AFC after 2 weeks

[Fibonacci]

So far I am impressed with Steelers only. I see Jets matching up well against the rest. 

Pats, Broncos come right after Steelers. 

My third group consists of Bengas, Texans, Chiefs. 

 

How do you see it?

[Jetdawgg]

Looks about right after two weeks

[Jetster]

4 minutes ago, Fibonacci said:

So far I am impressed with Steelers only. I see Jets matching up well against the rest. 

Pats, Broncos come right after Steelers. 

My third group consists of Bengas, Texans, Chiefs. 

 

How do you see it?

Steelers benefitted from getting to see those WR bunches Cincy was using with an Olineman out there & got to see the route trees they were using with AJ Green against us. Plus they play very well at home. Coaches film helps, strange stuff happens in the 1st week. Look how bad the Cards played & how they played this week. 

I don't think there are many adjustments the Bengals could make in a 2nd meeting with us, but there are a lot of adjustments the Jets could make with planning on both sides of the ball. I wouldn't bet on AJ Green going 12-180 & a TD either. 

It's not a sprint it's a marathon , Jets aren't close to a finished product yet, a lot of room for improvement. 

[Jetsfan80]

Many NFL coaches will tell you they don't really know what they have with their roster until October or so, so it's hard to lean heavily on the first 2 weeks of the season.

However, we know that this is a QB-driven league, which really puts talented teams like the Broncos (who also just lost Von Miller for 3 weeks), Texans, and even the Chiefs at a disadvantage.  Their QB's have fairly well known deficiencies, and that's not improving any time soon. 

Obviously we know our QB has his shortcomings too, but at worst, that means we have a shot at beating teams like that.  Steelers and Patriots will be the class of the AFC as always because of QB play, and the Chargers should be at minimum a WC contender as well.  Despite our supposedly tough schedule, it's not hard to see us being in the mix at the end of the season once again.  Especially if we win this crucial AFC game against KC this week. 

[Beerfish]

We helped pitt beat cincy.  Dalton had happy feet in that game after we laid the beat down on him the week before.  The jets shoulda woulda coulda beat ciny in week 1

[Big Blocker]

The one takeaway I have after only two weeks is until proven otherwise the Steelers look great.

[K_O_Brien]

Early days obviously but I suspect the Steelers, Pats and Broncos will have enough to win their respective divisions. Probably the Texans in the south. 

The Bengals, Ravens, Jets, Chiefs and Raiders to duke it out for the two wild card spots. We have already lost to the Bengals. We can not really afford another loss to the Chiefs. 

 

[Integrity28]

31 minutes ago, Fibonacci said:

So far I am impressed with Steelers only. I see Jets matching up well against the rest. 

Pats, Broncos come right after Steelers. 

My third group consists of Bengas, Texans, Chiefs. 

 

How do you see it?

 

29 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said:

Looks about right after two weeks

One team I expected way more from is Jacksonville. They looked ready to take the next step, instead they've taken several steps backwards.

[RutgersJetFan]

I'll keep it to just our division. My take on the first couple weeks is that the Jets are 1 game back of the Patriots. This is because the Jets are 1-1, but the Pats are 2-0.

If the Jets win and the Pats lose next weekend, they will both be 2-1. There are some other scenarios that I'm working on as well but I haven't done all the math yet.

[rex-n-effect]

6 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said:

Early days obviously but I suspect the Steelers, Pats and Broncos will have enough to win their respective divisions. Probably the Texans in the south. 

The Bengals, Ravens, Jets, Chiefs and Raiders to duke it out for the two wild card spots. We have already lost to the Bengals. We can not really afford another loss to the Chiefs. 

Disagree on a couple teams. I don't see the Ravens getting close to the playoffs. I get that everybody has them penciled in as a great team but they looked just as bad IMO this season as they did last season. Plus they have to compete with the Steelers and Bengals and that is probably 3-4 losses right there. The Raiders are a team on the rise but always seem to manage to find a way to screw it up like a west coast Jets. Plus they also play against KC and DEN and probably rack up 3-4 losses there as well. At least we only have NE to compete with in our division.

Steelers, Broncos, Texans and probably the Patriots take the divisions. I see us competing with the Bengals, Chiefs and maybe the Raiders. At least one of those spots will definitely be CIN/KC which means unless we scoop the divsion away from NE (unlikely but not impossible) then we are really competing for one spot with KC/CIN and OAK. We can get in without winning next week but it would go a long way towards taking the head to head win against KC. 

[JohnnyLV]

As Bill Polian loves to say, ask me after week 5. So much up and down till then, I feel MUCH better about us than I did a couple weeks ago. 

[munchmemory]

52 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said:

Early days obviously but I suspect the Steelers, Pats and Broncos will have enough to win their respective divisions. Probably the Texans in the south. 

The Bengals, Ravens, Jets, Chiefs and Raiders to duke it out for the two wild card spots. We have already lost to the Bengals. We can not really afford another loss to the Chiefs. 

 

And there it is.  Every friggin' year we sit hoping for a wild card berth because we can't win the division.

Also, IMO, the Pats have been the most impressive team.  Lose Brady for four games and they don't miss a beat with Garoppolo. I'm telling ya, if Belicheat and company get that rookie QB to play well and win Thursday night?  That will be fukkin unreal coaching.

[JiFtheOracle]

5 undefeated teams with the Pats and Steelers looking like the teams to beat.  Go Figure.  So new and exciting!!!!!!!!!!!

The Broncos, Ravens and Texans are not good Football teams. 

The Bengals are so pedestrian it's not even funny.  The Jets let an easy win go out the door week 1 and it might be one that bites them in the ass later down the road.

But really, does any of this matter?  The AFC belongs to the Patriots.  Everyone is just competing to lose to them in the AFC Championship game. 

[Tinstar]

The only reason the Pats are undefeated is because they haven't played the Jets or Bills yet . Pittsburg can't cover and can't pass block so we will beat them up .

[Jetsfan80]

13 minutes ago, JiF said:

But really, does any of this matter?  The AFC belongs to the Patriots.  Everyone is just competing to lose to them in the AFC Championship game. 

Eventually age needs to catch up with Tom Brady.  Not that it matters, since they can win with their 3rd string QB and no Gronk.  But still.  Maybe "Ewing Theory" will come into play.

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said:

I'll keep it to just our division. My take on the first couple weeks is that the Jets are 1 game back of the Patriots. This is because the Jets are 1-1, but the Pats are 2-0.

If the Jets win and the Pats lose next weekend, they will both be 2-1. There are some other scenarios that I'm working on as well but I haven't done all the math yet.

Both team are 3-1 when they meet.  I got that by taking your numbers and made the rest up. 

[Jetsfan80]

I also think the Steelers can very easily knock off the Pats in the playoffs should they meet.

[kdels62]

The Jets have a good matchup against the Pats, bad against the steelers. I think the jets can hang with any team in the AFC.

[Jetsfan80]

4 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

The Jets have a good matchup against the Pats, bad against the steelers. I think the jets can hang with any team in the AFC.

Only hope I have against Pittsburgh is the fact that our DL are all giants.  You need big men to take down Ben.  If our front 7 can reach him that game (and hopefully some of our secondary issues are cleaned up by then), we can contain their offense a bit.

Darron Lee will struggle that game, however.  Our Tiny LB will get swatted by Ben and Le'Veon like a flea.  He also probably won't be very effective if placed on TE duty.  After all, Jesse James is 6-7. 

 

[rex-n-effect]

21 minutes ago, munchmemory said:

And there it is.  Every friggin' year we sit hoping for a wild card berth because we can't win the division.

Also, IMO, the Pats have been the most impressive team.  Lose Brady for four games and they don't miss a beat with Garoppolo. I'm telling ya, if Belicheat and company get that rookie QB to play well and win Thursday night?  That will be fukkin unreal coaching.

Wut?

The Cardinals basically beat themselves that first game and NE barely beat a terrible Miami team. The defense looked like trash the second half and put up less than 100 yards passing the second half of the game. Sure, there's something to be said if Brissett plays well Thursday but that dodgy defense isn't going to magically improve the second Brady returns. I'm not saying NE is not a good team but they have been far less impressive than PIT. 

[jdeacon]

With our secondary, playing in Heinz field i pencil that in for a L every day of the week. We may be able to stay competitive taking advantage of a weaker defense they roll out but that offense will be too much for us to handle.

That is why it is so important for us to win against KC and Seattle. We need to go 3-1 to continue to compete for a playoff spot.

[Jetsfan80]

3 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said:

Wut?

The Cardinals basically beat themselves that first game and NE barely beat a terrible Miami team. The defense looked like trash the second half and put up less than 100 yards passing the second half of the game. Sure, there's something to be said if Brissett plays well Thursday but that dodgy defense isn't going to magically improve the second Brady returns. I'm not saying NE is not a good team but they have been far less impressive than PIT. 

Be honest.  If you had been told that, in addition to Brady, the Pats would be without Gronk both contests and would also be down to their 3rd string QB by the middle of their 2nd game.....would ANYONE have said the Pats would be 2-0?  That's why they're impressive, even if AZ and Miami played like sh*t.

The overwhelming majority of JN posters felt AZ would win in a walk, and many had Miami as an "upset pick" in Week 2. 

[bostonmajet]

1 minute ago, rex-n-effect said:

Wut?

The Cardinals basically beat themselves that first game and NE barely beat a terrible Miami team. The defense looked like trash the second half and put up less than 100 yards passing the second half of the game. Sure, there's something to be said if Brissett plays well Thursday but that dodgy defense isn't going to magically improve the second Brady returns. I'm not saying NE is not a good team but they have been far less impressive than PIT. 

Sorry, but NE was creaming Miami until their #2 QB left the game. Even with their #3 (and no Gronk) they were still able to march down field a few times. Defense played Prevent for most of the second half. Now Miami may be terrible, but lets be fair. 

[kdels62]

Can't take anything from the Pats, the first win was exactly why Belichick gets so much love - he gameplanned flawlessly and set his team up well enough so that they could win on 1 big mistake. 

The dolphins are just bad. Like really bad.

[Beerfish]

1 hour ago, Big Blocker said:

The one takeaway I have after only two weeks is until proven otherwise the Steelers look great.

Their oline and deangleo willimas look really good as does their D, Ben roths has looked worse than expected so far if you ask me.

 

I don;t know what it is but I just don't like Tomlin.

[SAR I]

1 hour ago, Fibonacci said:

So far I am impressed with Steelers only. I see Jets matching up well against the rest. 

Pats, Broncos come right after Steelers. 

My third group consists of Bengas, Texans, Chiefs.

How do you see it?

The loss to the Bengals really hurts, our margin for error on a theoretical 10 win wildcard is razor-thin.

The good news is that we play almost all of the wildcard competitors from here-in based on our second place schedule.

The bad news is that we need to beat them all and win our winnable home games in order to get to 10 wins and stand a reasonable chance on tiebreakers.

Translation:  We are in the playoffs right now, we have to go 3-0 at KC, home against Seattle, and at Pittsburgh.  And if you assume we cannot do that, then we have to sweep the Bills and Dolphins and split with the Patriots going 5-1 in the division as well as beat the Ravens, Browns, and Colts. 

Basically, we either need to take out the Chiefs and Steelers ourselves or we need to go 7-1 in the remaining AFC games after that to get to 10 wins and the right conference tiebreakers.

SAR I

[Jetster]

Wow, again here we go with the seers in these threads. Seriously, the Pats just lost there QB for a couple of weeks & could EASILY lose to the Texans Thursday Night. Did any of you watch that game yesterday? Miami was GOD AWFUL in the 1st half, stumbling, bumbling, FUMBLING. 

The Cards came out the same way in the opener with Palmer playing like he took a qualude before the game, missing receivers badly. Sometimes it's not WHO YOU PLAY but WHEN YOU PLAY THEM. The 1st time I ever see Tannyhill actually play a good 1st half it will be a 1st. The Fins run defense was absolutely putrid letting Blount get the edge wide NUMEROUS TIMES. I mean seriously how often are teams successful running stretch plays at the edges? Very few times. 

If the Jets can keep the Pats defense on the field they can tire them out. Chris Long is like 31 years old. You guys are already burying the Bengals because they lost a tight game IN PITTSBURGH? That game could have went either way at the end of the 3rd quarter. 

2 games have been played & a lot of the top teams ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE, they're not miraculously going to get much better. I look at the Jets incorporating these young LBs into the mix & maybe even work in Burress when the schedule gets a little easier, we haven't even seen Jordan Jenkins or Robbie Anderson yet. J.Marshall looks like a pretty talented confident man who'll get much better as he's slipping into this system & understands his role. 

The only thing difficult for the Jets is this ridiculous gauntlet of a schedule! I mean look at the Patriots, sure they had to start in Arizona, a team that obviously wasn't ready, and then they get 3 home games in a row, 2 of them DIVISION GAMES.

If the Jets just walk the walk & don't talk they'll be fine. Every time I hear any chatter about HOW GREAT THIS DEFENSE CAN BE they spit the bit. I actually think Revis matches up quite well with Maclin. I also think our 2nd, 3rd, and 4th WRs really match up well with KCs secondary after Peters. Our Oline has the beef to wear down the KC Dline. 

Can't Wait!

[RutgersJetFan]

27 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Both team are 3-1 when they meet.  I got that by taking your numbers and made the rest up. 

Nailed it.

[Jetsfan80]

3 minutes ago, Jetster said:

Wow, again here we go with the seers in these threads. Seriously, the Pats just lost there QB for a couple of weeks & could EASILY lose to the Texans Thursday Night. Did any of you watch that game yesterday? Miami was GOD AWFUL in the 1st half, stumbling, bumbling, FUMBLING. 

 

They lost Brady for 4 weeks and everyone said 2-2 at best.  Does it really matter who their QB is anymore at this point?  Whoever they send in will just do exactly what it takes to win. 

Then some slapd*ck franchise(s) will come along and pay Garoppolo and Brisette to be their "future".  Heard from Matt Cassel lately?  Yeah, thought so.

[PatsFanTX]

5 undefeated teams with the Pats and Steelers looking like the teams to beat.  Go Figure.  So new and exciting!!!!!!!!!!!

The Broncos, Ravens and Texans are not good Football teams. 

The Bengals are so pedestrian it's not even funny.  The Jets let an easy win go out the door week 1 and it might be one that bites them in the ass later down the road.

But really, does any of this matter?  The AFC belongs to the Patriots.  Everyone is just competing to lose to them in the AFC Championship game. 

Steelers / Pats for the AFCCG in Foxboro.

What a great game that will be.

[PatsFanTX]

The only reason the Pats are undefeated is because they haven't played the Jets or Bills yet . Pittsburg can't cover and can't pass block so we will beat them up .

What????

Other than the Pats, the AFCE is a combined 1-5.

Pats have no competition whatsoever in the division.

[Dcat]

1 minute ago, PatsFanTX said:

 

 

What????

 

Other than the Pats, the AFCE is a combined 1-5.

 

Pats have no competition whatsoever in the division.

and you returned here for what reason? To repeat the same trolling monotony that you have been doing for the last, what is it// 10 years?  Really, I could go back half a decade and more and find the same stupid posts from you.  Not only are you predictable and boring...  but you bring nothing new to the table.  

Sorry TX, but this place is better off without you.  You suck.

[Integrity28]

51 minutes ago, munchmemory said:

And there it is.  Every friggin' year we sit hoping for a wild card berth because we can't win the division.

Also, IMO, the Pats have been the most impressive team.  Lose Brady for four games and they don't miss a beat with Garoppolo. I'm telling ya, if Belicheat and company get that rookie QB to play well and win Thursday night?  That will be fukkin unreal coaching.

This whole situation is making me sick to my stomache... I don't often tether myself to QBs in the rookie class during all the pre-draft buzz, but this year Dak and Brissett were two I sort of "mocked" to us, using picks in rounds 1-3 on corner, pass rush and OL. I figured a QB in this year's draft is being drafted to back up Petty, but also, just in case Petty doesn't pan out. 

The year Garrapolo came out, I wanted him or Tom Savage. If 3/4 of these guys end up being good... ugh. Vomit.

 

[Integrity28]

18 minutes ago, SAR I said:

The loss to the Bengals really hurts, our margin for error on a theoretical 10 win wildcard is razor-thin.

The good news is that we play almost all of the wildcard competitors from here-in based on our second place schedule.

The bad news is that we need to beat them all and win our winnable home games in order to get to 10 wins and stand a reasonable chance on tiebreakers.

Translation:  We are in the playoffs right now, we have to go 3-0 at KC, home against Seattle, and at Pittsburgh.  And if you assume we cannot do that, then we have to sweep the Bills and Dolphins and split with the Patriots going 5-1 in the division as well as beat the Ravens, Browns, and Colts. 

Basically, we either need to take out the Chiefs and Steelers ourselves or we need to go 7-1 in the remaining AFC games after that to get to 10 wins and the right conference tiebreakers.

SAR I

Agreed.

But, that's how it should be every year, given that we share a division with a 12-14 win club. We should be looking at the season like we have to get to 13, to either steal the division from them if they only get 12, or ensure we're a wildcard.

All idealistic, I know, but that's the framework for what our annual "bar-setting" should be. 

Should be.

[munchmemory]

7 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

This whole situation is making me sick to my stomache... I don't often tether myself to QBs in the rookie class during all the pre-draft buzz, but this year Dak and Brissett were two I sort of "mocked" to us, using picks in rounds 1-3 on corner, pass rush and OL. I figured a QB in this year's draft is being drafted to back up Petty, but also, just in case Petty doesn't pan out. 

The year Garrapolo came out, I wanted him or Tom Savage. If 3/4 of these guys end up being good... ugh. Vomit.

 

It's just maddening watching what goes on in NE. If Garoppolo winds up being the second coming of Brady?  I'll join you for an extended period of purging.  Projectile.

Kudos to you for flagging Garoppolo.  I had never heard of the kid.