JustInFudge Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 So much fun this offseason. SO MUCH!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, JOJOTOWNSELL said: I'm so glad we drafted guys who "fit the triangle" Ntilikina > Smith/Monk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 minute ago, JiF said: So much fun this offseason. SO MUCH!!! Another 5+ years of Carmelo!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SMC Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Another 5+ years of Carmelo!!! At least this means Derek Rose won't be re-signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Just now, Matt39 said: Another 5+ years of Carmelo!!! The Knicks must protect his pristine legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Just now, JiF said: The Knicks must protect his pristine legacy. hands down the dumbest organization in all of sports. fans included Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SMC Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Matt39 said: hands down the dumbest organization in all of sports. fans included Jets: Hold my beer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Just now, SMC said: Jets: Hold my beer Give the Jets fanbase this- there's a tint of self awareness. With the Knicks there's none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RutgersJetFan Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 100% chance Isiah is buying some sort of diamond plated kazoo for Dolan right now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, SMC said: Who would have guessed running an offense through Carmeolo wouldnt work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I keep having this weird feeling passing on Dennis Smith is gonna be the black mark of death for this franchise the next 10 years. I dunno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 57 minutes ago, SMC said: At least this means Derek Rose won't be re-signed Knicks: hold my beer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, HessStation said: I keep having this weird feeling passing on Dennis Smith is gonna be the black mark of death for this franchise the next 10 years. I dunno More of this Dennis Smith stuff. Again, Ntilikina is younger, taller and longer than Smith and has 2 good ACLs. His upside is higher than Smith. He's a good prospect. He's a pass-first PG as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 hour ago, SMC said: You mean 0.01% chance! Unfortunately the majority of scenarios comprising said .01% chance entail Masai coming on board with a nWo t-shirt on under his suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Melo has about 6 seasons till he gets to 30,000 points. So we'll reconvene then to figure out where the Knicks are going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, SMC said: More of this Dennis Smith stuff. Again, Ntilikina is younger, taller and longer than Smith and has 2 good ACLs. His upside is higher than Smith. He's a good prospect. He's a pass-first PG as well. I know. I just keep thinking though we're gonna have to wait 2-3 for a for a good point guard who can probably make an all star roster 3-4 times in his career while Smith could be the next Tim Hardaway. the only downside on Smith is the knee, which I get. If the Knicks took him it'd be top of mind conversation I'll admit that but he's (Smith) also what could be the best player in the entire draft if he stays healthy. Frank, to me doesn't appear to have that kind of upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 minute ago, SMC said: More of this Dennis Smith stuff. Again, Ntilikina is younger, taller and longer than Smith and has 2 good ACLs. His upside is higher than Smith. He's a good prospect. He's a pass-first PG as well. I don't know what any of these words are worth in numbers. There just wasn't any reason to go mystery box there. There were tons of projectable college players. The next six guys off the board were selected by at least one of Arturo's models. http://basketballnumbers.com/2017/06/20/2017-nba-draft-ratings/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 To clarify a little more, Frank looks like he could be in the bottom half of top 10-15 Pg's in the NBA eventually. if Smith stays healthy he could be a first team all NBA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: I don't know what any of these words are worth in numbers. There just wasn't any reason to go mystery box there. There were tons of projectable college players. The next six guys off the board were selected by at least one of Arturo's models. http://basketballnumbers.com/2017/06/20/2017-nba-draft-ratings/ Wilson & Gaines have done well on Euros and Arturo has no numbers on Ntilikina. Plus, I'd put my money on the son of Rwanda refugees than a AAU diva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, HessStation said: To clarify a little more, Frank looks like he could be in the bottom half of top 10-15 Pg's in the NBA eventually. if Smith stays healthy he could be a first team all NBA We'll see, but I believe you're selling Ntilikina way short. He has two-way PG ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, SMC said: Wilson & Gaines have done well on Euros and Arturo has no numbers on Ntilikina. Plus, I'd put my money on the son of Rwanda refugees than a AAU diva Does it really matter at this point? The new regime might not want Frank anyways...actually likely considering his age and the renewed commitment to Carmelo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, SMC said: We'll see, but I believe you're selling Ntilikina way short. He has two-way PG ability. I don't disagree on that. His potential is just that though. Two-way Solid PG, he's not transcending sh*t though. Smith has the game and explosiveness to do those things Frank's not gonna do. It's a bit of a flashy vs. steady. I'm not slam dunking that they should have taken Smith. I just have a bad feeling it could turn into a what if if he stays healthy. To me, if you're at 8, and still have a chance to take "what could end up being" the best player in the entire draft, you take the risk. Frank looks like he'll be a steady, reliable PG in a few years but I can't for the life of me ever see him on an all NBA, he's just not explosive enough from what I see or understand through reading up. I agree frank gonna probably be a steady, solid PG....what I don't ageee on is the upside vs a player like Smith has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 The Carmelo Body Count is so impressive 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The Carmelo Body Count is so impressive I think it's a little reminiscent of when the Yanks resigned arod...although they at least got one championship out of it....but when they decided to resign melo they sealed their fate then. All else is white noise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 minute ago, HessStation said: I think it's a little reminiscent of when the Yanks resigned arod...although they at least got one championship out of it....but when they decided to resign melo they sealed their fate then. All else is white noise This is true. Way more bearable in baseball due to it being an individual sport. With Melo on the roster its impossible to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The Carmelo Body Count is so impressive You got to tip your hat. He's brought the entire franchise to it's knees and homey still holds them hostage. It is, as you said, impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 13 minutes ago, HessStation said: I don't disagree on that. His potential is just that though. Two-way Solid PG, he's not transcending sh*t though. Smith has the game and explosiveness to do those things Frank's not gonna do. It's a bit of a flashy vs. steady. I'm not slam dunking that they should have taken Smith. I just have a bad feeling it could turn into a what if if he stays healthy. To me, if you're at 8, and still have a chance to take "what could end up being" the best player in the entire draft, you take the risk. Frank looks like he'll be a steady, reliable PG in a few years but I can't for the life of me ever see him on an all NBA, he's just not explosive enough from what I see or understand through reading up. I agree frank gonna probably be a steady, solid PG....what I don't ageee on is the upside vs a player like Smith has. I'm enjoying your take on a player you've never seen play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, HessStation said: I think it's a little reminiscent of when the Yanks resigned arod...although they at least got one championship out of it....but when they decided to resign melo they sealed their fate then. All else is white noise #stayme7o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, JiF said: I'm enjoying your take on a player you've never seen play. I'm just giving my opinion on what I understand through what I've read and heard. I have a decent idea on what Smith brings and going off the scouting reports on Frank. Watching a little bit of video on Frank seems to fit the profile. Waiting 2-3 yrs for a steady solid PG could be tough if Smith turns into the next Derrick Rose pre injury during that time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 2 hours ago, SMC said: I know you're joking, but the reports are that Dolan loves KP and sees him as his cashcow for the next 15 yrs. This was more about Melo/KP vs. Phil, and Phil lost. I want you to be right. We finally have a talented young core last thing we need is Isiah trading KP for Lamarcus Aldridge or Paul George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 23 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The Carmelo Body Count is so impressive As impressive as the Garnet body count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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