannot carry 4 quarterbacks, and one of the 4 yokels has to go, so it makes sense to use more time on the other 3 guys when you have a veteran with whom preseason seconds aren't precious for. We know what we have with Geno, Petty needed more time, and Hackenberg needed to prove he was worth keeping on the roster too, because if a 2nd rounder can't even manage some garbage time reps in a preseason game that pretty much says enough. The two guys that needed the longest looks got them. And my guess is they will get the most reps on Thursday too. Petty or Geno is a goner, and my feeling is that the Jets are really trying to give Petty every opportunity to show he is at least Geno's equal; as they should, because the upside of Petty being average is higher than the upside of keeping Geno for one more year. There is just no way we are going to carry 4, I refuse to believe this team is that dumb.

 

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2 hours ago, Paradis said:

The Jets offense looked like hot garbage, pretty much all night. The QBs were awful, outside of Hack's first drive. 

Geno played little, and was asked to do even less. His drives were run-run-dump pass for a first down, repeat. Petty conversely came out throwing -- meaning the coaching staff obviously still wanted to see more of him. 

Take from that what you will, but it's clear Macc's already made up his mind on Geno -- whatever that is.

Looks like Jets offense = Brandon Marshall 

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5 hours ago, jfmckenna said:

Once again, the Geno fanbois sit broken hearted, searching for some sort of excuse.

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The only problem is, Fitz has looked worse. Outside of that one good pass to Decker, Fitz was poor. 

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