OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Your refusal to believe I could actually play a strong town game is what is going to lead you to vote the wrong person (if you're indeed town). The "emo argument" isn't a great reason why I'm town. I don't recall only getting "emo" as town, it's a null tell at best. I was on Ape and Ballin early. I was wrong about Verbal, who took a lot of credit for those 2 lynches as well, but my reads of Ballin/Ape were strong independent of his. My record this game speaks for itself. Pac can you show the emo posts please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 1 minute ago, OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! said: 80 you agree with this irt Ape and Ballin? I haven't played with Ballin enough to know his tendencies. I think all he knew to do was to defend Ape because Ape was the Roleblocker. As for Ape, he'll defend himself and go after the people attacking him, but he's not really prone to bus THAT early from what I've recalled about his play. He tried to lead a lynch on me because he knew me and Verbal were right, while still trying to claim innocence after with the whole "Mafia has gotten really dumb" thing when I flipped town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! said: Pac can you show the emo posts please? Pac said I sucked at this game. I responded by saying "You know what, GFY. Your turn to be on ignore." That's all he's referring to. It's a stupid null tell for me, and one he leaned on for me being town rather than leaning on my play itself, because he refuses to believe I'm any good at it and can have a strong town game. He's simply settled on me being terrible in his head even when others have admitted I'm capable of playing well at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Pac said I sucked at this game. I responded by saying "You know what, GFY. Your turn to be on ignore." That's all he's referring to. It's a stupid null tell for me, and one he leaned on for me being town rather than leaning on my play itself, because he refuses to believe I'm any good at it and can have a strong town game. He's simply settled on me being terrible in his head even when others have admitted I'm capable of playing well at times. why did you edit this post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Oh, one additional point about Ape: Much like Pac, he has a giant ego, and isn't really willing to GET bussed. Especially when he has a scum power role. Keep that in mind to. If Pac is the GF, his push to suggest everyone on the scum team would bus each other out of the gate is inaccurate. No chance Ape would let me get away with that. I'm town, and simply played lights out. That's all there is to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 1 minute ago, OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! said: why did you edit this post? I had forgotten to add the last part: " He's simply settled on me being terrible in his head even when others have admitted I'm capable of playing well at times." Felt that was important to point out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 FML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! said: Pac can you show the emo posts please? It's hard to search stuff while at work but what he said is about right.. When 80 is scum he plays a loosey goosey game and RARELY gets mad when people attack him because he's, well, they're right. So when I see him getting all bent out of shape and emo for my garden variety jabs I thought he really was sensitive townie who was mad I wasn't giving him recognition. It was my fault to immediately rule him out on emo but it really was something I've never seen him do as scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Just now, OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! said: FML lol. At this point I'd rather lose to you than to Pac. It's decision making time, and if we don't make one soon we'll just go around and around with this stuff. Here goes nothing. Vote Pac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Oh and Zander use your head for a minute... If I'm the last scum why in the sam hill f-ck would I have wavered from voting you today? 80 and been in lockstep with me the last 2 days making it perfectly clear you must be the last one... So if I'm scum why not come in, vote you, then let him hammer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: lol. At this point I'd rather lose to you than to Pac. It's decision making time, and if we don't make one soon we'll just go around and around with this stuff. Here goes nothing. Vote Pac FML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: lol. At this point I'd rather lose to you than to Pac. It's decision making time, and if we don't make one soon we'll just go around and around with this stuff. Here goes nothing. Vote Pac There it is! Complete change on Zander from what you've been saying the last couple days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Just now, Pac said: Oh and Zander use your head for a minute... If I'm the last scum why in the sam hill f-ck would I have wavered from voting you today? 80 and been in lockstep with me the last 2 days making it perfectly clear you must be the last one... So if I'm scum why not come in, vote you, then let him hammer? FML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 On 11/2/2016 at 7:35 PM, Pac said: Look at this sh-t show... It's gotta be Crush or Zanderella. If 80 fooled me with EMO then he fooled me with EMO. Hess had absolutely no reason to release an innocent on me as scum. Zandarellas game is too erratic and clueless to be by design. If he's scum then it was beautifully played. This post helped make me think there's a good chance Pac really is GF. First he suggests Zander has to be a candidate for the last scum, then later acts like he KNOWS Zander is town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 My Head is telling me to vote Pac My Gut is telling me to vote 80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 I think it's gotta be 80.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 On 11/2/2016 at 8:56 PM, Pac said: yeah at this point I'm ok if they lynch me provided they lynch you next. You'd have to leave Zander and 80 alive and chop down that fool Hess to stand a chance, then leverage your good will with that sissy 80 to get him to vote Zanderella. Very difficult but not impossible. Here again Pac tries to frame endgame as if Zander is just a "patsie" for Crusher. Again, as if he KNOWS Zander is town. He's just manipulating the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Just now, OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! said: My Head is telling me to vote Pac My Gut is telling me to vote 80 Interested to hear why your head telling you to vote me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 80 has done a complete 180 from early yesterday when he was all in on Zander... Now he's all in on me. What has changed for you 80? You don't want to "lose to me"? That all you got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, Pac said: There it is! Complete change on Zander from what you've been saying the last couple days. The tinfoiling Zander has made the last several days makes a lot more sense given that you're alive for endgame. You've been discrediting Zander as a lunatic the last several days. Again....as if you KNOW he's town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Here again Pac tries to frame endgame as if Zander is just a "patsie" for Crusher. Again, as if he KNOWS Zander is town. He's just manipulating the situation. haha.. you've been calling me town for days and refusing to believe there is a GF... now I'm suddenly the boogie man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Couple that with not being on either Ape or Ballin train and that's all I've got. You're the Godfather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Just now, Pac said: Interested to hear why your head telling you to vote me? Because you have been by far the Scummiest player in the game and werent on any Scum trains, youve lied and made stuff up, refused to back things up when asked and you refused to claim in a Pro Town claiming time situation. The fact I also know its 50/50 theres a GF here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Just now, Pac said: haha.. you've been calling me town for days and refusing to believe there is a GF... now I'm suddenly the boogie man. Because you're alive. You've said many times scum is "afraid" of you and would NK you in an instant. Why are you alive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 My Gut is telling me 80 because like ive mentioned hes been either GOAT or TMI all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Also Pac why are you voting 80? If I was Scum I would have hammered you by now right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pac Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Just now, OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! said: Because you have been by far the Scummiest player in the game and werent on any Scum trains, youve lied and made stuff up, refused to back things up when asked and you refused to claim in a Pro Town claiming time situation. The fact I also know its 50/50 theres a GF here Ok here's a free tip.. scummy play makes it more likely you survive the night. I don't mind getting heat or hearing people say they'll vote me the next day because then scum will be way less likely to shoot me. Secondly I haven't lied or made stuff up. Claiming vanilla roleless townie the last couple days was a complete waste of time. HESS ALREADY CLEARED ME! Why let scum know I was roleless and help them narrow down their target list! How is this lost on you? I don't think there is a GF.. giving the town a 1 time investigation against 3 scum and a SK is already weak... making it worse by adding a GF is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! said: Also Pac why are you voting 80? If I was Scum I would have hammered you by now right? That's a good effin point. VOTE 80!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! said: If I was Scum I would have hammered you by now right? Yep, which is why I'm quite confident now that you're town. I will not be moving my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 DUDE THE SETUP IS ******* RANDOMIZED AND THEY ALL ARE BALANCED!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH NO.....ITS ZANDER!!!!!! Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Just now, Pac said: That's a good effin point. VOTE 80!! FML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Got you 80 you silly bastard! At this point even if Zander votes me YOU AND YOUR TEAM DIDN'T BEAT ME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Your call Zander. I've made all the necessary arguments. Pac shouldn't be alive right now if he's town. Not a chance. He left me alive so that he could get you to vote me. He's been subtly manipulating play to set up for this, playing with full confidence that Hess's clearance of him would give him a free ticket to endgame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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