Paradis Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Quote Austin Seferian-Jenkins - TE - Free Agent Buccaneers waived TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins. Yes, he'd be a reclamation project, but the upside is Jimmy Grahamish and I feel like this roster is a good place to rehab a guy like ASJ. We've got some characters here that are strong leaders and have overcome issues like these. And dammit we need a TE like him to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Paradis said: Yes, he'd be a reclamation project, but the upside is Jimmy Grahamish and I feel like this roster is a good place to rehab a guy like ASJ. We've got some characters here that are strong leaders and have overcome issues like these. And dammit we need a TE like him to develop. Saw the news online a few minutes ago and just knew you would be all over this one. Based on the state of the TE position on our roster, no harm in bringing him in for a visit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Austin Seferian-Jenkins - TE - Free Agent Buccaneers waived TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins. Cameron Brate and Luke Stocker will be the Bucs' tight ends the rest of the way. The 38th overall pick in the 2014 draft, Seferian-Jenkins was known to have drinking problems at the University of Washington and was popped for DUI on Friday morning, leading to his release. Some team will undoubtedly give the 24-year-old another chance, but Seferian-Jenkins will eventually face a suspension from the NFL. ASJ's loss is a blow to Jameis Winston's fantasy outlook. Seferian-Jenkins at least had potential, and the Bucs have gotten very little from their complementary pass catchers behind Mike Evans. Related: Buccaneers Source: Rick Stroud on Twitter Sep 23 - 2:08 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Just popped a DUI and has massively underachieved. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 No room for troubled youth on this team. Who needs a tight end anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 He needs rehab not another team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, NYJ37/12 said: He needs rehab not another team Belichick will pick him up & win a Super Bowl running a 3 TE offense & Edelman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Lol, I remember everyone saying Ebron, Jenkins, and Amaro were the best top 3 TE class we ever saw back in the 2014 draft, 2 cut the other has done nothing what a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Rotoworld blurbs all summer made it sound like he's a malcontent. Yes, he fills a need. No, don't think we need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Can we send Richardson to pick him up at the airport if a 12 year old rides in the back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 Disappointed so many here seem to be above working with a young talented player. It's not like we're loaded at the position, nor is he expensive - and we're certainly have the veteran presence to take on a guy and mentor him thru this. Frankly no ones offered any good reason not to beyond "he can be someone else's problem"... Didn't even know he was a problem. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Just now, Paradis said: Disappointed so many here seem to be above working with a young talented player. It's not like we're loaded at the position, nor is he expensive - and we're certainly have the veteran presence to take on a guy and mentor him thru this. Frankly no ones offered any good reason not to beyond "he can be someone else's problem"... Didn't even know he was a problem. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He's been arrested multiple times for drinking and driving. Lets put aside the idea of working with talented player and instead he should put aside football for a year or 2 and work out his issues with alcohol instead. We really don't need a reclamation project, we have one with Sheldon already that we are focusing on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 We just cut a young talented TE with a drinking problem. He wasn't even looking at a suspension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Sign this drunken beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, Paradis said: Disappointed so many here seem to be above working with a young talented player. It's not like we're loaded at the position, nor is he expensive - and we're certainly have the veteran presence to take on a guy and mentor him thru this. Frankly no ones offered any good reason not to beyond "he can be someone else's problem"... Didn't even know he was a problem. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk People are leery justifiably so. The player had some very good games in the NFL but his on field performance has been slightly disappointing. now we get to the character issues, rarely is it as simple as; oh we give him a shot and just dump him if it doesn't work out. You get suspensions, team mates getting upset, some of these guys just are not worth it. Now, i am with you on this one because we have a big need and the guy has talent but I no longer begrude anyone not wanting a poor character player. they can really hurt your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 It's fair to weigh risk and reward like some of you are -- however I think there's some discordance here. It's NOT like ASJ is stumbling into film study, nor is he in the NFL's substance abuse program (yet?)... so spare me the Manziel/Blackmon caliber narratives. Does he have a problem? Yes. Should it be taken seriously? Hell yes... but he is far from the trainwreck I'm seeing painted here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 No one here was pulling the moral high-road card when Braylon Edwards was hauling two defenders into the endzone in Foxborough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Paradis said: No one here was pulling the moral high-road card when Braylon Edwards was hauling two defenders into the endzone in Foxborough Oh my God dude... pump the brakes on the sanctimonious outrage because people aren't falling all over themselves to agree with you that we need to sign a TE that couldn't crack the lineup in Tampa because he's been at-odds with the coaches ON TOP of his drinking problems. It's not like any of us have control over signing him. Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Paradis said: Yes, he'd be a reclamation project, but the upside is Jimmy Grahamish and I feel like this roster is a good place to rehab a guy like ASJ. We've got some characters here that are strong leaders and have overcome issues like these. And dammit we need a TE like him to develop. You definitely have a type, I'll give you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, Paradis said: No one here was pulling the moral high-road card when Braylon Edwards was hauling two defenders into the endzone in Foxborough To quote Marlowe: "That was in another country. And the wench is dead." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Oh my God dude... pump the brakes on the sanctimonious outrage because people aren't falling all over themselves to agree with you that we need to sign a TE that couldn't crack the lineup in Tampa because he's been at-odds with the coaches ON TOP of his drinking problems. It's not like any of us have control over signing him. Sheesh. You're the only one shouting. Make love, not war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 11 minutes ago, Paradis said: You're the only one shouting. Make love, not war. LOL love it when fans ridicule a player for a drinking problem meanwhile its ok for them to suck the suds and hug a vodka bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 18 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: LOL love it when fans ridicule a player for a drinking problem meanwhile its ok for them to suck the suds and hug a vodka bottle. and every other commercial during a game is a beer commercial..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 56 minutes ago, flgreen said: We just cut a young talented TE with a drinking problem. He wasn't even looking at a suspension Bingo. If the Jets were willing to deal with a problematic underachiever at TE, Amaro would still be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 2 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Just popped a DUI and has massively underachieved. Why? Potential. Would he cost anything more than a 53rd ranked player would be paid? Not really. Don't see the risk. If he bombs, cut him. No harm done. Gives him another chance. Maybe he shines? Who knows. Im all for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 17 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Bingo. If the Jets were willing to deal with a problematic underachiever at TE, Amaro would still be here. We gave Amaro every chance to prove himself. Couldn't catch a pass, couldn't block. No need for him to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 2 hours ago, BigRy56 said: No room for troubled youth on this team. Who needs a tight end anyway Isn't Q Enunwa our glorified TE...hahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Paradis said: Disappointed so many here seem to be above working with a young talented player. It's not like we're loaded at the position, nor is he expensive - and we're certainly have the veteran presence to take on a guy and mentor him thru this. Frankly no ones offered any good reason not to beyond "he can be someone else's problem"... Didn't even know he was a problem. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 minute ago, j4jets said: Potential. Would he cost anything more than a 53rd ranked player would be paid? Not really. Don't see the risk. If he bombs, cut him. No harm done. Gives him another chance. Maybe he shines? Who knows. Im all for him. He is the bucs version of amaro, except without personal restraint. pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, whodeawhodat said: He is the bucs version of amaro, except without personal restraint. pass ok, Im convinced now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 He is the bucs version of amaro, except without personal restraint. pass What a terrible analogy. I'd love to see you thoroughly explain the comparison beyond a shreddies caliber explanation. They're both TEs. The similarities end there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 hard pass, the circus is upstate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Paradis said: It's fair to weigh risk and reward like some of you are -- however I think there's some discordance here. It's NOT like ASJ is stumbling into film study, nor is he in the NFL's substance abuse program (yet?)... so spare me the Manziel/Blackmon caliber narratives. Does he have a problem? Yes. Should it be taken seriously? Hell yes... but he is far from the trainwreck I'm seeing painted here. Wrong. ASJ is a total mess. He has alienated much of the coaching staff in Tampa with his attitude, some teammates, and knew he was under the microscope and on his last chance. Yet he was still out drinking to the wee hours of the morning before Friday's practice, the most important of the week. He committed multiple violations of a previous DUI order. These are not things that a quality employee does. What exactly do you consider a trainwreck? Does he need to commit domestic violence? Kill someone behind the wheel? Hell no to this jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Risk vs Reward situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 55 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Bingo. If the Jets were willing to deal with a problematic underachiever at TE, Amaro would still be here. did amaro also have a drinking problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, batman10023 said: did amaro also have a drinking problem? I was wondering the same thing this is the first I ever heard of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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