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Kaepernick......yes or no?

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Kaepernick....yes or now?  

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  1. 1. If he's dumped, should the Jets make a run at him?


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King P

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3 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Really?  I didn't interpret it that way at all. Why?  Because the way I see it, they are actually very similar QB'S due to the fact that they both struggle at making simple reads, are inaccurate with the ball, are mobile, have stupid strong arms that they don't know how to control, and come from spread offenses in college.  Oh and again, they both blow chunks at professional football and are complete a$$holes.  The only big differences between them are Kaep being a better athlete and being paid huge money to suck.

Funny, the people who kick their feet and cry racism are usually the first to bring race up.  

Damn near all of those things apply to Johnny Manziel as well, would you call Manziel another Geno? You damn well you wouldn't.

Funny because I never said anything about racism. I simply took a swipe at the common practice of comparing 1 Black QB to another. But go on with your deflection tactics.

**** it, I'll just block your bitch ass

 

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CrazyCarl40

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35 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

Mohammed Wilkerson being a Muslim of African-American descent could teach this young man a thing or two about carrying yourself as a professional.

You can change the world a little at a time by getting involved in your community.... not trying to show people up(especially your teammates)

He made that game all about him! 

He had done it all preseason. He didn't make anything about him. And he's eliciting the exact response that he was aiming for. 

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14 minutes ago, King P said:

Damn near all of those things apply to Johnny Manziel as well, would you call Manziel another Geno? You damn well you wouldn't.

Funny because I never said anything about racism. I simply took a swipe at the common practice of comparing 1 Black QB to another. But go on with your deflection tactics.

**** it, I'll just block your bitch ass

 

Hilarious that you bring up Manziel because that is EXACTLY who I compared him too when he came out.  We already had 1 QB who couldn't do the simple things and was a douche, I wanted no part of another.  You know who was another comparison for Manziel?  Russell Wilson, because they're both undersized mobile QB's.  Michael Vick because they both relied on their legs way too much and could get hurt because of their sizes.  So don't pull that "you'd never do this with a white guy" bullsh*t on me.

Go ahead block me idgaf.  By the looks of it, I'm not gonna be missing much by not getting into a discussion with you.  Automatically assuming that to people were being compared BECAUSE of their color is bringing race into it.  I gave reasons as to why they're actually similar, you crawled back into your "safe space" and ignored them all.  Go ahead and continue to think that world is this awful victimizing place and everything negative involving a person of color is because of their race.  

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No and it has nothing to do with the whole not standing for the national anthem, I really don't care about it one way or the other. His play recently just doesn't scream to me to sign him. If he was putting up numbers and leading the team, he wouldn't even be in this situation, but he is, because he has crapped the bed. Could a change of scenery change his play around? Possibly, but do I want to pay him to find out? Not really.

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3 minutes ago, jgb said:

Ok Ryan leaf then. I think Geno would've preferred the kaep comparison, personally. But at least not racialist.

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No Kaep plays just like Geno.  They are the same player it has nothing to do with skin color

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1 minute ago, Maxman said:

I was a Yes to this all offseason. Now I am a No. Some things you just don't came back from.

It would be easier to defend Ray Rice from a public relations standpoint right now.

This tells me you don't work in public relations. Breaking the law and beating a woman will always be worse than what Kaep did. Always and forever. Ray Rice is indefensible. 

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3 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

This tells me you don't work in public relations. Breaking the law and beating a woman will always be worse than what Kaep did. Always and forever. Ray Rice is indefensible. 

I own a Marketing company, so I am actually pretty well versed in P.R.

I never said what Kap did was worse. What I said was defending Ray Rice PR wise right now would be easier.

1. Rice committed his crime a few years ago.

2. Kap did this like yesterday. And the backlash in NY would be huge. 

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3 minutes ago, Maxman said:

I own a Marketing company, so I am actually pretty well versed in P.R.

I never said what Kap did was worse. What I said was defending Ray Rice PR wise right now would be easier.

1. Rice committed his crime a few years ago.

2. Kap did this like yesterday. And the backlash in NY would be huge. 

It'll be out of the news cycle much quicker than Ray Rice was. Every time Ray Rice is brought up so is that video. That video will always have a larger impact than that grainy, eye in the sky photo of a dude sitting on the bench. 

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I own a Marketing company, so I am actually pretty well versed in P.R.

I never said what Kap did was worse. What I said was defending Ray Rice PR wise right now would be easier.

1. Rice committed his crime a few years ago.

2. Kap did this like yesterday. And the backlash in NY would be huge. 

You're right. America loves to pile onto mistakes but also loves second chances. But you gotta do your penance first.

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1 minute ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

It'll be out of the news cycle much quicker than Ray Rice was. Every time Ray Rice is brought up so is that video. That video will always have a larger impact than that grainy, eye in the sky photo of a dude sitting on the bench. 

The problem here with Kap isn't related to a grainy video. It is related to these words:

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"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

Hopefully Kap makes this a two time event, I believe he did it once before. But if he keeps doing it, this isn't going away.

 

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2 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

This tells me you don't work in public relations. Breaking the law and beating a woman will always be worse than what Kaep did. Always and forever. Ray Rice is indefensible. 

I think it's about time to forgive Ray Rice. Esp since his wife does. 

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2 minutes ago, jgb said:

You're right. America loves to pile onto mistakes but also loves second chances. But you gotta do your penance first.

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In order to do your penance you have to say you are sorry.

I don't see Kap ever getting to that point.

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4 minutes ago, Maxman said:

The problem here with Kap isn't related to a grainy video. It is related to these words:

Hopefully Kap makes this a two time event, I believe he did it once before. But if he keeps doing it, this isn't going away.

 

He's done it all preseason and if you think it's going away, then you're naive. He isn't the first and he won't be the last. This has been building for some time. Whether it's sitting for the anthem, wearing tee shirts, or speaking out at press conferences. It's only going to get bigger across the landscape of professional sports. And there is nothing wrong with what he said or why he said it. It's his right. 

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1 minute ago, Maxman said:

In order to do your penance you have to say you are sorry.

I don't see Kap ever getting to that point.

I didn't see any disrespect coming from Kap. I heard him talk about it in the locker room and maybe he was a little over his head. He's not a polished speaker on social issues. He's a football player. It's just his personal POV about what he sees as grievous wrongdoings in society. Which doesn't mean he doesn't love his country. He just wants it to be better. Ali said and did a lot more than Kap did 50 years ago and now he's a hero. 

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15 minutes ago, batman10023 said:

His wife knows this forgiveness is the only way he's getting a paycheck. 

The NFL let guys suit up who were real bad guys and habitual abusers of women. Even threatening women with guns. As far as we've heard this was a one time incident. If not and he was a regular abuser then he's getting what he deserves. 

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1 hour ago, Flushing Roots said:

Time to shut this one down.

Not wasting my time debating anyone who doesn't get not standing for the national anthem.

I agree.  the best position for him is out of the NFL.  His position on sitting for the national anthem?  He seems to forget that African -American men and women have fought and fight for our freedom too.  

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There's an article by Jay Glazer saying that SF might eventually cut Kap and Glazer states not because of his politics but because he's regressed, been injured and lost weight. If that's the reason they might cut him why not earlier and why didn't they trade him to Denver. To me this article is a plant by either the league or the team to excuse cutting the guy and not get accused of firing him because of his political views. I've never really trusted Glazer anyways. 

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F**K NO!!!   Screw this guy.  Hopefully he gets cut and hired by no NFL teams...which certainly may happen

The guy grew up in a white family (adopted parents), in upper middle class lily white Neighbourhood, was salutatorian in high school, and now a multi millionaire. Sounds more like he is suffering from white guilt because he sure hasnt been oppressed

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Just now, jgb said:

The guy grew up in a white family (adopted parents), in upper middle class lily white Neighbourhood, was salutatorian in high school, and now a multi millionaire. Sounds more like he is suffering from white guilt because he sure hang been oppressed

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Either that or he has become radicalized.....recent Muslim convert....looks all freaky with his new hair.   Something about this guy that aint right.  I say 49ers cut him this week.  They will wait until last cuts

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3 hours ago, JetUp81 said:

HELL NO.  That SOB should have to pay back any money that he has earned thus far, if he doesn't make the 49ers roster.

He and Josh "I-Punch-My-Wife" Brown both need to have their numbers called.  The NFL has to quit accepting this type of behavior from these over-paid prima-donnas that can't act properly in society.  

It's REAL SIMPLE -- and all of us are able to do it!  

1) Do NOT beat women, stalk them, and/or threaten their kids.  

2) Stand-up for the National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance.

Umm those things are not even in the same solar system of bad behavior.

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Either that or he has become radicalized.....recent Muslim convert....looks all freaky with his new hair.   Something about this guy that aint right.  I say 49ers cut him this week.  They will wait until last cuts

Sometimes guys who taste fame and success can't handle it once it's gone. You might be right.

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34 minutes ago, jgb said:

 

 

The guy grew up in a white family (adopted parents), in upper middle class lily white Neighbourhood, was salutatorian in high school, and now a multi millionaire. Sounds more like he is suffering from white guilt because he sure hasnt been oppressed

 

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So because he personally hasn't been "oppressed" means he can't speak up on Black issues?

You can't be serious

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