Klecko73isGod Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 We could be the Jaguars and have a coach who is still employed despite having the 2nd worst win percentage of any coach with more than 50 games since World War II. Bert Bell was the worst and he only kept his job as HC for so long because he also owned the damn team. He eventually came to his senses and replaced himself. This loser is 14-41. And yet some down here still defend this idiot. It's like they have Stockholm Syndrome. Blake Bortles has only thrown 147 passes in his career with a lead. He's thrown 1015 while trailing. Ouch. Plus, they have the worst looking uniforms in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 The similarities of the Jags to the Jets are pretty amazing actually. Terrible drafting teams, who compound mistakes with more mistakes. I was watching that game going; man, the Jags fired Mulakery after 1 season while coaching the worst roster in the entire NFL and is now building a very talented well coached team in Tenn. And then the week before, they were blown out by Jack Del Rio who is doing the exact same thing. So in back to back games, they've lost to their former Head Coaches. The only the other coach they've had and fired, went on to win 2 Super Bowls in Tom Coughlin. It's soooo Jets like its not even funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Hackenburgs max upside? Blake Bortles in the 1st half of last nights game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 It could be worse.....we could all have Rutgers season tix! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 47 minutes ago, JiF said: The similarities of the Jags to the Jets are pretty amazing actually. Terrible drafting teams, who compound mistakes with more mistakes. I was watching that game going; man, the Jags fired Mulakery after 1 season while coaching the worst roster in the entire NFL and is now building a very talented well coached team in Tenn. And then the week before, they were blown out by Jack Del Rio who is doing the exact same thing. So in back to back games, they've lost to their former Head Coaches. The only the other coach they've had and fired, went on to win 2 Super Bowls in Tom Coughlin. It's soooo Jets like its not even funny. Coaching matters, obviously. But if a coach is given no talent, he won't succeed. Ever. A decent coach will look amazing with great talent. Brian Billick was an offensive genius in Minn. The fact he had Randall Cunningham throwing to Moss and Carter, with Robert Smith didn't hurt. Mike Martz was a genius with the Greatest Show on Turf. OK, he also had (to me) a HOF QB, throwing to a (HOF to me) WR in Torry Holt, a Pro Bowl WR in Isaac Bruce, a HOF left tackle with Orlando Pace, and a HOF and all time running back with Marshall Faulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 28 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Hackenburgs max upside? Blake Bortles in the 1st half of last nights game. And how exactly do you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Klecko73isGod said: We could be the Jaguars and have a coach who is still employed despite having the 2nd worst win percentage of any coach with more than 50 games since World War II. Bert Bell was the worst and he only kept his job as HC for so long because he also owned the damn team. He eventually came to his senses and replaced himself. This loser is 14-41. And yet some down here still defend this idiot. It's like they have Stockholm Syndrome. Blake Bortles has only thrown 147 passes in his career with a lead. He's thrown 1015 while trailing. Ouch. Plus, they have the worst looking uniforms in history. Plus, that roster is pretty loaded now. So, it's happening in spite of some fairly good drafting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 11 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: And how exactly do you know that? NostraBeerfish, I can see things. My totally scientific evaluation of what Hackenburg looks like, throws like and appears to be like. Except he is about 5 miles away from where bortles was hen he started in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 4 hours ago, chirorob said: Coaching matters, obviously. But if a coach is given no talent, he won't succeed. Ever. A decent coach will look amazing with great talent. Brian Billick was an offensive genius in Minn. The fact he had Randall Cunningham throwing to Moss and Carter, with Robert Smith didn't hurt. Mike Martz was a genius with the Greatest Show on Turf. OK, he also had (to me) a HOF QB, throwing to a (HOF to me) WR in Torry Holt, a Pro Bowl WR in Isaac Bruce, a HOF left tackle with Orlando Pace, and a HOF and all time running back with Marshall Faulk. Oh I get it. I'm just saying, they fired Mularkey when he had no talent...kind of like the Jets did with Rex. They fired Coughlin for no reason. Del Rio had a terrible GM. so and so. Bad drafting too. Over priced FA's. Underachieving now. Lots of similarities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 It could be a lot worse than the Jets situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 4 hours ago, Integrity28 said: Plus, that roster is pretty loaded now. So, it's happening in spite of some fairly good drafting. Fairly good is the key word. They've had some questionable picks. Bortles was a questionable pick the shot up the draft boards due to some predraft hype. They passed on Kahlil Mack, Mike Evans, Sammy Watkins, Jake Matthews, Taylor Lewan...all positions of need. Fowler over Williams was stupid. Yeldon in the 2nd stupid. AJ Cann is terrible and they passed on good talent. This draft is yet to be determined but taking Jalen Ramsey that high seemed silly. They're the worst team in the league from a turnover perspective and they took a corner who had 1 INT his entire college career. It's been bad and some have the FA's. Malik Jackson and that contract? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 The steelers bumble bee ? uniforms are worse!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 4 hours ago, Beerfish said: NostraBeerfish, I can see things. My totally scientific evaluation of what Hackenburg looks like, throws like and appears to be like. Except he is about 5 miles away from where bortles was hen he started in the league. What he looks like? He looks like a stud NFL caliber QB. Did you watch Bortles last night? Bortles is awful, beyond awful, but that again could be attributed to poor coaching. Quite honestly, they looked like the Jacksonville Jets last night, totally unprepared to play, totally not giving a crap, no desire to win or compete, and getting blown to bits in the first half. They made Mariotta look like Dan Marino where Mariotta is really not that good yet. The Jags are awful period. They too have a lot of high draft talent and piss poor coaching IMO. You may very well be right about Hack. I still maintain that nobody here knows for sure if he will be able to play in the NFL until he does so, and not this season. While I do want to see him play this year, we will get a better judgement after a season on the sidelines, a season of OTA's and TC next Summer. Then let him play and if he sucks, he sucks and I give kudos to everyone who felt that way, but until then, I think you and everyone else who arbitrarily say he cannot play, are jumping to conclusions.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: What he looks like? He looks like a stud NFL caliber QB. Did you watch Bortles last night? Bortles is awful, beyond awful, but that again could be attributed to poor coaching. Quite honestly, they looked like the Jacksonville Jets last night, totally unprepared to play, totally not giving a crap, no desire to win or compete, and getting blown to bits in the first half. They made Mariotta look like Dan Marino where Mariotta is really not that good yet. The Jags are awful period. They too have a lot of high draft talent and piss poor coaching IMO. You may very well be right about Hack. I still maintain that nobody here knows for sure if he will be able to play in the NFL until he does so, and not this season. While I do want to see him play this year, we will get a better judgement after a season on the sidelines, a season of OTA's and TC next Summer. Then let him play and if he sucks, he sucks and I give kudos to everyone who felt that way, but until then, I think you and everyone else who arbitrarily say he cannot play, are jumping to conclusions.. I've seen him play in college for 4 years. And I invite you to go look at some clips on the interwebz. I never liked the pick. And that's why a lot, and I do mean a lot of people fear the worst. Which is he's a wasted 2nd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 11 minutes ago, peebag said: I've seen him play in college for 4 years. And I invite you to go look at some clips on the interwebz. I never liked the pick. And that's why a lot, and I do mean a lot of people fear the worst. Which is he's a wasted 2nd rounder. I am not doubting that, I have seen him get his brains bashed in, sack after sack, but he did have a great first year and with the proper coaching (which we sadly do not have at the moment) he could turn out to be great, you just never know. You cannot base his pro career on what he did in a bad College system. Gruden hosts a QB show, I forgot the name of it, but he had Hack on one episode and I am telling you, the kid has a lot of NFL potential as long as he is coached up correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 6 hours ago, Klecko73isGod said: Plus, they have the worst looking uniforms in history. Especially the two tone helmet. Ugly. As are Tampa Bay and Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 36 minutes ago, peebag said: I've seen him play in college for 4 years. And I invite you to go look at some clips on the interwebz. I never liked the pick. And that's why a lot, and I do mean a lot of people fear the worst. Which is he's a wasted 2nd rounder. I'm not sure how you watched him for 4 years in college when he only played 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Joejet said: I'm not sure how you watched him for 4 years in college when he only played 3. It seemed like 4.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 thats right, we have bowles, revis and the unicorn , lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 7 hours ago, ASH1962 said: And how exactly do you know that? Don't bother. Hack is the new "Geno" as whipping boy, without the off the field antics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 16 minutes ago, JetBlue said: Don't bother. Hack is the new "Geno" as whipping boy, without the off the field antics. "Geno" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Hackenberg had a career 56% completion percentage in college. Accuracy has destroyed more QBs than any other trend in the recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 9 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Hackenberg had a career 56% completion percentage in college. Accuracy has destroyed more QBs than any other trend in the recent years. At this point none of that matters. What only matters is what he can develop into as a pro. The tools are there; the desire and work ethic is there, now we just have to wait and and happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Could be worse. You could be a Jets fan that lives in Jacksonville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 10 hours ago, Beerfish said: Hackenburgs max upside? Blake Bortles in the 1st half of last nights game. Hackebnurgs upside is best QB in the NFL. His downside makes Sanchez look like Manning in comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 It could be raining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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