kelly Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 To go with our 2016 NFL predictions, FiveThirtyEight is previewing each division. Last season was a strange one for the NFL: Two historically mediocre teams — the Cardinals and the Panthers — had their best seasons ever, hitting new franchise high Elo ratings in the process.1 It was a season of surprises, though as usual, none of those surprises came in the AFC East. Based on ourElo-based projections for the NFL season that starts this week, we expect this trend to continue. New England Patriots No feat in today’s NFL is more impressive and less exciting than New England’s continued dominance of the AFC East. The Patriots have won the division 12 of the past 13 seasons, never dropping below 10 wins during that span. In each of the past four seasons, they’ve won 12 games. The NFL is a small-sample league where the inconsistency of teams year to year is treated as a feature, not a bug (parity!), so you can forgive football fans for finding the AFC East a little, well, boring. How will your favorite NFL team do this year? See all of our predictions for the 2016 season » Of course, the recent tedium of the division isn’t all on the Pats. Over the past seven seasons, the Dolphins have accomplished a feat no less perplexing: never winning less than six games or more than eight. Over that same span, the Bills went 6-10 four times. So it isn’t just that New England has been so consistently good — most of the teams in the division have been consistently mediocre. But it wasn’t always like this! From 2004 to 2008, this division was downright exciting. Sure, the Patriots still took the top spot in four out those five seasons, but at least their rivals weren’t so predictable. The Dolphins went from being bad (2004), to fine (2005), to the worst in the NFL (2007), to a shocking playoff entry (2008). The Jets were similarly swingy, making the playoffs at 10-6 in both 2004 and 2006 and going just 4-12 in both 2005 and 2007. Will the Patriots finally stumble in 2016? They’ll be without Tom Brady for their first four games. Our Elo ratings don’t “know” about this suspension, but earlier this year, we estimated that losing Brady for four games wouldn’tcost the Patriots much, and even with a backup under center, they’ll likely be favorites at home against Miami, Houston and Buffalo in Weeks 2 through 4. We project the Patriots, Brady-loss excluded, to win 9.8 games. Buffalo Bills Managing an NBA team takes impeccable timing. Players peak and decline, and to be a championship contender means taking advantage of the narrow window when your core roster peaks in harmony. This juggling act is arguably twice as hard in football. The best seasons only come when the offense and defense — two rosters with virtually no overlapping personnel — hit their stride simultaneously. The 2014 Buffalo Bills’ defense was one of the NFL’s best, by both traditionaland advanced metrics. Unfortunately, the offense was blah and the team went 9-7. The 2015 offense, led by breakout QB Tyrod Taylor, defied expectations and ended above average, improving by a few points per game. But the defense was mediocre, getting about 4 points per game worse. The team finished 8-8. Frustrating! To improve synergy, the Bills have reunited the Ryan brothers, with Rex continuing as head coach and Rob joining to lead the defense. Rob Ryan was an NFL defensive coordinator for the previous 12 seasons, and one of his teams (the 2013 Saints) allowed the fourth-fewest points in the NFL that year. His other 11 teams finished 13th, 16th, 18th, 21st, 24th, 24th, 25th, 26th, 28th, 31st and 32nd. That’s not great. We project the 2016 Bills to win 8.1 games. New York Jets Despite Jets-ing its way out of a playoff spot, New York had a solid 2015 season, finishing with 10 wins and the eighth-best point differential in the league. New QB Ryan Fitzpatrick had the best season of his career, thanks in large part to the addition of standout WR Brandon Marshall, who had 1,502 yards receiving (6 yards short of a career high) and 14 touchdowns. Ryan Fitzpatrick was 33 years old, and Marshall was 31. The Jets will employ their “maybe this older skill player just needs a change of scenery” strategy again in 2016, having signed former Chicago running back Matt Forte, who is 30 years old. If all three peak, anything could happen! They probably won’t, though — Fitzpatrick in particular is a major regression candidate. He gets a lot of help from Marshall and fellow receiver Eric Decker, but generally speaking, 33-year-old QBs don’t just suddenly figure it out. And our Elo ratings were not particularly kind to the 2015 Jets, who saw a lot of their wins come against pretty mediocre opponents. Based on these ratings, we project them to win 7.9 games. Miami Dolphins As we’ve written before, our Elo rating system has pretty simple inputsAmong other things, it doesn’t take into account if players changed teams during the offseason, or got injured, or were suspended. Sometimes — as the 2015 Dolphins proved — it doesn’t hurt to know less. During the 2015 offseason, the Dolphins “made a splash”2 by adding defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, tight end Jordan Cameron and wide receiver Kenny Stills to their roster, bolstering a young squad that seemed on the verge of breaking out. Vegas put Miami’s wins over/under at 8.5, and when it looked like Tom Brady might be suspended for the first four games of the season, the hype train began: The Dolphins suddenly became a hot pick to win the AFC East. Our Elo predictions, knowing none of this, projected the team to win just 7.5 games. They won six. Things don’t look much better for 2016. Ryan Tannehill, leader of an offense that averaged just 16 points a game from Week 8 onward, is entering his fifth NFL season and officially doesn’t count as a prospect anymore. The Dolphins still have to play the Patriots twice. We project them to win 6.4 games. Maybe they’ll surprise us. They did last year. > http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/can-anyone-in-the-afc-east-challenge-the-patriots-for-once/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCEastFan Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 This thread is tailor made for TX. I assume he has been banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 No Brady, no Ninkovich, and Gronk has a bad hammy - THAT PIG BE RIPE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 We go as far as this guy takes us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: We go as far as this guy takes us Can someone photoshop a bicep in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 3 hours ago, BigRy56 said: No Brady, no Ninkovich, and Gronk has a bad hammy - THAT PIG BE RIPE! I haven't posted here consistently for years. I'm glad THE PIG IS RIPE is still a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Not until they start cheating better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I give us a better than 50 50 shot at winning the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawyers guns and money Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 What the hell is Elo? Besides electric light orchestra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostradamus Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Talent is there...but they gotta perform. Which i think they will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I actually like the Bills when their QB says things like this.. "I play this game to be one of the greatest players to ever play." - Tyrod Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 WTF is an Elo rating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCEastFan Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 45 minutes ago, j4jets said: WTF is an Elo rating? 2 hours ago, lawyers guns and money said: What the hell is Elo? Besides electric light orchestra Elo ratings are chess ratings that the 538 guys like to apply to football to show how smart they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan39 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 7 hours ago, BigRy56 said: No Brady, no Ninkovich, and Gronk has a bad hammy - THAT PIG BE RIPE! i guess if we say it often enough it may come true one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackenberg - Banned Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 dont worry, the Bills are winning the division. ...oh,wait,sorry,..wrong place to say that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackenberg - Banned Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 2 hours ago, j4jets said: WTF is an Elo rating? what the band thinks if the football team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 When is the last time the Jets were 8th in the league in point differential? They were 7-2 vs teams under 500, which for the most part is taking care of business. The entire team didn't show up in Oakland, Fitz got hurt, the defense played their worst game of the season & it was early in the season when the team really hadn't gelled yet. The Eagles game was horrible. Marshall was hobbling around on a bad ankle, and the special teams were anything but special giving up a punt return TD to Darren Sproles. Other than the Oakland game WITHOUT their starting QB, every loss was the result of maybe making just 1 play! Marshall dropped a TD right on his hands that would have forced the Pats to go 80 yards & finish with a TD just to TIE the game. Devin Smith gave the Bills 7 points, we lost by 5. Bowles & Rogers blew the Houston game with a horrible defensive scheme regarding Hopkins. And we were in FG range in Buffalo when Fitz threw a pick. Thats quite a difference from Genos rookie season going 8-8 but having the worst point differential. This is what gives me solice that with a 2nd year under Bowles & Gailey, the upgrade in special teams, the speed added to the LB core, the discovery of a 4th WR in Anderson/J.Marshall, and the addition of Forte so the entire playbook is available on every down with the Forte/Powell combo. If, and that's a big IF we can get out of the gate at 2-0, you know sans injury that Bowles & Rogers will be bringing along these youngsters & the Jets defense should actually get better as the season progresses. I'm pumped for this season! MetLife is going to be ELECTRIC at kickoff on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Excellent post Jester except I think the run game suffers this season.....and all that that implies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Everyone in the AFC East will be facing a tougher schedule. That, combined with Brady's well-deserved 4-game suspension, I wouldn't be surprised if a 9-7 team wins the AFC East this year. That said, it's wide open. It will be the Jets, tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 17 hours ago, kelly said: but generally speaking, 33-year-old QBs don’t just suddenly figure it out. Ever hear of Vinny Testaverde or Rich Gannon? How About Kurt Warner? On another note, Tim Tebow jut signed a minor league deal with the Mets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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