SALARY CAP dept. : which Jets could be gone after this season to create cap space ? ? ?

[kelly]

How much unused salary cap space will Jets carry over for 2017 free agency?

 

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on January 19, 2017 at 7:30 AM, updated January 19, 2017 at 7:44 AM

 

 

 

The Jets are right up against the salary cap. And reinforcements aren't on the way. 

The Jets are carrying over just $371,487 in unused cap dollars for the 2017 season, per the NFLPA. In total, NFL teams carried over $293,767,117. The average carry over per team is just over $9 million. 

Here's the NFLPA's definition of club spending carryover: 

Every year, NFL clubs can elect to carry over unused cap dollars into the following league year. Think of it like rollover minutes. This chart (pictured below) reflects each teams' elected carryover amount, which would be added to the salary cap amount at the start of the league year. We'll update you on the financial flexibility each team will have in March.

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The minuscule carry over isn't much of a help for the Jets. According to OTC, they're projected to be $471,263 over the predicted team salary cap of $168 million. The team does, though, have several ways to free additional funds. 

By cutting left tackle Ryan Clady, center Nick Mangold, cornerback Darrelle Revis and linebacker David Harris, the Jets can free nearly $33 million in cap space. 

 

Keep or dump: Jets' UFAs

Which of these players should the Jets bring back?

 

The Jets can also restructure the contract of Brandon Marshall, who is set to have a $7.5 million cap hit. The entire hit is alleviated if released. on Wednesday, Marshall didn't seem open to redoing his deal. 

"People need to get away from me due $7.5," Marshall said on WFAN's Boomer and Carton Show. "Get away from my salary. That's underpaid. Any team should be happy to have me for $7.5 million."

   >  http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/01/jets_carry_over_371487_in_unused_salary_cap_space.html#incart_river_index

[kelly]

Time for Jets to put on thinking cap because space in short supply

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Say this for the New York Jets: They spent to the salary-cap limit last season.

On Wednesday, the NFL Players' Association released its figures on unused cap space for 2016, and the Jets were close to the bottom -- only $371,487, to be exact.

So much for saving for a rainy day.

In case you're wondering, the two Los Angeles teams finished with less unused space -- $113,693 for the Chargers, $304,311 for the Rams. Not surprisingly, the Browns were at the opposite end of the scale -- $50.1 million.

What does it mean?

Teams are permitted to apply their unused cap space to the following year's cap -- a carryover. In the Jets' case, it's the equivalent of breaking a 2-year-old's piggy bank and depositing the amount into a bank.Right now, the Jets face serious cap issues. The cap is projected at $168 million for the 2017 league year -- some experts say $170 million -- and the Jets are at $168.4 million, according to overthecap.com.

In other words, they have some cutting to do before March 9, when the league year begins.

The Jets have until Feb. 15 to exercise the options for Ryan Clady and Erin Henderson. If they decline, they'd save $10 million and $2.75 million, respectively. That would at least give them some breathing room before they have to make the tough decisions -- i.e. David Harris, Nick Mangold, Darrelle Revis and Brandon Marshall.

>     http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/66439/time-for-jets-to-put-on-thinking-cap-because-space-in-short-supply

[Beerfish]

I hope we pillage and burn.  It'll be sad to see a few players go but I will applaud as some are lead put of town.

[kelly]

3 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

I hope we pillage and burn.  It'll be sad to see a few players go but I will applaud as some are lead put of town.

 

[kelly]

Jets Will Carry Over Almost No Extra Salary Cap Space into 2017

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In the NFL, teams are allowed to carry over unused salary cap space into the next season. The average team will carry over $9 million extra into 2017 to add to their cap space.Unfortunately, the Jets are at the very low end. The NFLPA notes the Jets will only carry $371,487 of unused 2016 cap space into 2017. Only the Chargers and the Rams will carry less money over.

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It is a rough season when you only win 5 games, and you have spent to the cap. Lots of big money players did not perform.This isn’t to say the Jets will lack cap space. Cutting some of the big money underperforming players will open up room to operate, but they will need to spread that money around to fill a ton of holes.

One subtle criticism I might have of Mike Maccagnan is how he has spent right up to the salary cap. I understand he took over a depleted roster that was going to require a robust infusion of free agent talent two years ago, but he didn’t have to spend to the cap. It is a good idea to have some extra money in reserve so you don’t find your team caught in a dicey cap situation and/or have money available when an important player needs to be signed.

I think back to 2014, and one of my frustrations is I feel like people learned the wrong lessons in some cases. We remember some of the mistakes when it comes to players who were and weren’t signed, but the excess cap space the Jets had was used as an example of a poorly run team. There might have been problems with some of the moves the team made, but having some money is reserve was not in itself a terrible idea.

I am hoping the powers in charge of the team adjust their strategy a bit going forward and consider leaving some extra cap space around.

Part of the decision might come down to whether they feel like their jobs are on the line or whether they feel empowered to take a long-term view. I appreciate what a difficult balance this is. We are in year three of this rebuild, and there should be substantial signs of progress. At this point, it does seem like this thing is a bit behind schedule. This is also a team that has missed the Playoffs for six straight years.

One thing I do know about the NFL, however, is few things damage a franchise like when the best interests of the people in charge do not match up with the franchise’s long-term best interests. When people feel like their jobs are on the line, they sacrifice a long-term building philosophy and focus on short-term gains to save those jobs, frequently at the expense of the future.

As much as I want to see success next season, I think the worst thing that could happen to the Jets is a view that 2017 is Playoffs or bust. There needs to be a vision beyond one year, and leaving some extra money in the piggy bank might be one way this could manifest itself.

>        http://www.ganggreennation.com/2017/1/18/14319352/jets-will-carry-over-almost-no-extra-salary-cap-space-into-2017

[kelly]

" Could the Jets cut Eric Decker and Brandon Marshall ? "..

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ets' Quincy Enunwa could've had a $1.2 million raise, if only ...

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A look at what's happening around the New York Jets :

1. Money matters: This is the first year under the current collective bargaining agreement that no player on the Jets has qualified for a "proven performance escalator," a salary increase awarded to fourth-year players drafted in Rounds 3-7. They became official this week.Under the PPE, a player gets a raise in the final year of his rookie contract if he plays at least 35 percent of the offensive or defensive snaps in two of their first three seasons or has a cumulative average of 35 percent for the first three years.

In previous years, Bilal Powell (2014), Demario Davis (2015) and Brian Winters (2016) received hikes of about $1 million apiece. Now it's time for the 2014 draft picks to cash in, except no one is. That 12-player class, which includes 10 players in Rounds 3-7, has been a bust. You can thank former GM John Idzik for that.Wide receiver Quincy Enunwa came oh-so-close to qualifying, but he missed out on a $1.2 million raise due to a technicality. Even though the former sixth-round pick saw enough action over the past two seasons to qualify, he didn't get a salary bump because he's no longer on his rookie contract. Let's explain.

He was waived in 2014, spent 15 games on the practice squad and was re-signed to the 53-man roster for the final game. Technically, he's on his second contract.

That stinks for Enunwa because he played in 83 percent of the snaps in 2016 and 47 percent in 2015, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Even though he missed nearly the entire 2014 season, his cumulative average over three years still was 43 percent -- enough for the extra loot. But instead of a $1.84 million salary, he will make $615,000 in 2017.It also means he has only two accrued seasons, not three, so he won't be an unrestricted free agent until 2019. Good for the Jets, bad for Enunwa, one of their better young players.

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[nyjbuddy]

http://overthecap.com/calculator/new-york-jets/

A cool little tool that overthecap.com provides to see how cuts and restructures, etc affect the Jets salary cap.  Fun to see how much money would be saved by cutting certain players and resigning others, etc.  You can even add pending free agents.  It would be cool if they could provide an export feature so people could share changes.  Anyway, have fun trying to manage the salaries and bonuses.  Good thing there are no negotiating involved so veterans won't mind if you restructure their contracts so that they get paid a minimum deal that would never happen in the real world.

[kelly]

The NFL season is officially over. And oh my did it go out with a bang. If you're still reeling from the Patriots' dramatic 34-28 victory over the Falcons, you can find everything you need to know here. 

3 questions Jets must answer this offseason

But now it's time to turn all attention to the offseason. Which means the NFL Scouting Combine in a couple of weeks, the NFL Draft and, of course, free agency. 

With the salary cap expected to jump an extra $10-$15 million, it's shaping up to be a wild few weeks. Every team is looking to get better, and quite a few have the funds to do so.

Eighteen teams sit with at least $30 million in salary cap space. All but four have at least $15 million. 

 

Here's a look at the teams with the most salary cap space, as of Feb. 7, with a projected team cap of $168 million ($13 million increase from 2016). We will update this page weekly. Numbers courtesy of OverTheCap.com. 

1. Cleveland Browns: $97.39m
2. San Francisco 49ers: $80.89m
3. Tennessee Titans: $66.66m
4. New England Patriots: $65.22m
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $64.94m
6. Jacksonville Jaguars: $64.35m
7. Washington Redskins: $59.75m
8. Chicago Bears: $54.68m
9. Indianapolis Colts: $50.33m
10. Carolina Panthers: $49.70m
11. Oakland Raiders: $46.26m
12. Cincinnati Bengals: $44.29m
13. L.A. Rams: $40.20m
14. Detroit Lions: $35.98m
15. Pittsburgh Steelers: $35.43m
16. Denver Broncos: $33.04m
17. Arizona Cardinals: $32.73m
18. Green Bay Packers: $30.99m
19. Miami Dolphins: $29.91m
20. New Orleans Saints: $29.63m
21. Seattle Seahawks: $27.79m
22. Houston Texans: $25.79m
23. Atlanta Falcons: $24.03m
24. New York Giants: $23.68m
25. Buffalo Bills: $22.10m
26. San Diego Chargers: $20.23m
27. Minnesota Vikings: $20.06m
28. Baltimore Ravens: $15.38m
29. Philadelphia Eagles: $7.18m
30. Kansas City Chiefs: $3.49m
31. New York Jets: (-) $7.42m
32. Dallas Cowboys: (-) $11.31m
33. >   http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/02/which_nfl_teams_have_the_most_salary_cap_space.html#incart_river_index

[Tinstar]

1 hour ago, kelly said:

The NFL season is officially over. And oh my did it go out with a bang. If you're still reeling from the Patriots' dramatic 34-28 victory over the Falcons, you can find everything you need to know here. 

3 questions Jets must answer this offseason

But now it's time to turn all attention to the offseason. Which means the NFL Scouting Combine in a couple of weeks, the NFL Draft and, of course, free agency. 

With the salary cap expected to jump an extra $10-$15 million, it's shaping up to be a wild few weeks. Every team is looking to get better, and quite a few have the funds to do so.

Eighteen teams sit with at least $30 million in salary cap space. All but four have at least $15 million. 

 

Here's a look at the teams with the most salary cap space, as of Feb. 7, with a projected team cap of $168 million ($13 million increase from 2016). We will update this page weekly. Numbers courtesy of OverTheCap.com. 

1. Cleveland Browns: $97.39m
2. San Francisco 49ers: $80.89m
3. Tennessee Titans: $66.66m
4. New England Patriots: $65.22m
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $64.94m
6. Jacksonville Jaguars: $64.35m
7. Washington Redskins: $59.75m
8. Chicago Bears: $54.68m
9. Indianapolis Colts: $50.33m
10. Carolina Panthers: $49.70m
11. Oakland Raiders: $46.26m
12. Cincinnati Bengals: $44.29m
13. L.A. Rams: $40.20m
14. Detroit Lions: $35.98m
15. Pittsburgh Steelers: $35.43m
16. Denver Broncos: $33.04m
17. Arizona Cardinals: $32.73m
18. Green Bay Packers: $30.99m
19. Miami Dolphins: $29.91m
20. New Orleans Saints: $29.63m
21. Seattle Seahawks: $27.79m
22. Houston Texans: $25.79m
23. Atlanta Falcons: $24.03m
24. New York Giants: $23.68m
25. Buffalo Bills: $22.10m
26. San Diego Chargers: $20.23m
27. Minnesota Vikings: $20.06m
28. Baltimore Ravens: $15.38m
29. Philadelphia Eagles: $7.18m
30. Kansas City Chiefs: $3.49m
31. New York Jets: (-) $7.42m
32. Dallas Cowboys: (-) $11.31m
33. >   http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/02/which_nfl_teams_have_the_most_salary_cap_space.html#incart_river_index

This is truly sad , but fixable non the less .  Like someone said, Let the blood letting begin .

[joewilly12]

We won 5 games with our roster and we have the least amount cap space next to the Eagles what the hell. 

Mike Maccagnan has some work to do. 

This team is a mess in every aspect.

[Tinstar]

38 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

We won 5 games with our roster and we have the least amount cap space next to the Eagles what the hell. 

Mike Maccagnan has some work to do. 

This team is a mess in every aspect.

This team needs a QB . Nobody is or has ever mistaken Ryan Fitzpatrick for anything more than what he is, and yet with him, these players managed to win 10 games  in an NFL season .  That season, the Carolina Panthers won 15 games and made it to the SB. The very next season, they're picking top 10 and their coach is said to be on the hot seat .

[Sperm Edwards]

7 hours ago, kelly said:

The NFL season is officially over. And oh my did it go out with a bang. If you're still reeling from the Patriots' dramatic 34-28 victory over the Falcons, you can find everything you need to know here. 

3 questions Jets must answer this offseason

But now it's time to turn all attention to the offseason. Which means the NFL Scouting Combine in a couple of weeks, the NFL Draft and, of course, free agency. 

With the salary cap expected to jump an extra $10-$15 million, it's shaping up to be a wild few weeks. Every team is looking to get better, and quite a few have the funds to do so.

Eighteen teams sit with at least $30 million in salary cap space. All but four have at least $15 million. 

 

Here's a look at the teams with the most salary cap space, as of Feb. 7, with a projected team cap of $168 million ($13 million increase from 2016). We will update this page weekly. Numbers courtesy of OverTheCap.com. 

1. Cleveland Browns: $97.39m
2. San Francisco 49ers: $80.89m
3. Tennessee Titans: $66.66m
4. New England Patriots: $65.22m
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $64.94m
6. Jacksonville Jaguars: $64.35m
7. Washington Redskins: $59.75m
8. Chicago Bears: $54.68m
9. Indianapolis Colts: $50.33m
10. Carolina Panthers: $49.70m
11. Oakland Raiders: $46.26m
12. Cincinnati Bengals: $44.29m
13. L.A. Rams: $40.20m
14. Detroit Lions: $35.98m
15. Pittsburgh Steelers: $35.43m
16. Denver Broncos: $33.04m
17. Arizona Cardinals: $32.73m
18. Green Bay Packers: $30.99m
19. Miami Dolphins: $29.91m
20. New Orleans Saints: $29.63m
21. Seattle Seahawks: $27.79m
22. Houston Texans: $25.79m
23. Atlanta Falcons: $24.03m
24. New York Giants: $23.68m
25. Buffalo Bills: $22.10m
26. San Diego Chargers: $20.23m
27. Minnesota Vikings: $20.06m
28. Baltimore Ravens: $15.38m
29. Philadelphia Eagles: $7.18m
30. Kansas City Chiefs: $3.49m
31. New York Jets: (-) $7.42m
32. Dallas Cowboys: (-) $11.31m
33. >   http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/02/which_nfl_teams_have_the_most_salary_cap_space.html#incart_river_index

Wow.

[CrazyCarl40]

4 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Wow.

Trust in big Macc!! ::eyeroll::

[Dunnie]

bring back idzi.... oh wait


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[BurnleyJet]

You have to laugh it's so Bad, it's unbelievable in every area of this Team. The thing I'm currently most looking forward to is, watching the Cuts.

I'd actually hire someone to throw Revi$'s sh*t into the street.

[kelly]

9 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

You have to laugh it's so Bad, it's unbelievable in every area of this Team. The thing I'm currently most looking forward to is, watching the Cuts.

I'd actually hire someone to throw Revi$'s sh*t into the street.

 

cheers ~ ~ 

[BurnleyJet]

2 hours ago, kelly said:

 

cheers ~ ~ 

Ah the good olde Days

[thadude]

Cut: Clady, Mangold, Fitz, Harris, Gilchrist

Won't get cut but deserve it: Wilkerson, Revis, Forte

Brandon Marshall may get cut because of franchise dysfunction 

[Sperm Edwards]

21 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

Trust in big Macc!! ::eyeroll::

Seriously, though. Given all the flexibility he inherited, how is it even possible, in such a short timespan, to make such a huge mess like this? Actually it's worse than this picture even paints. What's not even shown in that list above is the additional amount spent. 

1. He spent all the way up to the generic cap limit in 2016 (within ~$300k of it, from the article).
2. He also spent above that limit in 2016 to the tune of just over $2m more, that carried over from 2015.
3. He spent even further above that limit in 2016, by tapping into 2017-2018's spending ability. He did this to the tune of some $16m, just off the top of my head ($6m for Wilkerson, $2.5m for Skrine, $2.5m for Carpenter, and $5m for Fitzpatrick).

Basically, he spent not only to the cap limit but he spent at least $18m over the basic 2016 cap limit for a 5-win season. I'm sorry, but he is quite simply an incompetent boob -- a perfect match for our Jets' plans to never reach the superbowl. 

[Sperm Edwards]

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Jan 29, 2017

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A look at what's happening around the New York Jets :

1. Money matters: This is the first year under the current collective bargaining agreement that no player on the Jets has qualified for a "proven performance escalator," a salary increase awarded to fourth-year players drafted in Rounds 3-7. They became official this week.Under the PPE, a player gets a raise in the final year of his rookie contract if he plays at least 35 percent of the offensive or defensive snaps in two of their first three seasons or has a cumulative average of 35 percent for the first three years.

In previous years, Bilal Powell (2014), Demario Davis (2015) and Brian Winters (2016) received hikes of about $1 million apiece. Now it's time for the 2014 draft picks to cash in, except no one is. That 12-player class, which includes 10 players in Rounds 3-7, has been a bust. You can thank former GM John Idzik for that.Wide receiver Quincy Enunwa came oh-so-close to qualifying, but he missed out on a $1.2 million raise due to a technicality. Even though the former sixth-round pick saw enough action over the past two seasons to qualify, he didn't get a salary bump because he's no longer on his rookie contract. Let's explain.

He was waived in 2014, spent 15 games on the practice squad and was re-signed to the 53-man roster for the final game. Technically, he's on his second contract.

That stinks for Enunwa because he played in 83 percent of the snaps in 2016 and 47 percent in 2015, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Even though he missed nearly the entire 2014 season, his cumulative average over three years still was 43 percent -- enough for the extra loot. But instead of a $1.84 million salary, he will make $615,000 in 2017.It also means he has only two accrued seasons, not three, so he won't be an unrestricted free agent until 2019. Good for the Jets, bad for Enunwa, one of their better young players.

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>     http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/66589/jets-quincy-enunwa-couldve-had-a-1-2-million-raise-if-only

This is the opportunity to do what he failed to do with Winters: get Enunwa to take a huge, guaranteed pay raise right now as part of an extension. He has no money and he and his agent both know the Jets control him for the next 2 seasons at very low dollars.

Absent an extension beforehand, the first opportunity for him to make a boatload of money will be in 2019, if he stays healthy and if he is playing at a high level for 2 more years. Only a fool would say no to an extension today, and no agent is fool enough to give him such terrible advice.

[kelly]

Rich CiminiESPN Staff Writer 

Ryan Fitzpatrick's contract with the Jets voids today. Per the deal he signed last July, the contract automatically voids five days after the Super Bowl. He made $12 million last season, but a phony year was added for salary-cap purposes. His $10 million bonus was pro-rated over two years. Thus, the Jets get stuck with a $5 million "dead" charge this year. Call it a going-away present.

 

>     http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyj/new-york-jets

[kelly]

NFL Salary Cap Space 2017: Giants get big boost, Jets still on bottom

Cuts, cuts and more cuts. With the Super Bowl over, previously-frozen rosters have been placed under a heating lamp. Essentially, teams can now release veterans in order to free salary cap space. 

What do Giants cuts mean for JPP?

The Giants freed nearly $10 million after releasing receiver Victor Cruz and running back Rashad Jennings. The Colts let go veteran linebacker D'Qwell Jackson. The Packers cut corner Sam Shields, and the Eagles corner Leodis McKelvin.The Jets ... well ... they haven't cut anyone yet, and sit nearly $8 million over the projected team salary cap of $168 million as a result. Key word: Yet. 

 

With the salary cap expected to jump an extra $10-$15 million, it's shaping up to be a wild few weeks. Every team is looking to get better, and quite a few have the funds to do so. According to OTC, the league wide cap room right now is about $1.1 billion, which comes out to about $36.5 million per NFL team.

Here's a look at the teams with the most salary cap space, as of Feb. 15, with a projected team cap of $168 million ($13 million increase from 2016). We will update this page weekly. Numbers courtesy of OverTheCap.com. 

1. Cleveland Browns: $106.539m
2. San Francisco 49ers: $78.688
3. Tennessee Titans: $62.389
4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $61.926
5. New England Patriots: $61.132
6. Jacksonville Jaguars: $59.769
7. Washington Redskins: $58.881
8. Indianapolis Colts: $54.238
9. Chicago Bears: $51.632
10. Carolina Panthers: $47.405
11. Cincinnati Bengals: $43.220
12. Green Bay Packers: $40.995
13. Oakland Raiders: $39.931
14. L.A. Rams: $37.438
15. Pittsburgh Steelers: $36.763
16. Detroit Lions: $32.797
17. Arizona Cardinals: $32.106
18. Denver Broncos: $31.904
19. New York Giants: $31.761
20. Miami Dolphins: $29.915
21. New Orleans Saints: $29.557
22. Seattle Seahawks: $27.501
23. Houston Texans: $24.396
24. Atlanta Falcons: $22.425
25. Minnesota Vikings: $21.414
26. San Diego Chargers: $20.231
27. Buffalo Bills: $19.880
28. Baltimore Ravens: $15.387
29. Philadelphia Eagles: $9.842
30. Kansas City Chiefs: $724k
31. New York Jets: (-) $7.968m
32. Dallas Cowboys: $12.468m
33. >     http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/02/nfl_salary_cap_space_2017_giants_get_big_boost_jet.html#incart_river_index

[kelly]

With one move, the Jets got themselves on the plus side in available funds.

Barely.

3 questions Jets must answer this offseason

By declining Ryan Clady's option, rendering the left tackle a free agent, the Jets freed $10 million in salary cap space. This takes them from $7.968 million over the projected team cap of $168 million, to $2.031 million under, per OverTheCap.com.The Jets still rank second to last in available cap space. Obviously, more moves are coming.

Releasing receiver Brandon Marshall ($7.5 million), cornerback Darrelle Revis ($9 million), center Nick Mangold ($9.076 million), safety Marcus Gilchrist ($4.625 million) and tackle Breno Giacomini ($4.5 million) can add another $34.676 million in space.As a measuring stick, 19 teams currently have at least $30 million in salary cap space. The Cleveland Browns lead all with a staggering $106.539 million. 

Declining Clady's option was an easy decision for the Jets. Depending on how things shake out in free agency and the draft (both weak in tackle options), they could bring him back at a lower, more cap-friendly rate.Clady was solid when on the field last year, but landed on the injured reserve with a shoulder injury. Once among the best at the position, Clady has played just 27 of a possible 64 games since 2013. 

With Clady now a free agent, the Jets have just four at the position heading into 2017: Giacomini, Jeff Adams, Brandon Shell and Brent Qvale.Ben Ijalana, who filled in for Clady when injured, is slated to be a free agent. 

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[kelly]

Criminal charges means Jets could wait to cut Revis

Posted by Mike Florio on February 16, 2017, 11:11 PM EST

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Before cornerback Darrelle Revis had four felony charges filed against him, the Jets faced the question of whether they would pay Revis $6 million to not play for the team in 2017 or $15 million to remain on the roster for the next season. Now, the Jets may have six million reasons to let things play out.

Depending on the precise language of his contract, a suspension under the Personal Conduct Policy could void the $6 million, allowing the Jets to cut Revis with no further financial obligation. One factor influencing the decision will be whether the NFL places Revis on leave pending the resolution of any investigation and discipline, since participation by Revis in the offseason program entails risk of a season-ending injury that would make the $15 million fully guaranteed, minus the amount of any unpaid suspension that could be eventually imposed.

If Revis is cut before a suspension is imposed, he’ll get the $6 million regardless of what transpires.

No matter how it plays out, the Jets’ business decisions regarding Revis have now become more complicated, in a way that could help the Jets end their relationship with Revis and avoid the final $6 million of the $39 million in fully-guaranteed money he received in 2015.

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[kelly]

Who goes, who stays: Prioritizing Jets' thin free-agent class

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  Rich CiminiESPN Staff Writer

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The New York Jets have 11 players eligible for unrestricted free agency on March 9. It's not a star-studded group. In fact, they combined for only 37 starts last season. Nevertheless, the Jets are trying to re-sign a handful of them.

How I'd rank them in order of importance :

1. LT Ben Ijalana: The Jets are interested in re-signing Ijalana, who replaced the departed Ryan Clady midway through last season. Ijalana (13 starts) made only $840,000 last season on a one-year contract; it'll cost the Jets more this time because he will draw interest from other teams. The Jets have to come out of free agency with a left tackle because they don't have one on the roster.

2. OLB Josh Martin: He was a bright spot on an otherwise moribund special-teams unit. Martin led the unit in tackles, drawing praise from a certain hoodie-wearing coach in New England. The Jets are trying to get a deal done. Martin may opt to test the market because he wants an opportunity to play linebacker.

3. OLB Mike Catapano: There's interest in re-signing the versatile Catapano (four starts), who can play multiple spots in the front seven and special teams.

4. LS Tanner Purdum: Has there been a more consistent player than Purdum over the past few years? Thing is, he's 32 years old and coming off a two-year deal that averaged $905,000 per year. The Jets may try to pinch pennies. They recently signed two unproven long-snappers, an indication they may let Purdum test the market.

5. OLB Bruce Carter: The former starter is a solid depth player, and depth at inside linebacker could be an issue. Nevertheless, there's no urgency to get something done. He's looking at a veterans-minimum contract.

6. QB Geno Smith: If the Jets strike out in the free-agent market, they could try to re-sign Smith on a one-year, prove-it deal, assuming his surgically repaired knee checks out. It's not the ideal situation. The Jets need a fresh start and so does Smith, who probably wants a change of scenery.

7. LT Ryan Clady: The Jets didn't exercise their option, making him a free agent. He could be a post-draft fallback option if they can't secure a replacement.

8. S Antonio Allen: He hasn't found a niche on defense, only special teams. Allen could be a post-draft possibility.

9. TE Kellen Davis: If the Jets switch to a West Coast offense, the profile for tight ends will change. The emphasis will be on pass-catching, not blocking, Davis' forte. His return is unlikely.

10. OLB Corey Lemonier: He had a cup of coffee last season, arriving in time for Week 17. Hey, the Jets are 1-0 with Lemonier.

 

11. QB Ryan Fitzpatrick: It was fun for a year. The second year, not so much. It's probably best for both sides to move on.

In addition, the Jets will have three restricted free agents :

1. C Wes Johnson: He started eight games for the injured Nick Mangold, who could become a cap casualty. To retain Johnson with the low-level tender, it'll cost at least $1.67 million (last year's amount), giving the Jets the right of first refusal. Look for that to happen.

2. CB Marcus Williams: He was exposed a bit last year after a promising 2015, but he's worth keeping around as a fourth corner. He could get the low tender.

3. TE Brandon Bostick: The low tender probably is too steep, but it wouldn't be a surprise if he re-ups on a lesser deal before free agency.

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[kelly]

One of the subplots to the Darrelle Revis case is his large contract with the New York Jets. They owe him $6 million even if he's not on the team in 2017, but they could try to have the contract voided because of his legal issues stemming from his alleged involvement in a street fight last weekend in Pittsburgh.

At this point -- assuming they release him, which is the likely outcome -- it's unknown whether the Jets would try to recoup the $6 million.

We'll walk you through what could develop into a controversy over his money. Here are the particulars :

The deadline: As part of the five-year, $70 million contract he signed in 2015, Revis is due a $2 million bonus if he's on the roster the second day of the 2017 league year (March 10). He also has a $13 million base salary that includes a $6 million guarantee. The Jets don't want to pay $15 million to a declining, 31-year-old player, so they could ask him to take a pay cut or simply release him on March 10 to avoid paying the $2 million bonus. They can't do it sooner because of complex rules involving the salary-cap hit. If they cut him, they owe him the $6 million guarantee -- unless he violates the contract. Keep reading.

The contract: There's language in Revis' contract that could protect the Jets in a situation like this. According to MMQB.com and NJ.com, the contract states that the guarantee is voided if he's fined or suspended for violating the NFL's personal-conduct policy or "if the player engages in personal conduct reasonably judged by Club to adversely affect or reflect on Club." The last part is vague; there's no language in the contract that mentions specific criminal charges. Revis is charged with four first-degree felonies, including assault and robbery.

The league: The NFL is "looking into" the Revis situation, according to a league spokesman. Commissioner Roger Goodell has the power to mete out discipline whenever he pleases, but in most cases, the league waits until the case is adjudicated before deciding whether to impose a fine or a suspension. In other words, it can move along at a glacial pace. There's virtually no chance the league will rule by March 10, when the Jets have to make a decision on Revis.

 

The Jets: So what recourse do they have? One person familiar with the situation said the Jets, if they're determined to chase the $6 million, could suspend him for conduct detrimental to the team before the March 10 bonus deadline. That would be a bold move that undoubtedly would prompt the NFL Players Association to get involved. What makes this tricky is they can't recoup the money once they cut him and write him a $6 million check. That's why they have to figure out something quickly. If they're really fired up, they could cut him March 10 and refuse to pay the $6 million, putting the onus on Revis to challenge it.

The likely outcome: The Jets could take a chance, pay the $2 million bonus on March 10 and continue to fight for the $6 million, waiting for the league to impose discipline. But that's not a gimme. Plus, do they want to engage in a protracted battle with one of the best players in franchise history? That would be awkward and messy. What would they do? Ban him from offseason workouts? They'd be on the hook for the entire 2017 salary if he showed up and sustained a season-ending injury.

No doubt, the Jets are exploring their options. In the end, the feeling here is they'll cut Revis on March 10, write him a $6 million check and tell everyone it was a football decision.

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[kelly]

Let me stop you before you assume what's going to be written below: This has nothing to do with the Jets' current $1.491 million in salary cap space. Nothing. 

Darrelle Revis charged: What does it mean for future with Jets?

Yes, they currently rank second-to-last in spending money. But with a few moves, they can easily pull within the upper-third. That's not bad. Not bad at all.

But don't get too excited. The Jets salary cap space doesn't carry the same worth as other teams. The Jets aren't starting with this money. They need to create it. Here's why that fact matters: 

They already declined the option of left tackle Ryan Clady, which added $10 million. Letting receiver Brandon Marshall go instantly frees $7.5 million. Linebacker David Harris and center Nick Mangold add another $15 million. Cutting cornerback Darrelle Revis on March 10 adds $9 million, right tackle Breno Giacomini $4.5 and safety Marcus Gilchrist $4.6. 

Total tally? $40.6 million. But for every player the Jets cut, they need to find a replacement, which diminishes the overall value of their spending money.

Declining Clady's option did free $10 million, but how much is his replacement going to cost? $7 million? $8 million? More than $10 million? Left tackles aren't cheap. That's a net of $2 or $3 million added, or a hit of $1 to $2 million. Cutting Marshall adds $7.5 million. Good, right? Sure, but how much will it cost to find another player of his talent? Marshall was right when he said any team should be "happy" to have him on his current deal. When he's healthy, he's a top wideout in the NFL ... but he's set to be the 16th highest-paid, per OTC. 

This same equation works for Harris, Gilchrist, Revis, Giacomini and any other player the Jets will consider cutting. 

Is it good the Jets have this financial flexibility? Sure, but it's not ideal. They'll be letting players go to pay better replacements more money, or worse replacements less.When you look at some of these other teams, they are starting with this money. They're not cutting players to get it. Without declining options, cutting or restructuring, the Browns have $106 million in salary cap space. The 49ers, with Colin Kaepernick under contract for $19.365 million, still have $78 million in cap space. 

Things aren't as grim as they are with the Cowboys. Dallas is near $13 million over the projected cap of $168 million (per OTC), with little wiggle room at all.  But the Jets aren't exactly golden, either.They put themselves in this position two years ago with flashy signings focused too much on the present, not future. So maybe this year general manager Mike Maccagnan should take a different approach? 

It's not about making a splash. It's about being smart. 

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[Shadetree]

Cut em all and create space.

insert young players, let Bowles prove something to us with all the young talent, or take a hike.

draft darnold if Bowles proves nothing. 

**** this team

**** em all

[rangerous]

i don't see where cutting a lot of these players is problem even if they consider the replacement player costs.  this is because many of those players can and will be replaced through the draft.  make no mistake, many of the jet cuts are on the back ends of their careers so a yound guy may be just as good.  and even if the young guys aren't as good from the start, they are on the upswing of their careers and so will eventually surpass the performance of the guys they replace.  as long as the jets don't have to sign a big ticket qb they'll be fine, cap wise.

so we'll see what happens.  even if they won't be picked to win more than a few games it'll be good to see players who want to play and go all out.  they may surprise too. it'll be like when michaels took over back in 77.

[Sperm Edwards]

12 hours ago, rangerous said:

i don't see where cutting a lot of these players is problem even if they consider the replacement player costs.  this is because many of those players can and will be replaced through the draft.  make no mistake, many of the jet cuts are on the back ends of their careers so a yound guy may be just as good.  and even if the young guys aren't as good from the start, they are on the upswing of their careers and so will eventually surpass the performance of the guys they replace.  as long as the jets don't have to sign a big ticket qb they'll be fine, cap wise.

so we'll see what happens.  even if they won't be picked to win more than a few games it'll be good to see players who want to play and go all out.  they may surprise too. it'll be like when michaels took over back in 77.

If it is so easy to just instantly fill "many" positions through the draft, explain why that solution is more acceptable now than in 2015.

You should consider them very lucky to fill more than 2 starting positions with rookies, and even that requires Maccagnan to go into the draft with 2-3 starting holes (no better than an Ijalana type in place, if even that), and then draft purely for such immediate need again. Even still, he'll have to nail each of his first two picks plus maybe one more, which hasn't happened yet in either of his first two seasons. 

The obvious difference between 1977 and 2017 is they're entering year 3 of their rebuild with this regime, not year 1. Unlike 40 years earlier, there is no changing of the guards for both the GM and HC. If they have a 1977-type season, they will both get fired. 

[rangerous]

4 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said:

If it is so easy to just instantly fill "many" positions through the draft, explain why that solution is more acceptable now than in 2015.

You should consider them very lucky to fill more than 2 starting positions with rookies, and even that requires Maccagnan to go into the draft with 2-3 starting holes (no better than an Ijalana type in place, if even that), and then draft purely for such immediate need again. Even still, he'll have to nail each of his first two picks plus maybe one more, which hasn't happened yet in either of his first two seasons. 

The obvious difference between 1977 and 2017 is they're entering year 3 of their rebuild with this regime, not year 1. Unlike 40 years earlier, there is no changing of the guards for both the GM and HC. If they have a 1977-type season, they will both get fired. 

first off you are commenting from hindsight.  if you made the same observations during 2015 then maybe you should be gm.  at this point, we can only speculate why mac made the moves he did.  some were good, some were bad.  the important thing going forwrd is how quickly he can fix things.  and no matter how much is said about how much cap he had, etc doesn't account for the damage caused by idzik's and tanny's bad drafts.

to answer you question, in 2015 they didn't have three players so obviously on the decline like clady, revis and giacomini.  add in a another year on mangold and harris and it's plenty easy to see that this year it's far easier to make those changes.  plus, mac appeared to be intent on getting the team competitive in a shorted period of time than he originally thought.  don't forget woody had a lot to say about the path he took. and i'm not so sure he thought the idzik draft choices would all be so bad.  and, of course, the record of the 2015 team completely fooled them into thinking they could parlay that into something better.  i'm fairly certain that after 2015 they were planning on keeping fitz at qb through 2017 to give petty/hack enough time to learn the system and eventually take over.

as for how many positions will they be able to fill through this years draft?  two maybe three.  they didn't play the young players early because, imo, bowles is predisposed against playing young players.  he was forced into using shell and iajalana because of clady and giacomini's injuries and johnson because of mangold's.  both of those players played well.  and burris did pretty well in the few games he started.

as for the difference between 1977 and now,that's up to woody.  it's his team and money.  he gave herm 5 seasons, bradway 4 seasons, tanny 5 seasons, rex 6 seasons so it's not like woody has a short hook.  finally i just want to say there's an awful lot of naysaying.  if this team is so sucky how did they even manage 5 wins? and if you look at the games objectively you'd see they could have easily won 3 more but for a single play.

[Butterfield]

Cut or trade everybody you can.

I would trade Sheldon, Pryor (if you can get anything for him), Marshall and Forte for a 5th round pick (maybe oakland?), Gilchrist if someone will take him (or just cut him)

I would also cut Revis and Giacomini and restructure Mangold.

That should leave us with over 30 million dollars in cap space.  Not a ton of room, but you should be able to sign an offensive lineman, a safety, a corner, a linebacker and someone to compete at qb.

 

 

 

 

[#27TheDominator]

5 hours ago, Butterfield said:

Cut or trade everybody you can.

I would trade Sheldon, Pryor (if you can get anything for him), Marshall and Forte for a 5th round pick (maybe oakland?), Gilchrist if someone will take him (or just cut him)

I would also cut Revis and Giacomini and restructure Mangold.

That should leave us with over 30 million dollars in cap space.  Not a ton of room, but you should be able to sign an offensive lineman, a safety, a corner, a linebacker and someone to compete at qb.

4 players for $30M?  We paid $8M for a mediocre guard. 

[Sperm Edwards]

On 2/21/2017 at 7:59 AM, rangerous said:

first off you are commenting from hindsight.  if you made the same observations during 2015 then maybe you should be gm.  at this point, we can only speculate why mac made the moves he did.  some were good, some were bad.  the important thing going forwrd is how quickly he can fix things.  and no matter how much is said about how much cap he had, etc doesn't account for the damage caused by idzik's and tanny's bad drafts.

to answer you question, in 2015 they didn't have three players so obviously on the decline like clady, revis and giacomini.  add in a another year on mangold and harris and it's plenty easy to see that this year it's far easier to make those changes.  plus, mac appeared to be intent on getting the team competitive in a shorted period of time than he originally thought.  don't forget woody had a lot to say about the path he took. and i'm not so sure he thought the idzik draft choices would all be so bad.  and, of course, the record of the 2015 team completely fooled them into thinking they could parlay that into something better.  i'm fairly certain that after 2015 they were planning on keeping fitz at qb through 2017 to give petty/hack enough time to learn the system and eventually take over.

as for how many positions will they be able to fill through this years draft?  two maybe three.  they didn't play the young players early because, imo, bowles is predisposed against playing young players.  he was forced into using shell and iajalana because of clady and giacomini's injuries and johnson because of mangold's.  both of those players played well.  and burris did pretty well in the few games he started.

as for the difference between 1977 and now,that's up to woody.  it's his team and money.  he gave herm 5 seasons, bradway 4 seasons, tanny 5 seasons, rex 6 seasons so it's not like woody has a short hook.  finally i just want to say there's an awful lot of naysaying.  if this team is so sucky how did they even manage 5 wins? and if you look at the games objectively you'd see they could have easily won 3 more but for a single play.

Many of us made these observations. You don't build a team with super-expensive veterans on their last legs. For example, Skrine was at least a better risk to take than Revis or Cromartie. No he wasn't so great before and certainly hasn't been great here, but if he'd panned out he'd be a longer-term solution than 1-2 years with a slim possibility of 3 (at far greater dollars). Thosae types of acquisitions are for teams with just a couple of missing pieces to push them over the top -- like New England. Or like Dallas and San Fran taking turns to short-term rent Deion Sanders.

Trying to build a team by pissing away some $100m on bringing in (or bringing back) Revis, Harris, Cromartie, Ferguson, Fitzpatrick, both Forte and Powell, Clady, Breno...  Not to mention his unreasonable lines in the sand with trade demands nobody was ever going to meet so he retained players he didn't even want anymore, with no place to put them all on the field. Then further, using high picks on players that, if playing to their upside, would absolutely not be any hard-to-find/missing-piece type that would put us over the top. Even the best of the bunch that landed in his lap - Williams, who's outstanding - was a redundant acquisition that didn't necessarily make the team any better. Fine if he's then going to immediately parlay one of the two he already had for another such high pick, but he didn't; kept all 3 like a stupid fool, and watched as his team struggled to find an appropriate place for all 3 together on anything other than likely running downs.

It has been a horrible wasted opportunity to set up the team for the long term. This is why I'm so hard on Maccagnan. It takes no brains at all to just be the highest bidder & quickly use up all the painfully-earned cap space his predecessor left him, plus unnecessarily using up another 8 figures in future cap flexibility on top of that, to foolishly chase after a SB ring without a starting QB. 

5 wins is sucky and I'm shocked anyone would try to argue otherwise (like you are doing here). You conveniently forget Buffalo essentially tanked the last game by benching Taylor, and that it took OT to beat the even-worse 49ers. It's also common for opponents to play down to their opponents like the '16 Jets (which is how upsets happen). Even still, just because a team is sucky isn't to say every player is therefore untalented & sucky every week. Pretty much every year even the worst teams win roughly this many games. The team earning the #1 pick in the upcoming draft often finishes with 4 wins, and we weren't noticeably any better than that.