drdetroit Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Bowles doesn't know jack sh*t he's a moron look at how this team lacks preparation each week look at the decisions he's making with timeouts.clock management and 4th downs. Bowles benched Kerley and he's having a decent season so far. Bowles is a MORON repeat after me Bowles is a MORON 0.0 reasons to keep starting Fitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Would Geno have beaten any of these teams? No. Yes Fitz has not been great but the holes on our OL and inconsistent Marshall and injured Decker and little to no run game the last three weeks had doomed the offense. Now to the real culprit. Our secondary is killing this team. Teams are beating us deep and then screening us to death. Can't have a pass rush when opposing QBs are taking 3 step drops and shredding us. Geno's not gonna help the D get off the field when they are playing soft coverage when we are desperate for a stop. That said, any knowledgable Jets fans knew that this was a very likely outcome after looking at our schedule. Yes we needed to pull off a couple of upsets to give us a chance to make the playoffs. Those are unlikely now so what do we do? Geno has no future with the team, Petty is hurt, and Hack will guarantee us the second pick in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Sperm Edwards said: I was referring to before Petty was injured. The rest of your post I agree with 100%. He's going to try to leave Fitz in there until Petty is back. The only thing that could make this even messier for the future is putting Geno in and having the team win 3 of the next 4 games and there's pressure to leave him in because the team is winning. Well if you're afraid of that horrible scenario, then don't have him on the roster in the first place. These guys are checkers players. Not sure if you're being sarcastic but winning 3 out of 4 is not a "messy situation". If they're actually not playing him to protect their egos or fear him winning games then they should all be immediately escorted out of Floram Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, drdetroit said: Been saying it all along Fitz is starting all 16 games Bowles is lost Ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Well Geno can throw farther than 10 yards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 17 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: Really? Fitz has been the most glaring problem on the Jets. Inaccurate, under performing and weak armed. Total that up its an inordinate amount of picks and you have a disaster for a QB. He got his $12MM though. The Jets cannot develop any of the younger QB's due to Fitz and his fat contract, no matter how bad he plays. The Jets would buy the Brooklyn Bridge I'm concerned here in early Oct with 2016 only. We're not the only team playing erratic football and the season's not over yet. We had a dry spell last year and then won five in a row. Right now it doesn't look good and if a Qb change would light a fire then ok. You have to do what you have to do. And no Fitz hasn't been the key problem but he also hasn't been able to get enough out of this offense. Of course if his receivers are dropping balls on key downs that's not his fault. It's too late to change the players we are stuck with them. If there is a rebuild it will be during the off season not now. And 12 mil for a starting Qb isn't a lot. If you want a better Qb you will have to pay a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 It doesn't matter who we put in at QB if the play calling and coaching doesn't radically improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, kdels62 said: Yep. Have Geno play against the cardinals, he will suck and then Petty can close out the season after Geno gets benched against the Ravens and then cut. That works. Regardless they have to make a switch this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, ARodJetsFan said: I'd like to see Bryce Petty get the nod when he's healthy. Play him the rest of the year and see what we have when the dust settles. I would be all for that. The problem is he isn't physically ready. We don't need to Chad Pennington him just yet. Let him get ready, he will get a shot. That said, they have to make a change now. So it makes sense to start Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 59 minutes ago, Fibonacci said: What will Geno give you? A few wins here and there? Tank properly. Put in Petty and if he isn't healthy put in hackenberg. These are precious snaps. Don't waste them on Fitz or Geno. Let's tank properly at least once. Petty isn't ready to start this week. They need to make a change NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: I'm concerned here in early Oct with 2016 only. We're not the only team playing erratic football and the season's not over yet. We had a dry spell last year and then won five in a row. Right now it doesn't look good and if a Qb change would light a fire then ok. You have to do what you have to do. And no Fitz hasn't been the key problem but he also hasn't been able to get enough out of this offense. Of course if his receivers are dropping balls on key downs that's not his fault. It's too late to change the players we are stuck with them. If there is a rebuild it will be during the off season not now. When a QB is his age and he is over paid, that is a major issue. Any of the other QB's could provide the type of play Fitz has provided for less money. His pay could have translated to another CB or another LB more familiar with a 4/3 scheme. That was a terrible transaction FO the Jets to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Maxman said: That works. Regardless they have to make a switch this week. It's not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said: It doesn't matter who we put in at QB if the play calling and coaching doesn't radically improve. It does so matter Fitzpatrick is a bum loser and the team is quitting on him all except the 3 rah rah guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Continuing to play Fitz is proof Todd Bowles hates us. Every single one of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 54 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: What's the point? Unless they're switching to a healthy Petty or Hack there is literally zero to gain from Geno starting. Nothing. Red Zone play calling is more the problem than red Zone execution. 53 minutes ago, peebag said: Because teams have got the book on Fitztragic...and it's not going to get any better marching him back out there. Time to mix it up. I think this is the case. I really believe our red zone problems have more to do with bend but don't break. That is what we are seeing from defenses week in, week out. That is the book on Fitzy right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Just now, Jetdawgg said: When a QB is his age and he is over paid, that is a major issue. Any of the other QB's could provide the type of play Fitz has provided for less money. His pay could have translated to another CB or another LB more familiar with a 4/3 scheme. That was a terrible transaction FO the Jets to make. Bowles plays Geno he plays well Macc looks like a fool Woody realizes he wasted $12 million both are gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 48 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: The Jets should have never signed Fitz for this season. Three young QB's do not get an opportunity to develop. What other franchise does this? Jets could get this type of QB play for less than $12MM Totally agree. Fitz wanted a big contract. He got a nice one year deal and it is time to move on. It was time to move on but at least they only derailed on season with this silly mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: It's not happening. Well it will be just another bad decision that Bowles made this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Bowles plays Geno he plays well Macc looks like a fool Woody realizes he wasted $12 million both are gone Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 16 minutes ago, Pac said: Not sure if you're being sarcastic but winning 3 out of 4 is not a "messy situation". If they're actually not playing him to protect their egos or fear him winning games then they should all be immediately escorted out of Floram Park. It's only messy for people who want Geno gone. Him playing well means he stays. And they deep down don't want that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Maxman said: Totally agree. Fitz wanted a big contract. He got a nice one year deal and it is time to move on. It was time to move on but at least they only derailed on season with this silly mistake. True that bro. We do have some promising WR's now too. We just happen to start a QB that cannot make the throws they really need to perform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Just now, Jetdawgg said: True that bro. We do have some promising WR's now too. We just happen to start a QB that cannot make the throws they really need to perform He looked weak armed on the sh*tty shuffle passes today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Actually I'm more bothered about the horrendous Defence then Fitz. No Geno we need to play Petty the moment he's healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: True that bro. We do have some promising WR's now too. We just happen to start a QB that cannot make the throws they really need to perform @T0mShane said last year that Devin Smith is wasted if Fitz is the QB. I know he is hurt but it is a good point. The Steelers opened the game with a long TD to a burner. Not a high probability play, but that is never going to be an option with Fitz as the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: He looked weak armed on the sh*tty shuffle passes today. I said in the PS that the shuttle pass should be ditched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkajet01 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Fitz can't stretch defense with his arm! Geno can't play. When he's ready it's pettySent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Hows 1-4 looking now guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 24 minutes ago, greenwave81 said: My only explanation, and after seeing the coaching decisions today I have some doubts, is that Petty is injured and they do not want to start Hack. If Bowles had made a man's decision and made Petty #2 before the 4th PS game after out shadowing Geno all pre-season, we wouldn't be having this dilemma right now. Bowles knows Fitz and Geno isn't the long term answer, thinks Fitz is better than Geno, and has no other choice at this point save start Hack and what is the point in that UNLESS the team is firing on all other cylinders, which it ain't. I knew what I needed to know when they didn't put Petty on IR WRT their opinion of Geno...they're protecting Hack, and Petty is taking longer than they thought to get back from his injury IMO. I'm not sure. I think Petty shoulder is probably better but they are holding the "injured" label on him so Hack gets more reps in practice. Kind of managing 4 QBs unfortunately and taking advantage of a Petty injury. Because once Petty comes back, if they don't cut Geno, Hack will barely get anymore snaps basically for the rest of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 bowles is going down with fitz and kacy cuz that's who he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Maxman said: It is officially Geno Smith time. Let's try to win some games. Fitz isn't getting it done. The red zone problems are cause and effect. Teams are playing bend but don't break against us. So Fitz puts up good stats but can't close out drives. Next. Careful what you wish for. Bunch of vultures roaming the board attacking every pro-Geno post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Larz said: bowles is going down with fitz and kacy cuz that's who he is He is not going to play for a high draft pick. He will pull a Rex and do everything in his power to go 8-8. That is trouble for this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, Larz said: bowles is going down with fitz and kacy cuz that's who he is I think he is smarter than that. And I believe (hope) that Bowles and this team improves. But if not, at least we will get the final answer sooner as opposed to dragging it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Good luck know with that...genocide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 The only right choice is to start Geno and set the table for Petty. It's possible any QB we have can look good later on in the schedule so getting to Petty first is paramount to the future of the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 43 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Geno Smith plays well and wins games Macc looks like a fool for signing Fitz for $12 million and maybe Woody wakes up and fires them all. I don't give a crap if he looks like a fool. I give a crap that if Geno Smith plays well then Petty sits on the bench for another month longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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