Tinstar Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 12 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: So your gonna gamble that a playoff team will tank? Look, before I dismiss any potential trade, I want to know what I am offered for a player I could lose for nothing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 10 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: If we draft like sh*t, how do you explain Richardson? Some posters are so scarred by the Jets FO view of Geno Smith that they see nothing else. Leonard Williams is on pace to post double-digit sacks in his second season, but the Jets can't draft. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 11 minutes ago, David Harris said: Take whatever you can get. Leonard Williams is our best defense of player. Wilkerson for better or worse signed long-term. There is simply no room for a third guy. Plus Sheldon has made fairly clear he will be very difficult to sign and he wants top dollar. So all you guys who say you would not trade him except for top 10 pick give me the contract details for both him and Leonard Williams extensions place those next to Wilkerson's. You're talking NFL with the salary cap, while some are talking Madden or fantasy football where anything is possible . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, AFJF said: Some posters are so scarred by the Jets FO view of Geno Smith that they see nothing else. Leonard Williams has six sacks in his second year, but the Jets can't draft. LOL Williams was a no brainer he was the best defensive player on the board when the Jets drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: Williams was a no brainer he was the best defensive player on the board when the Jets drafted. I'm shocked to learn you're one of the many fans who call every good pick "obvious", but the bad ones prove to be a terrible FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Williams was a no brainer he was the best defensive player on the board when the Jets drafted. It was a no brainer for the Redskins at 4 as well but they instead picked a guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, AFJF said: I'm shocked to learn you're one of the many fans who call every good pick "obvious", but the bad ones prove to be a terrible FO. Review the history of Jets draft picks and tell me we've been successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 11 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Glennon? What has he proven in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, Jetlife33 said: It was a no brainer for the Redskins at 4 as well but they instead picked a guard. They obviously wanted offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Williams was a no brainer he was the best defensive player on the board when the Jets drafted. So was Warren Sapp. So doesnt the fact that we took him show good judgement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: So was Warren Sapp. So doesnt the fact that we took him show good judgement? Sapp had baggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: Review the history of Jets draft picks and tell me we've been successful. The problem is you are bringing history into a discussion where it is irrelevant. Different personnel, different scout teams etc. The draft history is irrelevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: Sapp had baggage. So did Marino. And though I like O'Brien, how did that turn out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Review the history of Jets draft picks and tell me we've been successful. Tell me what Mike Maccagnan has to do with the Jets entire history of draft picks. Dying to hear the logic behind this thought process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 20 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: Great, we have the invisible sh*tbox for 100 mil and Sheldon will be gone. He's gone no matter what. Can't keep those 3 D Linemen. We resigned the safer one, who is either hurt or doesn't care, so now we have to trade the nutcase who seems to be keeping his nose clean, but is the better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: The problem is you are bringing history into a discussion where it is irrelevant. Different personnel, different scout teams etc. The draft history is irrelevant How is it irrelevant because you say it is. Review our draft history we've been bad I'm not speculating this is fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: So did Marino. And though I like O'Brien, how did that turn out? Did Marino win a Super Bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: How is it irrelevant because you say it is. Review our draft history we've been bad I'm not speculating this is fact. Oh my God. I wonder if Mike Maccagnan was on the Jets staff when we drafted Kyle Brady? Hell, THE OWNER WASNT HERE WHEN WE DRAFTED KYLE BRADY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscanes331 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 17 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: We draft like sh*t NO WAY IN HELL 4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Williams was a no brainer he was the best defensive player on the board when the Jets drafted. "The jets suck at drafting" "The jets had a good draft plan and scouting and executed it well" Which one is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Sheldon Richardson - DL - Jets According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, teams have been "calling" about Jets DE Sheldon Richardson. The trade deadline is Tuesday at 4 PM ET, so the Jets only have two days left to strike a deal. The Jets don't have much cap space available and Richardson has only one year remaining on his contract after this season. It wouldn't hurt the Jets to at least gauge his value over the next 48 hours. If the Jets don't get an offer to their liking, they could look to trade Richardson again during the offseason. Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter Oct 30 - 10:28 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Geno Smith is voted worst QB in the NFL twice after 29 career starts...not his fault Mike Maccagnan has had two drafts as a GM...every draft in team history is his fault. Imagine my surprise in seeing this "thought' process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, jetscanes331 said: "The jets suck at drafting" "The jets had a good draft plan and scouting and executed it well" Which one is it? The dude's either a moron or a troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: Oh my God. I wonder if Mike Maccagnan was on the Jets staff when we drafted Kyle Brady? Hell, THE OWNER WASNT HERE WHEN WE DRAFTED KYLE BRADY Who does Macc have on his resume as drafted superstars? JJ Watt was a no brainer so was Hopkins if he's even responsible for him the Texans are worse off than the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Should have never given mo that contract.Sent from my VS930 4G using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrickTamland Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Trade Sheldon or lose him for nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 12 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Glennon? What has he proven in the NFL? 2014 1,417 yards 10TD 6 Int 2013 2,608 yards 19 TD 9 Int Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, Gastineau Lives said: Should have never given mo that contract. Sent from my VS930 4G using Tapatalk I dont know about that. To me Mo is like Shaun Ellis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, Gastineau Lives said: Should have never given mo that contract. Sent from my VS930 4G using Tapatalk Restructure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: Oh my God. I wonder if Mike Maccagnan was on the Jets staff when we drafted Kyle Brady? Hell, THE OWNER WASNT HERE WHEN WE DRAFTED KYLE BRADY This has to be schtick. Nobody can possibly "think" this way. The two-year GM is at fault for the 30+ years of terrible drafting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 16 minutes ago, David Harris said: Sheldon has made fairly clear he will be very difficult to sign and he wants top dollar. This to me is the key point. Regardless of skill or off the field issues, this feels like Revis Part 2 in the making. I could easily see a hold out and a bunch of disruption here trying to squeeze top dollar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, BrickTamland said: Trade Sheldon or lose him for nothing... Another voice of reason. Take the best offer, which will NOT be a 1st for all the la la land residents, and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, jetscanes331 said: "The jets suck at drafting" "The jets had a good draft plan and scouting and executed it well" Which one is it? We dont draft well if you calculate all the picks and all the players still on the team or in the NFL many 1st rounders are busts. Williams was the best defensive player available when the Jets drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 7 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said: It was a no brainer for the Redskins at 4 as well but they instead picked a guard. Redskins picked 5th, but I said the same thing in another thread. No point sticking up for Mac; it is like Fitz vs. Geno; This board is filled with side-takers; pro Mac can see no wrong, anti Mac can't see anything good. For those of us in the middle it can be very frustrating, but it is what it is. It was a no-brainer, but the Jags and Raiders pass on him as well. Either it is a no brainer and 3 teams f-d up, or it is a balanced decision and Mac did well. Either way, it is like the election; those in their own camps cannot see right in the other candidate and wrong in their own... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 The Wilkerson, Richardson debate is kind of like Manning Leaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 24 minutes ago, David Harris said: Wilkerson for better or worse signed long-term. Doesn't mean we can't fix the mistake. When teams call for Sheldon, sell them on Wilk and his deal. Letting Sheldon go would be a huge mistake. There is no way to replace a guy with his level of talent and hustle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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