faba Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 vikings wanted an experienced QB they think they can compete this year for division and title- still sacrificing first rounder and another is a lot to give up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 8 minutes ago, De-Jet-Erate/Duane said: And all he has to do is not turn the ball over, he doesn't even have to play great for them to feel successful You mean all he has to do is stay on the field. This is a QB that has played a full 16 game season exactly twice in 5 seasons. Plus he has all of 2 weeks to learn a brand new offense. Good luck to Minnesota, they'll need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 1 minute ago, faba said: vikings wanted an experienced QB they think they can compete this year for division and title- still sacrificing first rounder and another is a lot to give up And Sam Bradford is that QB based on what exactly? Not based on anything he has accomplished in his 5 yr NFL career that's for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 To me Philly is leaving themselves without a veteran starting Qb. Chase Daniel did not have a good pre-season and either did Wentz. Plus Bradford has value even this coming off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 The price paid for any QB with experience is high when you are desperate- they obviously did not think Hill is good enough- did I say they are right so do not put words in my mouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 12 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: Bradford is a better Qb than that. He's not a game manager he's pretty much a franchise Qb. He had a good year with Philly in 2015. Based on what? How many playoff games has he won?? I'll answer that for you - ZERO in 5 seasons. Bradford is not remotely close to being a franchise QB on any level - other then where he was drafted. Why do you think he is on his 3rd team in 5 seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Just now, ARodJetsFan said: Based on what? How many playoff games has he won?? I'll answer that for you - ZERO in 5 seasons. Bradford is not remotely close to being a franchise QB on any level other then where he was drafted. OK, franchise Qb, he's on the border line. Look there were plenty of franchise Qbs who did not make the playoffs last season. It's not the only way you evaluate a Qb. We disagree: I think Bradford is a good Qb, he's better than Fitz who I'm a big fan of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: OK, franchise Qb, he's on the border line. Look there were plenty of franchise Qbs who did not make the playoffs last season. Bradford hasn't done it in the 5 seasons he has been in the league and he is injury prone. Bradford hasn't even had a season with double digit wins as a starter. He is not remotely close to being a franchise QB in any sense of the term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo 10m10 minutes ago Bradford's 40.5 QBR is 4th-worst (min. 30 starts) since he entered the league in 2010. Only Gabbert, Henne and Sanchez have been worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 The Vikings are reaching just as the NY Jets reached with Fitzpatrick and continue to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo 10m10 minutes ago Bradford's 40.5 QBR is 4th-worst (min. 30 starts) since he entered the league in 2010. Only Gabbert, Henne and Sanchez have been worse. I'll add to that Boozer, In 63 games as a starting QB Sam Bradford's record is 25 Wins 37 Losses 1 tie and he has never had a season with more then 7 wins. Sure sounds like a franchise QB to me.......NOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Just now, ARodJetsFan said: In 63 games Bradford's record is 25 Wins 37 Losses 1 tie and he has never had a season with more then 7 wins. Sure sounds like a franchise QB to me.......NOT. Similar to another NFL QB I wont mention his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: Similar to another NFL QB I wont mention his name. It's not a QB that garnered a 1st and 4th round pick - now is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Just now, ARodJetsFan said: It's not a QB that garnered a 1st and 4th round pick - now is it? Hint he has a beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Imagine the headlines if Maccagnan traded Fitzpatrick for a 1 and a 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Just now, T0mShane said: Imagine the headlines if Maccagnan traded Fitzpatrick for a 1 and a 4. Macc should have taken that deal if the Vikings offered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Great example of why Macc & Bowles might go with 4 QBs. Just imagine being an Eagles fan right now. They have Chase Daniel & Wentz, lol. They just traded their season away for their future. Probably a very smart long term decision. But that doesn't change the fact Eagles season ticket holders will be subjected to a horrible season. Mark it down, 3 worst teams in the NFL, Browns, 49ers & now the Eagles. 4-12 written all over them. Ryan Mathews vs 11 in the box = One long azz season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Hint he has a beard I knew you were talking about Fitzpatrick. My point is we didn't trade a 1st and a 4th round pick to get him and nobody here is under the illusion that Fitzpatrick is a franchise QB. At least Fitz showed he can win 10 games in a season. That's ALOT more then can be said about Sam Bradford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Just now, ARodJetsFan said: I knew you were talking about Fitzpatrick. My point is we didn't trade a 1st and a 4th round pick to get him and nobody here is under the illusion that Fitzpatrick is a franchise QB. At least Fitz showed he can win 10 games in a season. That's ALOT more then can be said about Sam Bradford. Fitz won 10 games with the easiest schedule in the NFL and only beat 2 teams with winning records Bradford and Fitzpatrick 2 of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 1 hour ago, AFJF said: WOW Something's telling me I may have spoken to soon about that "trade speculation" we spoke about an hour ago...either that or we still have a shot that Glennon becomes a Jet! lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 A 1st and a 4th is not a big deal to acquire a starting Qb. I don't remember a trade of this magnitude going down on cut down day. Now you have to wonder about Kap, the Cowboys and Mark Sanchez. It's possible Mark could end up with the 49ers. But he'll have to take a pay cut. He's going to be back down to lower backup money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Fitz won 10 games with the easiest schedule in the NFL and only beat 2 teams with winning records Bradford and Fitzpatrick 2 of the same. And Bradford has never won more then 7 games in any season. And again I'll ask you - did we trade a 1st and 4th round pick to acquire Fitzpatrick? No we did not so your point is mute. Personally, I hope this is the last season of Fitzpatrick, I'm really hoping that Petty continues his development. I like what I have seen from Petty this pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 1 hour ago, JETSfaninNE said: Sweet merciful crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Andrew Brandt @AndrewBrandt 14m14 minutes ago Fact Eagles had paid majority of compensation obviously a factor for Vikings. Paying Bradford less than RGIII, Daniel, half of Fitzpatrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Just now, ARodJetsFan said: And Bradford has never won more then 7 games in any season. Look, I'm not a defender of Bradford but he was with the Rams most of his career. And he had a 6-2 record with Philly until he was injured in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybroome Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 1 hour ago, SayNoToDMC said: That's ridiculous. He's an awful, injury prone, mess. My thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, ARodJetsFan said: And Bradford has never won more then 7 games in any season. And again I'll ask you - did we trade a 1st and 4th round pick to acquire Fitzpatrick? No we did not so your point is mute. Fitzpatrick is 43-61-1 in his career that sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 16 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: Look, I'm not a defender of Bradford but he was with the Rams most of his career. And he had a 6-2 record with Philly until he was injured in 2014. 1 hour ago, Rangers9 said: It means they want to win now and they gave up a lot. The draft picks are inconsequential vs wins and losses. They think they can win with Bradford. To me Bradford is a good NFL Qb. He might even be able to beat out Teddy next year and Bridgewater might not even be able to play next season. If Bridgewater comes back then they can trade Bradford and recover some of those draft picks. Esp if he has a good season since he signed a two year deal with Philly. 1 hour ago, Rangers9 said: Bradford is a better Qb than that. He's not a game manager he's pretty much a franchise Qb. He had a good year with Philly in 2015. A couple of replies ago you said Bradford was "pretty much a franchise QB" that could go on to unseat Teddy Bridgewater!!! It also does not change the fact that he has never had more then 7 wins in a season and the fact he has only played a full 16 games twice in 5 seasons is even more cause for concern. Sorry, I'm calling B.S. now Rangers9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 18 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: The Vikings are reaching just as the NY Jets reached with Fitzpatrick and continue to do so. Yeah except for the part they gave up a 1st and 4th and they still have to pay him LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Just now, ARodJetsFan said: A couple of replies ago you said Bradford was a franchise QB!!! I think he is borderline franchise Qb. He just has to stay on the field which he did in 2015 and had a good year. You can be a franchise Qb and your team doesn't make the playoffs. Like Stafford, Flacco, Cutler and a lot of other guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 7 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Sweet merciful crap Pretty sure the guy that smashed the TV after the Favre pick ended their playoff run is on his way to Best Buy, AGAIN!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybroome Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 1 minute ago, Rangers9 said: I think he is borderline franchise Qb. He just has to stay on the field which he did in 2015 and had a good year. You can be a franchise Qb and your team doesn't make the playoffs. Like Stafford, Flacco, Cutler and a lot of other guys. I cannot believe how overpaid Flacco is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Just now, billybroome said: I cannot believe how overpaid Flacco is. Yeah, he killed their cap for sure. They paid him after they won that SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybroome Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Just now, Rangers9 said: Yeah, he killed their cap for sure. They paid him after they won that SB. They got lucky on one play and thought he was the second coming of Aaron Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 As bad as what the Eagles gave up. Crazy stuff Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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