Smashmouth Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I looked to see if he was inactive and he was not ...why didn't he see the field today I'm sure his speed and talent would have been helpful might have even caught the Bengals by surprise on a few plays. Forgot to DVR the game to see if he ever stepped on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Don't remember seeing him. Fitz would under throw him anyways so it didn't matter, but hey, Geno sucks cuz he didn't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I was actually surprised at how locked on the Jets were with the Marshall - Decker - Enunwa look. I am not knocking it, just saying that they went that way more than I thought they would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 minute ago, j4jets said: Don't remember seeing him. Fitz would under throw him anyways so it didn't matter, but hey, Geno sucks cuz he didn't play. I didn't start this thread for this nonsense please stop this its really getting old please troll elsewhere if you can't be mature enough to have a decent conversation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 He was in a couple plays but Fitz just throws to the big guys to have any chance of making a completion with wild ass sh*ttty throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 Just now, Maxman said: I was actually surprised at how locked on the Jets were with the Marshall - Decker - Enunwa look. I am not knocking it, just saying that they went that way more than I thought they would. Yeah Max I was asking the same question we seemed very predictable and we had to hear Simms say we had no one open a few too many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 Looking back at the Jets past going back 40 years think about how many times we were burned by an unknown rookie. Shame we can't pull the same rabbit's out of our hats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: Yeah Max I was asking the same question we seemed very predictable and we had to hear Simms say we had no one open a few too many times. The coverage was good but I didn't feel like Fitz was accurate. Marshall and Decker could have helped him out a few times with balls thrown slightly behind them. But they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 Just now, Maxman said: The coverage was good but I didn't feel like Fitz was accurate. Marshall and Decker could have helped him out a few times with balls thrown slightly behind them. But they didn't. At times he seemed to force the ball and I hope we don't see much more of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Smashmouth said: At times he seemed to force the ball and I hope we don't see much more of that. He had time so I am not sure. I felt like the Jets were out gameplanned. The Bengals showed blitz a lot and the Jets would check...then no blitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 Funny thing with Peake and Andersons height advantage we didn't see them at the goal line either and both seemed to play that role very well in the preseason even with Defenders all over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 Just now, Maxman said: He had time so I am not sure. I felt like the Jets were out gameplanned. The Bengals showed blitz a lot and the Jets would check...then no blitz. Yep .... The Bengals had one series where they really disrupted the pocket maybe a few in a row I can't recall but it seemed that disrupted our entire game plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Smashmouth said: I didn't start this thread for this nonsense please stop this its really getting old please troll elsewhere if you can't be mature enough to have a decent conversation What happened, used up all the periods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 5 hours ago, Smashmouth said: Funny thing with Peake and Andersons height advantage we didn't see them at the goal line either and both seemed to play that role very well in the preseason even with Defenders all over them. B Marsh, Decker and then Enunwa stepped up big time this offseason how do you sit one of them to play a very good Bengals team on week 1 of the regular season in the redzone? Peake and Anderson looked great in the Preseason but they are still rookies playing on a pretty deep depth chart, they have to earn their time on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Fitz was not throwing to Peake or Anderson in the PS. Could be due to reps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 6 hours ago, Smashmouth said: Funny thing with Peake and Andersons height advantage we didn't see them at the goal line either and both seemed to play that role very well in the preseason even with Defenders all over them. Me? I like to see one of those guys catching the ball at the 50 Brandon Marshall dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 hour ago, bealeb319 said: B Marsh, Decker and then Enunwa stepped up big time this offseason how do you sit one of them to play a very good Bengals team on week 1 of the regular season in the redzone? Peake and Anderson looked great in the Preseason but they are still rookies playing on a pretty deep depth chart, they have to earn their time on the field. never said I wanted to sit any of those players but when you apparently have a ton of depth at the WR position you expect to see a few different packages especially at the goal line. What we saw yesterday was poor use of personnel. Yes I would agree you don't want to sit any of those guys but keep in mind they could have subbed out from time to time to keep players fresh and they could have been used where they seemed to excel in the preseason which was at the goal line and stretching the defense. Both Peake and Anderson showed a ton of ability to go up and get the football, Marshall did not look healthy so at that point maybe you rest him from time to time. Keep in mind our 2 top receivers are 30 + so yes you do need to give them a break. If not why even have the other guys on the damn roster ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 7 hours ago, Smashmouth said: Looking back at the Jets past going back 40 years think about how many times we were burned by an unknown rookie. Shame we can't pull the same rabbit's out of our hats It's a good thing to have short term memory when you're a Jets fan. How else can you forget about Wayne Chrebet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 Just now, j4jets said: It's a good thing to have short term memory when you're a Jets fan. How else can you forget about Wayne Chrebet. Didn't forget about Wayne Chrebet at all.... I was using a reference to point out players on our CURRENT roster. I'm sorry you still feel a little beat down over my post asking you to basically STFU and go troll elsewhere but I didn't expect the punctuation police and examples of Players who made the roster 21 years ago. Certainly the Jets have been surprised by many more rookies than we have produced over the years surely as a Jets fan you would know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Rich CiminiESPN Staff Writer Jets defensive snap analysis (based on 57 snaps): DL – Wilkerson 54, Williams 53, McLendon 34, Thomas 28, Jenkins 23, Simon 4; LB – Harris 57, Lee 36, Mauldin 23, Henderson 21, Catapano 15, Stanford 5, Martin 2, Carter DNP; DB – Skrine 57, Revis 57, Gilchrist 57, Pryor 51, Williams 45, Miles 5, Burris DNP. After 16-hour days of rehab, Harris played the entire game. Defense in nickel most of the game, resulting in low number for Henderson. Rookie Thomas, UDFA, a surprise starter in 4-3 look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Rich CiminiESPN Staff Writer Jets offensive snap analysis (out of 71 snaps): RBs – Forte 54, Powell 17, Howsare 1; WRs – Decker 70, Marshall 68, Enunwa 63, J. Marshall 15, Anderson 4; TEs – Davis 54, Bostick 8; RT – Ijalana 39, Qvale 32. Surprised by the disparity between Forte and Powell, who was limited to third downs. Also surprised that Davis played so much on passing downs. Fullback now a dinosaur in the Jets' offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 Just now, flgreen said: Rich CiminiESPN Staff Writer Jets offensive snap analysis (out of 71 snaps): RBs – Forte 54, Powell 17, Howsare 1; WRs – Decker 70, Marshall 68, Enunwa 63, J. Marshall 15, Anderson 4; TEs – Davis 54, Bostick 8; RT – Ijalana 39, Qvale 32. Surprised by the disparity between Forte and Powell, who was limited to third downs. Also surprised that Davis played so much on passing downs. Fullback now a dinosaur in the Jets' offense. thanks for posting this So Anderson got 4 snaps and Peake got 0 while our 30 + year old WRS were in on 70 snaps ? Sorry but that's just stupid use of personnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: Didn't forget about Wayne Chrebet at all.... I was using a reference to point out players on our CURRENT roster. I'm sorry you still feel a little beat down over my post asking you to basically STFU and go troll elsewhere but I didn't expect the punctuation police and examples of Players who made the roster 21 years ago. Certainly the Jets have been surprised by many more rookies than we have produced over the years surely as a Jets fan you would know this. Yeah STFU cuz you don't like your boy getting dumped on. Interesting how that's still on your mind. Good thing the week is just 4 days long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 It's a fair point to say that Anderson and Fitz don't mix well. It's why we need Bryce Petty to be good enough to become the starting QB for the Jets in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, j4jets said: Yeah STFU cuz you don't like your boy getting dumped on. Interesting how that's still on your mind. Good thing the week is just 4 days long. this thread is not about Fitz and Geno so move the **** on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 17 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: thanks for posting this So Anderson got 4 snaps and Peake got 0 while our 30 + year old WRS were in on 70 snaps ? Sorry but that's just stupid use of personnel Especially considering that Marshall's hip is clearly still bothering him. If nothing changes, Get ready for more of the same with some bad drops in crucial situations and people calling for his head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Just now, Smashmouth said: this thread is not about Fitz and Geno so move the **** on When I was talking strictly about how you forgot Chrebet, you decided to bring up my Fitz post. Who needs to move the fcuk on now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 8 hours ago, Smashmouth said: I looked to see if he was inactive and he was not ...why didn't he see the field today I'm sure his speed and talent would have been helpful might have even caught the Bengals by surprise on a few plays. Forgot to DVR the game to see if he ever stepped on the field. Didnt seem like we had trouble moving the ball. Just the redzone at times. 1st and goal from the 2 was crushing... Overall, I was happy with the game plan on offense, not happy that we lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I would like to see the guy get a chance to play (as a receiver) and get some targets on Thursday night. I see him being effective in that 20 plus yard category of receptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: I would like to see the guy get a chance to play (as a receiver) and get some targets on Thursday night. I see him being effective in that 20 plus yard category of receptions. He def. has the skill-set for that. Problem is, as we all know, is we have a QB that is mostly incapable of being effective in that 20+ yard category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 Amazing then that Fitz was right in the middle of the pack in Actual air yards how did he pull that off ?? How did he have more Air yards than guys like Jay Cutler and Aaron Rodgers ? How was he only a few hundred yards behind the leaders with less attempts ? Quarterback Air Yards Leaders 2015 Rank Player Team YDS YAC Air Yards AY/Att % of Air Yards % of YAC to Total Yards 1 Carson Palmer ARI 4,671 1,774 2,897 5.39 62.0% 38.0% 2 Matt Ryan ATL 4,591 1,926 2,665 4.34 58.1% 42.0% 3 Blake Bortles JAX 4,428 1,778 2,650 4.37 59.9% 40.2% 4 Jameis Winston TB 4,042 1,514 2,528 4.73 62.5% 37.5% 5 Ben Roethlisberger PIT 3,938 1,469 2,469 5.26 62.7% 37.3% 6 Drew Brees NO 4,870 2,406 2,464 3.93 50.6% 49.4% 7 Tom Brady NE 4,770 2,399 2,371 3.80 49.7% 50.3% 8 Cam Newton CAR 3,837 1,467 2,370 4.79 61.8% 38.2% 9 Eli Manning NYG 4,432 2,095 2,337 3.78 52.7% 47.3% 10 Kirk Cousins WAS 4,166 1,908 2,258 4.16 54.2% 45.8% 11 Ryan Tannehill MIA 4,208 1,951 2,257 3.85 53.6% 46.4% 12 Russell Wilson SEA 4,024 1,818 2,206 4.57 54.8% 45.2% 13 Derek Carr OAK 3,987 1,850 2,137 3.73 53.6% 46.4% 14 Ryan Fitzpatrick NYJ 3,905 1,782 2,123 3.78 54.4% 45.6% 15 Philip Rivers SD 4,792 2,679 2,113 3.20 44.1% 55.9% 16 Tyrod Taylor BUF 3,035 1,137 1,898 4.99 62.5% 37.5% 17 Matthew Stafford DET 4,262 2,402 1,860 3.14 43.6% 56.4% 18 Jay Cutler CHI 3,659 1,808 1,851 3.83 50.6% 49.4% 19 Aaron Rodgers GB 3,821 2,025 1,796 3.14 47.0% 53.0% 20 Andy Dalton CIN 3,250 1,467 1,783 4.62 54.9% 45.1% 21 Brian Hoyer HOU 2,606 909 1,697 4.60 65.1% 34.9% 22 Sam Bradford PHI 3,725 2,048 1,677 3.15 45.0% 55.0% 23 Marcus Mariota TEN 2,818 1,184 1,634 4.42 58.0% 42.0% 24 Alex Smith KC 3,486 1,971 1,515 3.22 43.5% 56.5% 25 Teddy Bridgewater MIN 3,231 1,816 1,415 3.17 43.8% 56.2% 26 Joe Flacco BAL 2,791 1,488 1,303 3.16 46.7% 53.3% 27 Peyton Manning DEN 2,249 975 1,274 3.85 56.7% 43.4% 28 Andrew Luck IND 1,881 721 1,160 3.96 61.7% 38.3% 29 Josh McCown CLE 2,109 1,017 1,092 3.74 51.8% 48.2% 30 Brock Osweiler DEN 1,967 919 1,048 3.81 53.3% 46.7% 31 Blaine Gabbert SF 2,031 1,108 923 3.27 45.5% 54.6% 32 Matt Hasselbeck IND 1,690 798 892 3.48 52.8% 47.2% 33 Ryan Mallett HOU 1,336 454 882 3.61 66.0% 34.0% 34 Johnny Manziel CLE 1,500 710 790 3.54 52.7% 47.3% 35 Nick Foles STL 2,052 1,267 785 2.33 38.3% 61.7% 36 Colin Kaepernick SF 1,615 864 751 3.08 46.5% 53.5% 37 Matt Cassel BUF 1,276 570 706 3.46 55.3% 44.7% 38 Brandon Weeden HOU 1,043 473 570 4.07 54.7% 45.4% 39 AJ McCarron CIN 854 327 527 4.43 61.7% 38.3% 40 Zach Mettenberger TEN 935 432 503 3.03 53.8% 46.2% 41 Tony Romo DAL 884 431 453 3.74 51.2% 48.8% 42 Jimmy Clausen CHI 739 301 438 3.50 59.3% 40.7% 43 Kellen Moore DAL 779 353 426 4.10 54.7% 45.3% 44 Case Keenum STL 828 423 405 3.24 48.9% 51.1% 45 EJ Manuel BUF 561 160 401 4.77 71.5% 28.5% 46 Austin Davis CLE 547 206 341 3.63 62.3% 37.7% 47 Matt Schaub BAL 540 227 313 3.91 58.0% 42.0% 48 Mark Sanchez PHI 616 342 274 3.01 44.5% 55.5% 49 T.J. Yates HOU 370 112 258 4.53 69.7% 30.3% 50 Landry Jones PIT 513 271 242 4.40 47.2% 52.8% 51 Luke McCown NO 335 145 190 4.87 56.7% 43.3% 52 Mike Vick PIT 371 187 184 2.79 49.6% 50.4% 53 Geno Smith NYJ 265 84 181 4.31 68.3% 31.7% 54 Dan Orlovsky DET 201 82 119 2.98 59.2% 40.8% 55 Josh Freeman IND 149 65 84 3.00 56.4% 43.6% 56 Alex Tanney TEN 99 18 81 5.79 81.8% 18.2% 57 Drew Stanton ARI 104 33 71 2.84 68.3% 31.7% 58 Matt McGloin OAK 142 78 64 2.00 45.1% 54.9% 59 Kellen Clemens SD 63 4 59 9.83 93.7% 6.4% 60 Charlie Whitehurst IND 150 99 51 1.59 34.0% 66.0% 61 Colt McCoy WAS 128 79 49 4.45 38.3% 61.7% 62 Ryan Lindley IND 58 10 48 4.80 82.8% 17.2% 63 Ryan Nassib NYG 68 21 47 9.40 69.1% 30.9% 64 Sean Mannion STL 31 11 20 2.86 64.5% 35.5% 65 Derek Anderson CAR 36 23 13 2.17 36.1% 63.9% 66 Tarvaris Jackson SEA 37 26 11 1.83 29.7% 70.3% 67 Jimmy Garoppolo NE 6 1 5 1.25 83.3% 16.7% 68 Shaun Hill MIN 15 10 5 0.71 33.3% 66.7% 69 Matt Moore MIA 14 10 4 4.00 28.6% 71.4% 70 Chase Daniel KC 4 1 3 1.50 75.0% 25.0% 71 Scott Tolzien GB 4 1 3 3.00 75.0% 25.0% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Smashmouth said: Quarterback Air Yards Leaders 2015 Rank Player Team YDS YAC Air Yards AY/Att % of Air Yards % of YAC to Total Yards 1 Carson Palmer ARI 4,671 1,774 2,897 5.39 62.0% 38.0% 2 Matt Ryan ATL 4,591 1,926 2,665 4.34 58.1% 42.0% 3 Blake Bortles JAX 4,428 1,778 2,650 4.37 59.9% 40.2% 4 Jameis Winston TB 4,042 1,514 2,528 4.73 62.5% 37.5% 5 Ben Roethlisberger PIT 3,938 1,469 2,469 5.26 62.7% 37.3% 6 Drew Brees NO 4,870 2,406 2,464 3.93 50.6% 49.4% 7 Tom Brady NE 4,770 2,399 2,371 3.80 49.7% 50.3% 8 Cam Newton CAR 3,837 1,467 2,370 4.79 61.8% 38.2% 9 Eli Manning NYG 4,432 2,095 2,337 3.78 52.7% 47.3% 10 Kirk Cousins WAS 4,166 1,908 2,258 4.16 54.2% 45.8% 11 Ryan Tannehill MIA 4,208 1,951 2,257 3.85 53.6% 46.4% 12 Russell Wilson SEA 4,024 1,818 2,206 4.57 54.8% 45.2% 13 Derek Carr OAK 3,987 1,850 2,137 3.73 53.6% 46.4% 14 Ryan Fitzpatrick NYJ 3,905 1,782 2,123 3.78 54.4% 45.6% 15 Philip Rivers SD 4,792 2,679 2,113 3.20 44.1% 55.9% 16 Tyrod Taylor BUF 3,035 1,137 1,898 4.99 62.5% 37.5% 17 Matthew Stafford DET 4,262 2,402 1,860 3.14 43.6% 56.4% 18 Jay Cutler CHI 3,659 1,808 1,851 3.83 50.6% 49.4% 19 Aaron Rodgers GB 3,821 2,025 1,796 3.14 47.0% 53.0% 20 Andy Dalton CIN 3,250 1,467 1,783 4.62 54.9% 45.1% 21 Brian Hoyer HOU 2,606 909 1,697 4.60 65.1% 34.9% 22 Sam Bradford PHI 3,725 2,048 1,677 3.15 45.0% 55.0% 23 Marcus Mariota TEN 2,818 1,184 1,634 4.42 58.0% 42.0% 24 Alex Smith KC 3,486 1,971 1,515 3.22 43.5% 56.5% 25 Teddy Bridgewater MIN 3,231 1,816 1,415 3.17 43.8% 56.2% 26 Joe Flacco BAL 2,791 1,488 1,303 3.16 46.7% 53.3% 27 Peyton Manning DEN 2,249 975 1,274 3.85 56.7% 43.4% 28 Andrew Luck IND 1,881 721 1,160 3.96 61.7% 38.3% 29 Josh McCown CLE 2,109 1,017 1,092 3.74 51.8% 48.2% 30 Brock Osweiler DEN 1,967 919 1,048 3.81 53.3% 46.7% 31 Blaine Gabbert SF 2,031 1,108 923 3.27 45.5% 54.6% 32 Matt Hasselbeck IND 1,690 798 892 3.48 52.8% 47.2% 33 Ryan Mallett HOU 1,336 454 882 3.61 66.0% 34.0% 34 Johnny Manziel CLE 1,500 710 790 3.54 52.7% 47.3% 35 Nick Foles STL 2,052 1,267 785 2.33 38.3% 61.7% 36 Colin Kaepernick SF 1,615 864 751 3.08 46.5% 53.5% 37 Matt Cassel BUF 1,276 570 706 3.46 55.3% 44.7% 38 Brandon Weeden HOU 1,043 473 570 4.07 54.7% 45.4% 39 AJ McCarron CIN 854 327 527 4.43 61.7% 38.3% 40 Zach Mettenberger TEN 935 432 503 3.03 53.8% 46.2% 41 Tony Romo DAL 884 431 453 3.74 51.2% 48.8% 42 Jimmy Clausen CHI 739 301 438 3.50 59.3% 40.7% 43 Kellen Moore DAL 779 353 426 4.10 54.7% 45.3% 44 Case Keenum STL 828 423 405 3.24 48.9% 51.1% 45 EJ Manuel BUF 561 160 401 4.77 71.5% 28.5% 46 Austin Davis CLE 547 206 341 3.63 62.3% 37.7% 47 Matt Schaub BAL 540 227 313 3.91 58.0% 42.0% 48 Mark Sanchez PHI 616 342 274 3.01 44.5% 55.5% 49 T.J. Yates HOU 370 112 258 4.53 69.7% 30.3% 50 Landry Jones PIT 513 271 242 4.40 47.2% 52.8% 51 Luke McCown NO 335 145 190 4.87 56.7% 43.3% 52 Mike Vick PIT 371 187 184 2.79 49.6% 50.4% 53 Geno Smith NYJ 265 84 181 4.31 68.3% 31.7% 54 Dan Orlovsky DET 201 82 119 2.98 59.2% 40.8% 55 Josh Freeman IND 149 65 84 3.00 56.4% 43.6% 56 Alex Tanney TEN 99 18 81 5.79 81.8% 18.2% 57 Drew Stanton ARI 104 33 71 2.84 68.3% 31.7% 58 Matt McGloin OAK 142 78 64 2.00 45.1% 54.9% 59 Kellen Clemens SD 63 4 59 9.83 93.7% 6.4% 60 Charlie Whitehurst IND 150 99 51 1.59 34.0% 66.0% 61 Colt McCoy WAS 128 79 49 4.45 38.3% 61.7% 62 Ryan Lindley IND 58 10 48 4.80 82.8% 17.2% 63 Ryan Nassib NYG 68 21 47 9.40 69.1% 30.9% 64 Sean Mannion STL 31 11 20 2.86 64.5% 35.5% 65 Derek Anderson CAR 36 23 13 2.17 36.1% 63.9% 66 Tarvaris Jackson SEA 37 26 11 1.83 29.7% 70.3% 67 Jimmy Garoppolo NE 6 1 5 1.25 83.3% 16.7% 68 Shaun Hill MIN 15 10 5 0.71 33.3% 66.7% 69 Matt Moore MIA 14 10 4 4.00 28.6% 71.4% 70 Chase Daniel KC 4 1 3 1.50 75.0% 25.0% 71 Scott Tolzien GB 4 1 3 3.00 75.0% 25.0% Amazing then that Fitz was right in the middle of the pack in Actual air yards how did he pull that off ?? How did he have more Air yards than guys like Jay Cutler and Aaron Rodgers ? How was he only a few hundred yards behind the leaders with less attempts ? So wait. Are you saying Fitz is a quality deep ball thrower? I watch him play every week, I know what he's good at and not. "air yards" really? That's what your pointing to to say Fitz throws a good deep ball. It's just silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: So wait. Are you saying Fitz is a quality deep ball thrower? I watch him play every week, I know what he's good at and not. "air yards" really? That's what your pointing to to say Fitz throws a good deep ball. It's just silly. Is that what I said ?????? Read the post don't put words in my mouth. Fitz threw a lot of intermediate passes last year because he had no other outlet or check down option. He actually threw downfield more than most QB's in the NFL and faired quite well. The deep balls he did throw were part of a game plan to open up those intermediate routes. Fitz had some timing issues with Smith because they didn't work together at all and even when saying that Smith never adjusted to nay of the deep balls thrown to him the way real WR's do. Fitz can throw deep he did it numerous times last year his downfall was the little amount of work he had with our only deep threat which happened to be Smith who sucked . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Smashmouth said: Is that what I said ?????? Read the post don't put words in my mouth. Fitz threw a lot of intermediate passes last year because he had no other outlet or check down option. He actually threw downfield more than most QB's in the NFL and faired quite well. The deep balls he did throw were part of a game plan to open up those intermediate routes. Fitz had some timing issues with Smith because they didn't work together at all and even when saying that Smith never adjusted to nay of the deep balls thrown to him the way real WR's do. Fitz can throw deep he did it numerous times last year his downfall was the little amount of work he had with our only deep threat which happened to be Smith who sucked . you commented on a post about his inability to throw a deep ball with a list of names and some obscure statistic. I didn't say you said anything, I just asked the question if that's what you were trying to say. Blaming the timing or WR's for his lack of deep ball success is simply excuse making - sure more reps together would help, but that's far from the main issue. The reason he doesn't throw the deep ball well is his weak arm. When you have a weak arm you must put everything you have into the throw - therefor sacrificing accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: you commented on a post about his inability to throw a deep ball with a list of names and some obscure statistic. I didn't say you said anything, I just asked the question if that's what you were trying to say. Blaming the timing or WR's for his lack of deep ball success is simply excuse making - sure more reps together would help, but that's far from the main issue. The reason he doesn't throw the deep ball well is his weak arm. When you have a weak arm you must put everything you have into the throw - therefor sacrificing accuracy. Air yards is NOT an obscure statistic it shows how far a QB actually throws the ball to completion so you would think all the big arm QB's would be at the top and that's NOT the case . Yes this is a different NFL these days but its a ball control passing NFL not so much a gunslinger mentality that some folks here think we need as a QB. The greatest QB's of all time Joe Montana and Tom Brady both run and ran short passing ball control offenses so in that respect I don't want to hear about throwing deep and how a strong arm makes a QB because it certainly does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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