FidelioJet Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, Snell41 said: Benching Fitz will help beyond exponential means. It may not translate to wins for certain, but it allows us to evaluate Petty and Hackenburg now, instead of having to go into next season with no idea. Can you imagine we go 4-12 without having seen Hack or Petty, and DON'T draft a 1st round QB because we're counting on one of them to come through!?!? It would be harmful to Hack to have him play at this point and Petty is hurt. Bringing in Geno is not helpful to this team at this point. I agree, if Petty was healthy he should start... But Bowles is going to stick with Fitz as long as he possibly can...Pulling Fitz, his hand picked starter, signals to the league and team that you've given up on the season...I don't think he's ready to concede that yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 They should cut Geno and just make Petty the # 2 if they are sticking with Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, FidelioJet said: It would be harmful to Hack to have him play at this point and Petty is hurt. Bringing in Geno is not helpful to this team at this point. I agree, if Petty was healthy he should start... But Bowles is going to stick with Fitz as long as he possibly can...Pulling Fitz, his hand picked starter, signals to the league and team that you've given up on the season...I don't think he's ready to concede that yet. Why did we choose Hack so high if he wasn't ready. Just because he was Maccs pick doesn't make it right. We needed a player in the 2nd round who would be helping this team here and now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: It would be harmful to Hack to have him play at this point and Petty is hurt. Bringing in Geno is not helpful to this team at this point. I agree, if Petty was healthy he should start... But Bowles is going to stick with Fitz as long as he possibly can...Pulling Fitz, his hand picked starter, signals to the league and team that you've given up on the season...I don't think he's ready to concede that yet. Harmful to Hack? Stop it. Just stop. We are not a team with the luxury to wait and see if our broken mentally fragile crap suddenly gets tough in 3 years. You wanna see if Hack has mental toughness and ability to make it in the NFL? You throw him out there right now. Some people cower and hide when the building is on fire, some people become heroes. I have no concern for the psyche of Hackenburg. If he burns in the fire, see ya later time to draft a new guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: We are 1-4 we are playing bad football this team is in total disarray unprepared every Sunday. Get a clue dont make your lack of of football knowledge and your love for Fitzpatrick turn this personal. Get a life. It is clear that as between you and me, the person who is in need of a life would be you. Lack of football knowledge - give me an example or STFU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, Snell41 said: Harmful to Hack? Stop it. Just stop. We are not a team with the luxury to wait and see if our broken mentally fragile crap suddenly gets tough in 3 years. You wanna see if Hack has mental toughness and ability to make it in the NFL? You throw him out there right now. Some people cower and hide when the building is on fire, some people become heroes. I have no concern for the psyche of Hackenburg. If he buns in the fire, see ya later time to draft a new guy. Snell41 we are grooming Hack because we have groomed so many others................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, Big Blocker said: It is clear that as between you and me, the person who is in need of a life would be you. Lack of football knowledge - give me an example or STFU. Please go away or put me on ignore. Todd Bowles is enough moron to deal with as a Jets fan. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I can't wait until Fitz is no longer part of this organization. He will always be a stain in Jets history. A reminder that our front office is as incompetent as ever. $12,000,000... wow. Such a waste of a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Mike135 said: I can't wait until Fitz is no longer part of this organization. He will always be a stain in Jets history. A reminder that our front office is as incompetent as ever. $12,000,000... wow. Such a waste of a season. Agree a big huge sh*t stain those who bought his jersey can cry all the way to Goodwill and I hope they clog their bathroom sink shaving off the Fitz beard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Please go away or put me on ignore. Todd Bowles is enough moron to deal with as a Jets fan. Thanks Rough day for Joe. You'll get over it eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, Big Blocker said: Rough day for Joe. You'll get over it eventually. Rough season dealing with a moron of a head coach terrible coordinators and the worst QB in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I can't wait until we get rid of Smith Fans. A real stain on our fanbase.I hate being reminded by them that a lot of people who call themselves Jet fans really aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 14 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Why did we choose Hack so high if he wasn't ready. Just because he was Maccs pick doesn't make it right. We needed a player in the 2nd round who would be helping this team here and now I am by no means a Mac excuse maker. He is as much to blame for this mess as anyone else. - but that's not Hack's fault. He's simply not ready to play and throwing him into the fire because Mac drafted him too early is biting your nose to spite your face. Mac has been given a pass by the fans and media for the most part - not me. He had a ton of money and made fixing the secondary his top priority - not looking good. Revis - not looking good Fitz - not looking good Mo - Not looking good Lee - too early to tell, but seems like he'll be a solid player, but I haven't seen anything to make me think he can be a difference maker D. Smith - not looking good Mauldin - not looking good Yes, Williams seems to be panning out but that was a no brainer Right now we're getting more out of Idzik's drafts - yet he was run out of town after two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Big Blocker said: I can't wait until we get rid of Smith Fans. A real stain on our fanbase.I hate being reminded by them that a lot of people who call themselves Jet fans really aren't. I cant wait until Fitzpatrick is as far away from this team as he can be and all his supporters hang their heads in shame realizing that he really does suck and that they were dead wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said: What would be the point of doing it? Holding players accountable for poor play. Fitz has done nothing to merit being untouchable regardless of what's on the bench. It easier to change QB as opposed to the entire D and coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 How bout that vaunted Defense we got though ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, FloridaJetsFan said: How bout that vaunted Defense we got though ... Hell yes Marcus Williams the best CB in the NFL Does anyone wonder why all these great players wind up on the Jets always the hidden secrets no other teams knew about. Catapano,Jalin Marshall, Devin Smith, Marcus Williams etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Big Blocker said: I can't wait until we get rid of Smith Fans. A real stain on our fanbase.I hate being reminded by them that a lot of people who call themselves Jet fans really aren't. How does Smith keep coming 12 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I am by no means a Mac excuse maker. He is as much to blame for this mess as anyone else. - but that's not Hack's fault. He's simply not ready to play and throwing him into the fire because Mac drafted him too early is biting your nose to spite your face. Mac has been given a pass by the fans and media for the most part - not me. He had a ton of money and made fixing the secondary his top priority - not looking good. Revis - not looking good Fitz - not looking good Mo - Not looking good Lee - too early to tell, but seems like he'll be a solid player, but I haven't seen anything to make me think he can be a difference maker D. Smith - not looking good Mauldin - not looking good Yes, Williams seems to be panning out but that was a no brainer Right now we're getting more out of Idzik's drafts - yet he was run out of town after two years. Well, you're doing so no matter what then. Because with the absence of knowing what Hack can do, and the assumption that Petty is not a franchise QB (let's be realistic here), we should be 100% looking to draft our franchise starter next year. In that case whoever we draft becomes the likely immediate starter, and Hack never gets a shot anyway. So essentially we've either wasted the pick, or we throw him out there too early. I'm sorry, today's NFL does not allow you to wait years on kids on the bench. It's just not the way it works anymore. Either Hack shows he's ready or he doesn't get a chance. The fact we're not even dressing him is an indictment of him as a player, and our FO for using a 2nd rounder on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colgateman Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 This will just lead us to Kizer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, Snell41 said: How does Smith keep coming Well, you're doing so no matter what then. Because with the absence of knowing what Hack can do, and the assumption that Petty is not a franchise QB (let's be realistic here), we should be 100% looking to draft our franchise starter next year. In that case whoever we draft becomes the likely immediate starter, and Hack never gets a shot anyway. So essentially we've either wasted the pick, or we throw him out there too early. I'm sorry, today's NFL does not allow you to wait years on kids on the bench. It's just not the way it works anymore. Either Hack shows he's ready or he doesn't get a chance. The fact we're not even dressing him is an indictment of him as a player, and our FO for using a 2nd rounder on him. Another wasted 2 nd round pick is the way I see things we arent grooming any QB's in the NY Jets grooming school hidden in the basement of MetLife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Snell41 said: How does Smith keep coming Well, you're doing so no matter what then. Because with the absence of knowing what Hack can do, and the assumption that Petty is not a franchise QB (let's be realistic here), we should be 100% looking to draft our franchise starter next year. In that case whoever we draft becomes the likely immediate starter, and Hack never gets a shot anyway. So essentially we've either wasted the pick, or we throw him out there too early. I'm sorry, today's NFL does not allow you to wait years on kids on the bench. It's just not the way it works anymore. Either Hack shows he's ready or he doesn't get a chance. The fact we're not even dressing him is an indictment of him as a player, and our FO for using a 2nd rounder on him. I couldn't agree more with this point. But it's done...Compounding an error with another one makes no sense. He was a developmental pick - 4th round talent that was taken in the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, FidelioJet said: I couldn't agree more with this point. But it's done...Compounding an error with another one makes no sense. He was a developmental pick - 4th round talent that was taken in the 2nd round. So far he has developed into nothing or isn't the NY Jets QB grooming school done with him yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Augustiniak said: petty isn't even practicing yet. I know. He better get a move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 42 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I couldn't agree more with this point. But it's done...Compounding an error with another one makes no sense. He was a developmental pick - 4th round talent that was taken in the 2nd round. Some people find their strength when they have no choice but to do so. We are not in a position to let Hack find his strength on his time. We have no alternatives. None. We need to be looking for a young franchise QB of the future that will step in day one of next year. If we have NOTHING to see of whether or not Hack is that guy, then we need to draft a guy next year, in which case Hack's shot is gone because if we draft a QB first round he's not going to be sitting on the bench for Hack. So right now Hack is in a do or die situation whether he's ready or not, so he best start getting himself ready. If this FO does not draft a 1st round QB next year because they want to wait for Hack to show if he was worth it or not then you can be certain the billboards and airplanes will be up and running again. And rightfully so, quite frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Snell41 said: Harmful to Hack? Stop it. Just stop. We are not a team with the luxury to wait and see if our broken mentally fragile crap suddenly gets tough in 3 years. You wanna see if Hack has mental toughness and ability to make it in the NFL? You throw him out there right now. Some people cower and hide when the building is on fire, some people become heroes. I have no concern for the psyche of Hackenburg. If he burns in the fire, see ya later time to draft a new guy. It's not about mental toughness, it's strictly about fixing his mechanics which takes time and repetition after repetition. Throwing him into the fire now will only cement bad footwork and mechanics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 3 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: 1-4 is a death sentence. The Jets have an opportunity here and like clockwork, as they always do, are blowing it. You have to play Petty and Hackenberg to see who is worth keeping around next year. There is no downside to this. You either determine you have a quarterback for the future or you wind up with a top 3 draft pick. This is where this franchise has gone wrong for decades. Chasing mediocrity, not knowing when to throw the towel in for the greater good. Can't wait to see where 2-3 extra W's lands us. Maybe yet another first round cornerback. Because it's not like we've drafted nothing but corners and DL for the past ten years. Yay. Also worth noting, this is the 3rd straight regime that is going make the same pivotal mistake. Tannenbaum/Mangini made it in 2007 and Idzik/Rex made it in 2014. Sometimes a season comes along where you're bad and you just have to let that happen for the greater good. This is a concept that will be forever lost on Woody, meaning we can only pray that it's something the men in charge will grasp one day. Make no mistake about it, we are going 5-11 or 6-10 when we have a clear opportunity to go 1-15 or 2-14. That is a missed opportunity, period. Because Jets. And that has made the difference big time for this franchise for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Big Blocker said: I can't wait until we get rid of Smith Fans. A real stain on our fanbase.I hate being reminded by them that a lot of people who call themselves Jet fans really aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Maybe Bowles and fitz will wind up on another team together next year. Both with diminished roles no doubt.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 hours ago, joewilly12 said: I cant wait until Fitzpatrick is as far away from this team as he can be and all his supporters hang their heads in shame realizing that he really does suck and that they were dead wrong. 2 hours ago, joewilly12 said: I cant wait until Fitzpatrick is as far away from this team as he can be and all his supporters hang their heads in shame realizing that he really does suck and that they were dead wrong. Let's see who is actually left after both of these two scrubs leave finally next yr ha.. I just hope they actually let this two losers go without defending them.. Some on here still go nuts if you dare tell the truth about how bad Sanchez is/was ? Ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 hours ago, FidelioJet said: I am by no means a Mac excuse maker. He is as much to blame for this mess as anyone else. - but that's not Hack's fault. He's simply not ready to play and throwing him into the fire because Mac drafted him too early is biting your nose to spite your face. Mac has been given a pass by the fans and media for the most part - not me. He had a ton of money and made fixing the secondary his top priority - not looking good. Revis - not looking good Fitz - not looking good Mo - Not looking good Lee - too early to tell, but seems like he'll be a solid player, but I haven't seen anything to make me think he can be a difference maker D. Smith - not looking good Mauldin - not looking good Yes, Williams seems to be panning out but that was a no brainer Right now we're getting more out of Idzik's drafts - yet he was run out of town after two years. Read today that Mauldin isn't getting on the field enough, because they're not playing as much 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 44 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Maybe Bowles and fitz will wind up on another team together next year. Both with diminished roles no doubt.. Do any NFL teams have dog parks they can both pickup dog doo,maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Told you guys we're starting Fitz all 16 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 48 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Read today that Mauldin isn't getting on the field enough, because they're not playing as much 3-4. That's because Steve McLendon is versatile and dynamic!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, JiF said: That's because Steve McLendon is versatile and dynamic!!!! Hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 4 hours ago, Ex-Rex said: Fitz won't be benched until at least the bye week, because Bowles needs to "keep up appearances" that he is doing everything he can to win games. Putting Petty in there now would be raising the white flag of surrender. Petty will get in there when the Jets are 3-7 at the bye. This was never going to be a playoff season so lets not lose our minds here. Yes Bowles is in over his head and I would fire him for sure, but I would start with "offensive guru" Gailey who has completely neglected the run game to show how brilliant he is in the passing game. Well Chan, we have seen it and a "genius" you ain't. You can shuffle pass your a$$ right out of town for all I care. Sooner the better. Gailey can't run!! Teams are stacking the box against the Jets!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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