drdetroit Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Why do u believe so passionately there is no way he could ever improve? Even with Decker out Marshall, Enunwa, Anderson and Peake is a way better group of receivers than what he had in '13-'14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 It's not his physical skills. It's his mental acumen and lack of leadership. Pay the guy the 500 and smooth it over. Instead, he opens himself to getting punched in the face. He's on Twitter and Instagram saying stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 It is a moot point. He has no future here. The only reason he is on the team is because of his reasonable salary and experience. Even if he plays great we are not resigning him so there is no benefit to playing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I don't know if I am passionately against Geno but I do know that a QB that misses the Saturday night meeting, and gets punched in the face by a teammate with no one coming to his defense, is not mature enough to handle being the top dog. I don't see Geno Smith as being a leader of men. Throw in the behind the back fumble against Tenn, Alot of "Chuck it and F*ck it throws (See the first Buffalo game in 2014) and you have a career backup IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Sadly this organization has decided to go with an old journeyman gypsy bum QB instead of seeing what others can do to help this team win games. Fitzpatrick has failed us miserably this year and any other team in the NFL would have benched him then again he wouldn't be in the NFL if it werent for the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, shawn306 said: I don't see Geno Smith as being a leader of men. Yep. Look Ryan Fitzpatrick may suck as a QB. But he is a leader of men. Brandon Marshall, at 1-3, is saying "I will go down with this guy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Sadly this organization has decided to go with an old journeyman gypsy bum QB instead of seeing what others can do to help this team win games. Fitzpatrick has failed us miserably this year and any other team in the NFL would have benched him then again he wouldn't be in the NFL if it werent for the Jets. What is the point of benching him now? You want to create a player revolt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, shawn306 said: I don't know if I am passionately against Geno but I do know that a QB that misses the Saturday night meeting, and gets punched in the face by a teammate with no one coming to his defense, is not mature enough to handle being the top dog. I don't see Geno Smith as being a leader of men. Throw in the behind the back fumble against Tenn, Alot of "Chuck it and F*ck it throws (See the first Buffalo game in 2014) and you have a career backup IMHO. What leadership skills has Ryan Fitzpatrick shown us? He held this team hostage this off season posting pics of playing with a Rubik's cube. Go look at highlight blunder reel most recently 6 INTs and many more in his 12 sh*tty years in the NFL Geno was assaulted in the Jets locker room not his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: What is the point of benching him now? You want to create a player revolt? F*** THE PLAYERS since when do the players run the team??????? If they are fire Macc and Bowles now!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Yep. Look Ryan Fitzpatrick may suck as a QB. But he is a leader of men. Brandon Marshall, at 1-3, is saying "I will go down with this guy." LOL the same Brandon Marshall who was all Geno Smith that same flip flopper guy LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: F*** THE PLAYERS since when do the players run the team??????? If they are fire Macc and Bowles now!!!!!!!!!!!! What does Macc have to do with the players being upset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Right wrong or indifferent Geno has no future on this team, therefore no reason to be playing. I'm expecting Petty to start against BAL.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 8 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: What does Macc have to do with the players being upset? I dont know I just figured clean house Bowles needs to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: LOL the same Brandon Marshall who was all Geno Smith that same flip flopper guy LOL It would seem but he hasn't flopped this time. And he has plenty of ammunition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: It would seem but he hasn't flopped this time. And he has plenty of ammunition Hes a nut case head case always has been his entire career his words are worthless shut up and play the damn game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Page 1 of a Geno Thread . 18 Joe Willy posts. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 7 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Yep. Look Ryan Fitzpatrick may suck as a QB. But he is a leader of men. Brandon Marshall, at 1-3, is saying "I will go down with this guy." Makes me feel soooo much better about this turd of a season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: I dont know I just figured clean house Macc needs to stay and hire his own head coach Bowles needs to go Bowles was his head coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, Jet_Engine1 said: Page 1 of a Geno Thread . 18 Joe Willy posts. Weird. Football message board involved in a conversation on the topic Not weird Instead of posting that why not join in on the conversation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, drdetroit said: Bowles was his head coach Debatable at the very least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, drdetroit said: Makes me feel soooo much better about this turd of a season WOuld you prefer Joe Montana or Jeff George? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: What leadership skills has Ryan Fitzpatrick shown us? He held this team hostage this off season posting pics of playing with a Rubik's cube. Go look at highlight blunder reel most recently 6 INTs and many more in his 12 sh*tty years in the NFL Geno was assaulted in the Jets locker room not his fault. Didn't Enkempali have some other legal criminal issues besides the incident with Geno? I find it laughable that that's the reason Fitzpatrick who has been the nfl's 2nd or worst starting qb should still be starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, drdetroit said: Bowles was his head coach True Jets hire Bowles as head coach after snaring Maccagnan as GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 8 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: What leadership skills has Ryan Fitzpatrick shown us? He held this team hostage this off season posting pics of playing with a Rubik's cube. Go look at highlight blunder reel most recently 6 INTs and many more in his 12 sh*tty years in the NFL Geno was assaulted in the Jets locker room not his fault. Risking life and limb trying to gain extra yards is pretty good to me. Shows he wants to win. It was indirectly Geno's fault. A leader would never have let it get to that stage of fervor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: True Jets hire Bowles as head coach after snaring Maccagnan as GM "Officially" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Risking life and limb trying to gain extra yards is pretty good to me. Shows he wants to win. It was indirectly Geno's fault. A leader would never have let it get to that stage of fervor. Running for his life tossing 6 INTs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1) He did not markedly improve from year one to year two of his playing career as far as the things that plague him, poor decisions. 2) In year 3 he looked exactly like years one and two, looked good for parts of the Oakland game and then at the most crucial times his brain fell out on the floor. 3) In year 4 he looked good for the very start of camp and then got worse as camp went on. 4 years and no real improvement on a guy who throws a nice ball, has some good drives but in the end falls apart. Four years is enough to know. Weaponszz has zero to do with Genos problems which are almost always self created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, drdetroit said: I find it laughable that that's the reason Fitzpatrick who has been the nfl's 2nd or worst starting qb should still be starting Strangely, the media disagrees. And that does matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: "Officially" Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: WOuld you prefer Joe Montana or Jeff George? Oh so Fitz is Montana? Lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, drdetroit said: Oh so Fitz is Montana? Lolz MANY think he is.............sheesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, drdetroit said: Oh so Fitz is Montana? Lolz Not gifted physically, a leader, semi intelligent on the field (Montana was clearly smarter) Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Not gifted physically, a leader, semi intelligent on the field (Montana was clearly smarter) Yes Are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: Are you serious? Can you prove me wrong on any of those? JUST THOSE 3. Not Super Bowls, not playoffs, not success. JUST THOSE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Can you prove me wrong on any of those? JUST THOSE 3. Not Super Bowls, not playoffs, not success. JUST THOSE 3 Ryan Fitzpatrick comparision to Joe Montana Im out of this conversation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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