kmnj Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 probably no sammy w this week so jets d should be able to clamp down on the bills this week odds Fitz does not have a good game and earn that raise he got 100000000000000000% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 The odds are worse than we'd like, Fitz has trouble with Rex defenses (as do many QB's better than Fitz). But a poor showing, and a loss it would bring, will put a nasty shadow on this year, and may spell the beginning of the (early) end and a QB change being inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Warfish said: The odds are worse than we'd like, Fitz has trouble with Rex defenses (as do many QB's better than Fitz). But a poor showing, and a loss it would bring, will put a nasty shadow on this year, and may spell the beginning of the (early) end and a QB change being inevitable. With the extra few days between games the change may not be Geno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I think he was satisfactory yesterday and can be satisfactory to good on Thursday night. It's really up to him to deal with Rex's blitzing packages and he should be able to handle it esp running the ball himself when there is a big rush. That's a major part of his game. Our two games last season were close games even though he's been ripped apart for losing both times. It's time for that to change. We lost to a better team than they lost to yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Rangers9 said: I think he was satisfactory yesterday and can be satisfactory to good on Thursday night. It's really up to him to deal with Rex's blitzing packages and he should be able to handle it esp running the ball himself when there is a big rush. That's a major part of his game. Our two games last season were close games even though he's been ripped apart for losing both times. It's time for that to change. We lost to a better team than they lost to yesterday. I just don't see how 19/35 2/1 for 189 is satisfactory. The OL played very well, much better than expected and the Run Game produced 154 yards. Fitz was pedestrian at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Last year was our year to win a Superbowl. This year we are better - and Fitz is PISSED!!!! Expect a big game. My money is on 400 yards and 4-5 touchdowns (4 in the air and 1 rushing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, Warfish said: The odds are worse than we'd like, Fitz has trouble with Rex defenses (as do many QB's better than Fitz). But a poor showing, and a loss it would bring, will put a nasty shadow on this year, and may spell the beginning of the (early) end and a QB change being inevitable. if they lose and fitz is at least part of the problem, that will be 0-3 vs buffalo and everyone will be writing how wise mccags was not to lock him up long-term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: if they lose and fitz is at least part of the problem, that will be 0-3 vs buffalo and everyone will be writing how wise mccags was not to lock him up long-term. He was wise not to lock him up long-term. I wonder exactly what the asking price was to move up in the draft for Wentz. Or, for that matter, at what point we decided not to make a play for Osweiller. Damn I hope Petty or Hack can be the guy. It would be so nice to have a QB that can hide some of the shortcomings... or the 1-2 mistakes we make in a game. Instead, every weak area, ever mistake is exponentially amplified ... because we look to all other areas to over-compensate for an average (at best) QB. I hope Fitz gets on track... this is going to be a sh*t season if not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Just now, Integrity28 said: He was wise not to lock him up long-term. I wonder exactly what the asking price was to move up in the draft for Wentz. Or, for that matter, at what point we decided not to make a play for Osweiller. Damn I hope Petty or Hack can be the guy. It would be so nice to have a QB that can hide some of the shortcomings... or the 1-2 mistakes we make in a game. Instead, every weak area, ever mistake is exponentially amplified ... because we look to all other areas to over-compensate for an average (at best) QB. I hope Fitz gets on track... this is going to be a sh*t season if not. that's right. all the other mistakes look worse b/c the qb can't overcome them. if the jets converted on only 1 of those red zone failures they win despite folk. mccags knows this, he's drafted 2 guys with big arms, and he's committed to developing them. the problem on our end is they went 10-6 last season and we're kinda in denial they can do it again playing better teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: that's right. all the other mistakes look worse b/c the qb can't overcome them. if the jets converted on only 1 of those red zone failures they win despite folk. mccags knows this, he's drafted 2 guys with big arms, and he's committed to developing them. the problem on our end is they went 10-6 last season and we're kinda in denial they can do it again playing better teams. Well, in every way except the outcome, we beat them yesterday. Despite all this. We outplayed the crap out of them... so, I'm not in denial. I think we're built to be in every game we play. However, we are built to be afraid to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: I just don't see how 19/35 2/1 for 189 is satisfactory. The OL played very well, much better than expected and the Run Game produced 154 yards. Fitz was pedestrian at best. Pedestrian is a stretch, he was below average. When the OLine controls Atkins & Dunlap like they did and generates that much yardage on the ground the QB is set up for a big day in the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Fitz has a good enough arm to throw a red zone Td. It's really the play and how it develops in those situations. Not arm strength. He's actually usually good in the red zone because of his legs. But we don't know about next year and who the Qb is going to be. The big arm in the red zone is not really a factor. It's your ability to run a play. And imo he has an adequate arm and can throw medium to long. Bombs are overrated because they make up a very small percentage of successful plays. Too many imo fans are overly attracted to big arms. I'll take a guy like Russell Wilson over some of these muscle heads who can throw hard but not smartly run an offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Just now, Integrity28 said: Well, in every way except the outcome, we beat them yesterday. Despite all this. We outplayed the crap out of them... so, I'm not in denial. I think we're built to be in every game we play. However, we are built to be afraid to win. the problem with the team is that they are less able to overcome mistakes b/c they do not generate as many big plays on offense as other teams. the bengals can chuck it downfield, they are not afraid. the jets can't, or won't, or are not ready to send robbie anderson down the field with single coverage and hope fitz can hit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 29 minutes ago, kmnj said: probably no sammy w this week so jets d should be able to clamp down on the bills this week odds Fitz does not have a good game and earn that raise he got 100000000000000000% Watkins is hurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, KRL said: Pedestrian is a stretch, he was below average. When the OLine controls Atkins & Dunlap like they did and generates that much yardage on the ground the QB is set up for a big day in the air Pedestrian is better than below average, it's middle of the road. While pedestrian is truly a perfect description for him, Fitz actually is below average. He was 23rd best last year out of 32. Below average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 12 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Well, in every way except the outcome, we beat them yesterday. Despite all this. We outplayed the crap out of them... so, I'm not in denial. I think we're built to be in every game we play. However, we are built to be afraid to win. Oooooooooo!!!!!! Grow a pair Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Marshall had a blah game last week so I expect him to break 100 yards with 1 or 2 tds this week, Fitz will have another (short) week under his belt and Forte will be a huge help so all and all the O should look better. A lot of dump offs to forte and a few deep passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, Xtina said: Pedestrian is better than below average, it's middle of the road. While pedestrian is truly a perfect description for him, Fitz actually is below average. He was 23rd best last year out of 32. Below average. But ya gotta love Fitz. His persona makes up for his lack of skills. The players love him. He's their leader win or lose. If Dilfer can win with the Ravens, Fitz can win with the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Fitz has been bad vs Rex Ryan D his entire career, I don't expect this to change. Fitz will have around 50% completion with at least one turnover. It will be a tight game that will tough to watch. I think jets will win though. We may end up needing a score on defense or specials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Powpow said: But ya gotta love Fitz. His persona makes up for his lack of skills. The players love him. He's their leader win or lose. If Dilfer can win with the Ravens, Fitz can win with the Jets. I don't love him at 12mil for 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Fitz is too worried about a quick release the dude barely let plays develop yesterday hes gotta slow down, and Gailey has to stop being a moron in the red zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, peebag said: I don't love him at 12mil for 2016. Fair price 1 year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 47 minutes ago, kmnj said: probably no sammy w this week so jets d should be able to clamp down on the bills this week Sounds like we're in for another SOJ performance. Hang on tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 There are some posters on this board who are going to rip Fitz no matter what. They just hate him for whatever reason. If you followed the game on this site you know we have fans that go play for play. If a guy makes a bad play they want to cut him on the spot. So kind of hard to deal with those mentalities. And the 12 mil is low wages for a starting Qb. The Jets got a good deal and only one year. Why don't we wait and see how this season unfolds. It wasn't a terrible first game. We are very competitive and can play and hopefully beat the better teams. We sacked the Bengals 7 times! Nobody thinks we are an easy opponenty believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 32 minutes ago, KRL said: Pedestrian is a stretch, he was below average. When the OLine controls Atkins & Dunlap like they did and generates that much yardage on the ground the QB is set up for a big day in the air I'll start by saying I'm in 100% agreement with you on Fitz. But did the Oline really "control" anything? Or was the game plan to get the ball out of Fitz's hand as quickly as possible so they wouldn't have to? I also recall an inordinate number of deflected passes. Again. Edit: from a pass blocking standpoint is what I mean. And while overall the running game looked good, we seemed to struggle in short yardage situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Trying to put a positive spin on what was a crap way to start the season, it's unlikely things aren't at least somewhat better come Friday. Potential outcomes: We win and we're back on track for the playoffs. Finally beat Buffalo. Fitz was absolutely worth 12mil. We lose. But we're finally moving on to a younger QB with potential. There's hope again, but even if the season is over in week two, at least the team is trying to make progress. The Fitz-project is over. The only bad outcome is a loss with either a mediocre or bad performance from Fitz and he still stays as the starter. So cheer up all. Glass half full approach. Come Friday, odds are things will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 31 minutes ago, Powpow said: But ya gotta love Fitz. His persona makes up for his lack of skills. The players love him. He's their leader win or lose. If Dilfer can win with the Ravens, Fitz can win with the Jets. I honestly cannot tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 58 minutes ago, Mike135 said: I honestly cannot tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Now hear this. Only when I'm talking to you am I being sarcastic. Take care pal. Seriously though you may be to young to remember Billy Kilmer. Very similar to Fitz. Journeyman, noodle arm but had that something special that team mates and coaches loved. Fitz is the modern day Billy Kilmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 probably no sammy w this week so jets d should be able to clamp down on the bills this week odds Fitz does not have a good game and earn that raise he got 100000000000000000% Fitz and the jets are going to be our for blood in this game. We are going to set single game records and we are still going to have people whine about how our team sucks. Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 the jets win by 2 scores. wont be close. book it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, ylekram said: the jets win by 2 scores. wont be close. book it Hope you're right. Just for reference though, what was your prediction for week 17 last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 8 hours ago, Jetdawgg said: I just don't see how 19/35 2/1 for 189 is satisfactory. The OL played very well, much better than expected and the Run Game produced 154 yards. Fitz was pedestrian at best. Particularly in a league that has rigged the game to favor passing and tds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Just now, Mike135 said: Hope you're right. Just for reference though, what was your prediction for week 17 last year? well, I didn't predict the entire teams wheels would fall off with the playoffs on the line, that's for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Just now, ylekram said: well, I didn't predict the entire teams wheels would fall off with the playoffs on the line, that's for sure Haha, fair enough. Was hoping you knew we'd lose last time we played Rex. Would've made your latest prediction that much more believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Mike135 said: Haha, fair enough. Was hoping you knew we'd lose last time we played Rex. Would've made your latest prediction that much more believable. like I said, book it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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