kevinc855 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Tonight we will see what kind of HC Todd Bowles truly is. With a national audience and the Jets season on the line, we will see how Todd Bowles has prepared this team. Will they have an innovative offensive plan? Will the Defense scheme work well and bring pressure against Palmer? Will the Jets come out playing fast and hitting hard, with a sense of urgency. All these questions I laid out lay in coaching. I have defended Todd through this 1-4 start and am no way calling for him to be fired if we lose tonight. However I will learn a lot by the man by the way HIS TEAM plays tonight. If there is the lazy old Jets acting like they are at a scrimmage, with weird timeouts, drops, no sense of urgency and questionable play calling then consider my faith broken in Todd. As one of the most loyal Jet fans on this board who consistently seeks the positive I'm interested in seeing how they play tonight. I'm a believer but I'm also a realist, and need to see something from Todd tonight to continue to defend him and this team. We will see....................Lets go Jets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I don't want to see any more "play it safe" BS either ... no more kicking FG's right on the goal line, punting on 4th and short when trailing late. Grow a pair and get aggressive. The season needs it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 10 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Tonight we will see what kind of HC Todd Bowles truly is. With a national audience and the Jets season on the line, we will see how Todd Bowles has prepared this team. Will they have an innovative offensive plan? Will the Defense scheme work well and bring pressure against Palmer? Will the Jets come out playing fast and hitting hard, with a sense of urgency. All these questions I laid out lay in coaching. I have defended Todd through this 1-4 start and am no way calling for him to be fired if we lose tonight. However I will learn a lot by the man by the way HIS TEAM plays tonight. If there is the lazy old Jets acting like they are at a scrimmage, with weird timeouts, drops, no sense of urgency and questionable play calling then consider my faith broken in Todd. As one of the most loyal Jet fans on this board who consistently seeks the positive I'm interested in seeing how they play tonight. I'm a believer but I'm also a realist, and need to see something from Todd tonight to continue to defend him and this team. We will see....................Lets go Jets! This is what I'll be looking for the most. They seem to be very lethargic and lack urgency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Just now, FidelioJet said: This is what I'll be looking for the most. They seem to be very lethargic and lack urgency. Really? They've played better in the first half than the second half this season. Under Rex it was the opposite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Basically the Jets have to prove they can win in the NFL this season. And Arizona has the same test. Both teams are beatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Really? They've played better in the first half than the second half this season. Under Rex it was the opposite What does Rex have to do with it? And who cares what half they are good in. It seems to me they've been playing soft, lacking hustle, not finishing plays. Do you not see that? It's certainly possible me being jaded has skewed my view point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Arizona has a good coach coming off a mini bye (played last Thursday) playing at home. I don't like our chances but anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 1-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 45 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Tonight we will see what kind of HC Todd Bowles truly is. With a national audience and the Jets season on the line, we will see how Todd Bowles has prepared this team. Will they have an innovative offensive plan? Will the Defense scheme work well and bring pressure against Palmer? Will the Jets come out playing fast and hitting hard, with a sense of urgency. All these questions I laid out lay in coaching. I have defended Todd through this 1-4 start and am no way calling for him to be fired if we lose tonight. However I will learn a lot by the man by the way HIS TEAM plays tonight. If there is the lazy old Jets acting like they are at a scrimmage, with weird timeouts, drops, no sense of urgency and questionable play calling then consider my faith broken in Todd. As one of the most loyal Jet fans on this board who consistently seeks the positive I'm interested in seeing how they play tonight. I'm a believer but I'm also a realist, and need to see something from Todd tonight to continue to defend him and this team. We will see....................Lets go Jets! +1 This is a team Bowles knows well having been the DC in 2014..He should know and exploit any weakness that he knows may exist and the D should have a good day against a pocket guy like Palmer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 The test on defense will be, with Harris out (our defensive QB with the headset), who does Bowles turn to and how does that work out? Oh offense,well, we all know Todd leave that up to his OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 If the Jets don't get to Palmer who is basically a statue and is turning the ball over alot when pressured then they are dead. Get back to Pounding the Rock and not throwing it all over the lot. 30+ carries to Forte tonight is a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Big Bowels test tonight, I thought this was the annual JetNation hot chili cook off competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I just hope it's not a colonoscopy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, shawn306 said: If the Jets don't get to Palmer who is basically a statue and is turning the ball over alot when pressured then they are dead. Get back to Pounding the Rock and not throwing it all over the lot. 30+ carries to Forte tonight is a must. I think Todd is scared to Blitz with how poorly his secondary has performed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: I just hope it's not a colonoscopy. It should be. That way our very own turnover polyp (aka Ryan Fitzpolyp) can be removed and sent to the laboratory for analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: I think Todd is scared to Blitz with how poorly his secondary has performed I totally agree. That is why the pressure has to come from the big boys up front. And they really do need to step up their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I used to think that Bowles' sideways grimace on the sidelines during games was just his game day poker face. Now I realize it's his clueless face. Stupid timeouts, not going for two against the Bills when you're up 36-24 with a lot of time left in the 4q, not going for it on 4th and inches late in the game against the Steelers, etc. I realize every new HC needs a learning curve, but he has to speed up his or Fans will be calling for his head. What better team to do it against than his old team. If he can't come up with a competent game plan against them, he should be fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I actually thought that Seattle and Pitt were the "show me what you got, Bowles" games. And we saw the results. I'm not big on moral victories, but considering the competition I would have been remotely satisfied with games that came down to the wire win or lose. By now, as seen in Pittsburgh this team is planning off season vacations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 If he comes out trying to man up vs. the deep vertical speed, I'm going to lose my mind. No team likes the long ball more than the Cardinals, if he can find a way to make Palmer have to think an extra second longer where to go with the ball while not losing coverage, our DL should be able to get home. Palmer is a statue. Then all you have to worry about is David Johnson running wild. And a ball hawking secondary but I wont get into that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 41 minutes ago, August said: Arizona has a good coach coming off a mini bye (played last Thursday) playing at home. I don't like our chances but anything is possible. I get the unhappiness with Bowles right now, but it's not all on him just like it's not all on Fitz. Fact is the Cards may have had some hangover from losing the Champ Game last year. But they've got a real running game, and Larry is still a great player, with Brown getting chunks of yards. They've got a good NT. They are playing at home. Arians is a good HC. I don't see the Jets winning this one, no matter how bad they need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 26 minutes ago, shawn306 said: If the Jets don't get to Palmer who is basically a statue and is turning the ball over alot when pressured then they are dead. Get back to Pounding the Rock and not throwing it all over the lot. 30+ carries to Forte tonight is a must. I kind of disagree. Sure, if the run is successful, keep running it. But I don't think the Jets will be able to run the ball effectively against Arizona. They will truly have to have a meticulously crafted game plan going up against this defense. They will have to throw the 'kitchen sink' at it, if you ask me. That includes taking shots deep, going over the middle, screens, spreading out the defense with 4 WR formations, getting Enunwa in motion, and of course, running the ball (which has to also include giving Forte opportunities to break it outside and fined lanes outside the tackles, not just running between the tackles for 2-3 yrds). That's not an easy task, but I think it's what they will need in order to put enough points on the board to get a win. As far as the defense. Well, it's the same problems we have been needing to fix all season. The Jets need to limit the big plays deep. It seems every game they get beat deep at least once for a TD. They have to limit the underneath passing game. It seems like every teams' 'go to' play is some sort of throw underneath to a TE, RB or WR on a slant. They have been good against the run, and that is simply b/c of the stout D-line with, essentially, a NT and 3 D-tackles. But you can't ignore D.Johnson as he has been shredding defenses all year. Going up against Palmer, if the Jets secondary can step it up and force him to hold on to the ball a bit longer, the D-line should be able to collapse the pocket and get to him, or at worst, push the pocket and make him uncomfortable all game. That doesn't mean Bowles will get away without blitzing. You HAVE to blitz in this league and Bowles needs to start coming up with some better blitzing schemes that generate pressure. I say Bowles because I have completely lost faith in K.Rodgers and it's time for Bowles to start getting more involved in this defense. Huge task. A lot to ask of a struggling team but a great way to get out of this funk for the Jets is to go out and beat a good team on the road in a national televised game. The level of urgency needs to be really high. The Jets need to look at this as a must win, a do or die game, even though its not. Of course, I think the Jets can win this game, but if they lose this game in awful fashion there is potential at 1-5 for this team to implode. If they show up and play well but lose, it may be enough confidence for them to go on a run as the schedule eases up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, Big Blocker said: I get the unhappiness with Bowles right now, but it's not all on him just like it's not all on Fitz. Fact is the Cards may have had some hangover from losing the Champ Game last year. But they've got a real running game, and Larry is still a great player, with Brown getting chunks of yards. They've got a good NT. They are playing at home. Arians is a good HC. I don't see the Jets winning this one, no matter how bad they need it. And the Panthers are 1-5 is that a Bowl loss hangover?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 13 minutes ago, JiF said: If he comes out trying to man up vs. the deep vertical speed, I'm going to lose my mind. No team likes the long ball more than the Cardinals, if he can find away to make Palmer have to think an extra second longer where to go with the ball while not losing coverage, our DL should be able to get home. Palmer is a statue. Then all you have to worry about is David Johnson running will. And a ball hawking secondary but I wont get into that. Running the ball will lead to quick play action slants and swing routes. Nothing we have been able to cover. The deep cover will break down but hopefully Palmer not able to extend the play with his legs will afford us a couple sacks. Doesn't really matter if the offense can't put up more than 20 points. A defensive or special team Score would help but we all know that's not very likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I want to be positive on this one tonight but..... Peterson will be on Marshall tonight so Fitz best not stare down his receivers. I don't know if he's capable of that. He seems to get his pre snap reads and turns a blind eye to everything else that's going on. Peterson may neutralize Marshall which means Enunwa and the rookies need a big night. Forte has not been good. I'd like to see more of Powell sharing the run game. The D-Line needs to get to Palmer. They should have opportunity tonight considering Palmer's mobility but don't think that Ariens isn't prepared for pressure and will have alot of quick passes and play action early to set up the deep ball later. Secondary....I don't know what to say other than they need to get their sh!T together. Fitzgerald may have a big night. I think one of the biggest problems Bowles has had is 2nd half adjustments. One of the main reasons the Jets stink in the 2nd half of each game IMO is his failure to do this. Our opponents have made 2nd half moves that eat the Jets up. Bowles continues to fail in this area. There's so much that needs to be fixed on this team. Cards are desperate for a win. They are home. Jets traditionally don't do well on the West coast. If they pull this one out I may not make it to work tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Rangers9 said: Basically the Jets have to prove they can win in the NFL this season. And Arizona has the same test. Both teams are beatable. I will be watching Rangers-Sharks / Indians - Blue Jays, F the loser Jets, we all know what is going to happen tonight. I think the Rangers could be pretty good this year. I was impressed with their first 2 games so far even in the loss to STL, they outplayed one of the NHL's elite on their rink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 5 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Running the ball will lead to quick play action slants and swing routes. Nothing we have been able to cover. The deep cover will break down but hopefully Palmer not able to extend the play with his legs will afford us a couple sacks. Doesn't really matter if the offense can't put up more than 20 points. A defensive or special team Score would help but we all know that's not very likely. Oh yeah, they've got to score at least 24pts tonight to win, probably more. Fitz is going to have to be sharp tonight. They're going to need to control the clock and not turn the ball over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 minute ago, JiF said: Oh yeah, they've got to score at least 24pts tonight to win, probably more. Fitz is going to have to be sharp tonight. They're going to need to control the clock and not turn the ball over. Damn, asking kind a lot ain't you sweet one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: I will be watching Rangers-Sharks / Indians - Blue Jays, F the loser Jets, we all know what is going to happen tonight. I think the Rangers could be pretty good this year. I was impressed with their first 2 games so far even in the loss to STL, they outplayed one of the NHL's elite on their rink. I watched parts of those games but I'm more into football and baseball right now. I think the Jets win tonight and I predict you will be watching the Jets. Come on, you know you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: I watched parts of those games but I'm more into football and baseball right now. I think the Jets win tonight and I predict you will be watching the Jets. Come on, you know you will. LOL you know me well....Yeah I enjoy reruns of the move "Titanic" which is what we will see tonight when the SS Bowltite sinks in the desert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 9 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Damn, asking kind a lot ain't you sweet one? Well, yeah. That's why we're going to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: LOL you know me well....Yeah I enjoy reruns of the move "Titanic" which is what we will see tonight when the SS Bowltite sinks in the desert. I don't know you bro, but I know myself. And I'm a glutton for punishment. Over the years a lot of punishment. But I think we can compete tonight. Maybe our players are tired of mediocrity. It's been a very inconsistent season for a lot of teams. One week they play great and the next week they suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Rangers9 said: I don't know you bro, but I know myself. And I'm a glutton for punishment. Over the years a lot of punishment. But I think we can compete tonight. Maybe our players are tired of meritocracy. It's been a very inconsistent season for a lot of teams. One week they play great and the next week they suck. When was the week we played great? The last time was 1998 I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Just now, ASH1962 said: When was the week we played great? The last time was 1998 I think Not us the entire NFL. One week a team looks awesome and the next week they get blown out. Take a look at the scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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