How good is Andy Dalton?

[Jetster]

My goodness. That ginger can play! How perfect did he drop that ball into Green on the TD? He was throwing darts to the outside on those screens, Green had to lay out a couple of times but that throw on the left sideline to Green with Revis draped all over him was a thing of beauty!

I remember when they paid him I said what? Guy is legit & him getting hurt last year cursed their season. Just look at his record over the last few years. Fitz really looked like the journeyman he is yesterday playing against Dalton. Could you imagine the score had Fitz been under that duress? God, Macc, please find us a QB.

[jeremy2020]

Dalton is not very good. You're just blinded by the 4 headed sh*t monster the Jets have.

[Jetster]

1 minute ago, jeremy2020 said:

Dalton is not very good. You're just blinded by the 4 headed sh*t monster the Jets have.

That's BS. He's developed into a very good QB. He took advantage of every Jet miscue in the secondary with pin point accuracy. What were you watching? And he was doing it while enduring 7 sacks & he never got rattled. Give credit where its due man.

[Jetsfan80]

Last 4 seasons:

2012:  62.3 % completions; 6.9 Yards/Attempt; 20th in DVOA

2013:  61.9; 6.9; 18th

2014:  64.2; 7.3; 25th

2015:  66.1, 8.4; 2nd

 

Sunday

76.7; 12.2; ???

 

Pretty doggone good, I'd say.

[FidelioJet]

He's one of the more underrated QB's in the league.  He's very good and has been for some time.  

[PS17]

In the tier after Brady and Rodgers, he's as good as anyone when he's on his game. The playoffs success will come. 

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, FidelioJet said:

He's one of the more underrated QB's in the league.  He's very good and has been for some time.  

But he has red hair and stuff so he must be terrible

[cant wait]

It's not just dalton, the whole bengals roster is loaded from several years of good drafting. The jets by comparison have drafted a ton of duds and have a lot of catching up to do 

[Jetdawgg]

Dalton is extremely accurate. That is critical to his overall game. He kept his cool yesterday. Mo Wilky crushed him. He still got up and played like it never happened. Tough. Smart and Cool in the pocket. What the NY Jets need in a QB

[Jetsplayer21]

one of these decades we will have a above average qb for once, maybe..

[Flushing Roots]

He's a good QB on a good team.

We should have won but that is not a bad team.

[Jetdawgg]

Clearly Jets fans should see what a difference maker a QB can be. Mac and Bowles know this. Overall, Cincy is very tough. Pitt and Balt are also on the schedule this season. Those two QB's have won SB.

[bealeb319]

Andy Dalton is the real deal. No one gives him credit because he is a ginger.

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[southparkcpa]

We would cut off a testicle to have him.  He should be average but not sure when it happened but QB play has elevated to a point where only 6 to 8 QBs are difference makers.  Dalton is close to that now.   

[T0mShane]

Ginger Tony Romo. Turn the lights off when you leave, homers.

[RevisIsland610]

3 hours ago, cant wait said:

It's not just dalton, the whole bengals roster is loaded from several years of good drafting. The jets by comparison have drafted a ton of duds and have a lot of catching up to do 

The Jets lost by 1 point in the last minute of the game, a game they should have won. There is not that much difference between the 2 teams although Dalton>>>>>Fitz.

[cant wait]

12 minutes ago, RevisIsland610 said:

The Jets lost by 1 point in the last minute of the game, a game they should have won. There is not that much difference between the 2 teams although Dalton>>>>>Fitz.

Bengals were without both Burfict and eifert who were both big for them last year... overall they have much better depth then the jets at every position with the exception of DL and WR2. much younger too with their best players still squarely in their prime. at full strength they have arguably the most balanced roster in the AFC

[Miss Lonelyhearts]

Andy Dalton is the And the Cradle Will Rock of quarterbacks.

[RevisIsland610]

1 minute ago, cant wait said:

Bengals were without both Burfict and eifert who were both big for them last year... overall they have much better depth then the jets at every position with the exception of DL and WR2. much younger too with their best players still squarely in their prime. at full strength they have arguably the most balanced roster in the AFC

They are good, no doubt, and have a much underrated QB but the Jets could have and should have won that game. Jets were without Sheldon Richardson too. The facts are they lost by 1 point, missed an extra point and had a FG blocked. I maintain there is not much different between the 2 teams.

[New York Mick]

If he played for the Jets he'd be the 3rd best QB in Jets history. 

[BUM-KNEE]

He is hot garbage.

[Charlie Brown]

5 hours ago, Jetdawgg said:

Dalton is extremely accurate. That is critical to his overall game. He kept his cool yesterday. Mo Wilky crushed him. He still got up and played like it never happened. Tough. Smart and Cool in the pocket. What the NY Jets need in a QB

The Jets defense was crushing yesterday and Dalton kept his cool and executed executed and executed. 

Fitz wasn't under half the pressure Dalton was in that game. 

[Smashmouth]

12 hours ago, Jetster said:

My goodness. That ginger can play! How perfect did he drop that ball into Green on the TD? He was throwing darts to the outside on those screens, Green had to lay out a couple of times but that throw on the left sideline to Green with Revis draped all over him was a thing of beauty!

I remember when they paid him I said what? Guy is legit & him getting hurt last year cursed their season. Just look at his record over the last few years. Fitz really looked like the journeyman he is yesterday playing against Dalton. Could you imagine the score had Fitz been under that duress? God, Macc, please find us a QB.

there's not one good QB in the entire NFL they all suck

[The Crusher]

13 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

But he has red hair and stuff so he must be terrible

Or evil. 

[Jetsfan80]

12 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Ginger Tony Romo. Turn the lights off when you leave, homers.

So, like Romo, he's been consistently one of the game's 2nd tier QB's, in the process overcoming awful ownership and coaches who have been tenured forever despite no playoff success?  Got it.

[peebag]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

So, like Romo, he's been consistently one of the game's 2nd tier QB's, in the process overcoming awful ownership and coaches who have been tenured forever despite no playoff success?  Got it.

And like Romo at times, makes god awful decisions which cost his team dearly.

[Jetsfan80]

5 minutes ago, peebag said:

And like Romo at times, makes god awful decisions which cost his team dearly.

At times, yes.  But Romo also has 25 career 4th quarter comebacks.  That puts him 14th on the all-time list among QB's. 

For comparison purposes, Joe Montana had 31, Fran Tarkenton and Brett Favre 30, Big Ben, Eli and Johnny Unitas 27, Drew Brees and Warren Moon 26, Dan Fouts 24, Jim Kelly 22, Randall Cunningham 21, Ken Stabler and Bart Starr 19, Joe Namath 16, Roger Staubach 15.

[peebag]

40 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

At times, yes.  But Romo also has 25 career 4th quarter comebacks.  That puts him 14th on the all-time list among QB's. 

For comparison purposes, Joe Montana had 31, Fran Tarkenton and Brett Favre 30, Big Ben, Eli and Johnny Unitas 27, Drew Brees and Warren Moon 26, Dan Fouts 24, Jim Kelly 22, Randall Cunningham 21, Ken Stabler and Bart Starr 19, Joe Namath 16, Roger Staubach 15.

2-4 in playoffs  <yawn>

[Beerfish]

Dalton is pretty good but the jets made it all too easy on him after making him have happy feet after we smacked him around with numerous sacks.  Cincy adjusted with some plays and we failed to take the easy plays away,

[Jetsfan80]

14 minutes ago, peebag said:

2-4 in playoffs  <yawn>

Sure, if that's the simple world we all want to live in.  Mark Sanchez is 4-2 in the playoffs in his career.  Where does he stand among QB's?

Romo is by no means elite, and nor is Dalton.  But QB's aren't just elite or terrible.  There's a middle ground of pretty good/solid QB's.  Guys like Romo and Dalton exist in that zone.  And we'd love to have one like that, because you can build around those types.  It's undeniable. 

[peebag]

Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

Sure, if that's the simple world we all want to live in.  Mark Sanchez is 4-2 in the playoffs. 

Listen - he can't stay on the field and when there's a game the 'boys have to win, he craps the bed.  He's a sunshine warrior.

[Jetsfan80]

2 minutes ago, peebag said:

Listen - he can't stay on the field and when there's a game the 'boys have to win, he craps the bed.  He's a sunshine warrior.

Again, it's an oversimplification we use to make us feel better about the fact that we don't have a guy capable of being called a franchise QB, and really haven't since 1998 and maybe parts of 2002 and 2008.  The Cowboys have had a lot of problems over the years, but their biggest problem has not been Romo.  Not even close.  If we had a QB like him at any point in the last 2 decades we'd be pleased with that kind of productivity. 

[kelticwizard]

The two raps on Dalton is that his arm is not particularly strong and he craps up in money games.  As he matures, his less-than-cannon arm is being compensated by consistent accuracy and all he has to do is win a few playoff games to get rid of the second whammy.  Couple that with the fact that he's got some fast, good receivers who will go get the ball on the close ones and it equals dangerous.

[Larz]

Put Dalton on the jets, are we a super bowl team?

[Jetster]

1 minute ago, Larz said:

Put Dalton on the jets, are we a super bowl team?

In the running.