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ScarletKnight89

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36 minutes ago, Ex-Rex said:

First sign of struggle???? Where the bleepity bleep have you been all season??? Bowles has blown one game after another and his super, ultra conservative game plan was terrible. The Rams knew the Jets would throw nothing but dump offs and short hook patterns, so they pushed up. One good play fake could have seen Anderson get deep for a big one. Petty has a cannon and can throw accurately deep. Gailey never opened things up and Bowles doesn't pay it any mind.

THE TEAM ISNT GOOD. 

That's not going to be fixed in 1, 2, 3 , or 4 weeks. They don't have the talent. They're not going to magically get good in the middle of the season. I've been here just like you have watching this team play all season. But I realize that it's not just the coach holding this team back. They lack talent. Thats what I mean by first sign of struggle. The struggle was in evaluating the talent on this team. Veterans have regressed and certain areas were overrated. And they have no QB.

 

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2 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

The teams not that good. They aren't going to magically start winning games now. Are you going to be even more furious when New England beats up on us in 2 weeks? It doesn't get better in one week. This season has been a struggle. But you have to give a coach a chance to fix it.

He and the GM can't just infuse a whole new team onto the field in a week. Good luck finding the coach and GM who can.

They're going to need the off season to try and fix things. But i'm sure you don't want to give them a chance. You want them fired, we'll bring in a new group who will have initial success, we'll proclaim them great, and then if we have a set back you'll want them fired too. I get it.

 

If Bowles stays he will surely have to make some changes on his CS. Gailey has to go and so does Kacy Rodgers. Bowles also needs to grow a set and instill some discipline on this team.

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10 minutes ago, Blackout said:

 

he was 10-6 a year ago, relax.

Yes, enough already with the Fire Bowles crap. 

Stop with the revolving door at HC. 

I remember people calling jack del Rio an idiot too. Did he miraculously become a Mensa member? Just stop already. We need so many players it's ridiculous. It ain't the coach.

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10 minutes ago, Shadetree said:

Yes, enough already with the Fire Bowles crap. 

Stop with the revolving door at HC. 

I remember people calling jack del Rio an idiot too. Did he miraculously become a Mensa member? Just stop already. We need so many players it's ridiculous. It ain't the coach.

Bowles makes Rex look like Belichick

 

Tom Coughlin please.

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23 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

THE TEAM ISNT GOOD. 

That's not going to be fixed in 1, 2, 3 , or 4 weeks. They don't have the talent. They're not going to magically get good in the middle of the season. I've been here just like you have watching this team play all season. But I realize that it's not just the coach holding this team back. They lack talent. Thats what I mean by first sign of struggle. The struggle was in evaluating the talent on this team. Veterans have regressed and certain areas were overrated. And they have no QB.

 

You realize Bowles is a part of the talent evaluation?

 

We cut Jeremy Kerley, didn't even get a draft pick for him, and he's currently a very productive WR for the 49ers.  We cut Coples because Bowles didn't like him, strengthen Muhammed WIlkerson's negotiating stance, and end up giving Wilkerson $100 million to be even worse than Coples ever was.

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18 minutes ago, Ex-Rex said:

If Bowles stays he will surely have to make some changes on his CS. Gailey has to go and so does Kacy Rodgers. Bowles also needs to grow a set and instill some discipline on this team.

It's a combination of a lot of things. I think a shakeup is needed.

I don't understand why our defensive line hasn't played up to expectations this year. I think it's because we have no edge rushers. But Wilkerson is either playing hurt and or taking plays off like he's been accused of. The D-Line dominated in the Cincy game and outside of stopping the run, hasn't played at that level since. I don't get whats going on there. But i'm not blaming Bowles. Especially when we here Wilkerson and Richardson don't show up for meetings.

I think our LB core is inexperienced and has good and bad weeks. And out secondary stinks. Revis got torched again in the first half for over 100 yards. Skrine stinks,. I just think the talent isn't very good on defense and it's a team that was built on playing good D and having a nice complimentary offense.

I actually felt our offense was our stronger unit last year. But it was good with Fitz having a career year which he clearly didn't replicate this season, Decker being out for the year was a huge blow, especially in the red zone. Our O-Line needs an overhaul. I like our young receivers but they disappear from time to time. Thats a combo of a lot of things, the biggest probably being that we not only don't have a QB, but are getting below average play from the guys we put back there.

We blew the game week 1 cause of our kicker. We had so many chances against KC but Fitz turned the ball over in the red zone numerous times, we gave up a special teams TD which beat us last year. We've blown games this year because we aren't very good.

Some of that is on Bowles and Macc of course. But i'm willing to give them a chance to see that they made mistakes and try and correct them for next year.

 

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3 minutes ago, drdetroit said:

You realize Bowles is a part of the talent evaluation?

 

We cut Jeremy Kerley, didn't even get a draft pick for him, and he's currently a very productive WR for the 49ers.  We cut Coples because Bowles didn't like him, strengthen Muhammed WIlkerson's negotiating stance, and end up giving Wilkerson $100 million to be even worse than Coples ever was.

Jeremy Kerley was phased out of the offense last year and the team had one of the best years offensively I can remember as a Jets fan. The Jets deemed him as a guy who didn't fit what they were trying to do. They didn't think he wasn't a good player. Nobody had a problem with Kerley's role last year which was non existent.

Wilkerson has played like a great player leading up to this year. The Jets were wrong to resign him? How are they suppose to know he would react like this after getting paid? I also think he's hurt and still recovering from his broken leg at the end of last season. I bet we'll see a better Wilkerson next year. That is what it is though for 2016. Lost year for Mo. But I can't blame the Jets for paying a top player.

Bowles deserves some blame as well. I'm just saying he should be given a chance to turn things around. Not fired after a season and a half.

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2 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

Jeremy Kerley was phased out of the offense last year and the team had one of the best years offensively I can remember as a Jets fan. The Jets deemed him as a guy who didn't fit what they were trying to do. They didn't think he wasn't a good player. Nobody had a problem with Kerley's role last year which was non existent.

Wilkerson has played like a great player leading up to this year. The Jets were wrong to resign him? How are they suppose to know he would react like this after getting paid? I also think he's hurt and still recovering from his broken leg at the end of last season. I bet we'll see a better Wilkerson next year. That is what it is though for 2016. Lost year for Mo. But I can't blame the Jets for paying a top player.

Bowles deserves some blame as well. I'm just saying he should be given a chance to turn things around. Not fired after a season and a half.

Todd Bowles has done absolutely nothing here in 2 seasons there are no bright spots and any signs of improvement we lost to the Rams 9-6 

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6 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Todd Bowles has done absolutely nothing here in 2 seasons there are no bright spots and any signs of improvement we lost to the Rams 9-6 

He's 13-13. He went 10-6 last year with Ryan Fitzpatrick as his QB. It's been a season and a half. What's the big achievement you are looking for? They missed out on the playoffs in year 1 with a tough loss to the Bills to end their season after going on a great run to make that game mean something. They've had a bad year 2 after struggling through a brutal opening schedule. And now the season has unraveled on them. You've seen enough though because of that?

No bright spots? Leonard Williams looks pretty good, Enunwa and Robbie Anderson have developed nicely. We brought in Marshall and he and Decker were one of the best receiving combos in Jets history last year. It was a veteran team trying to rebuild while staying competitive. Thats a hard thing to do. They were good last year because Fitz gave them a career season. He reverted back to the old Fitz this year and a lot of our vets are starting to show their age. They need to get younger.

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12 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

Jeremy Kerley was phased out of the offense last year and the team had one of the best years offensively I can remember as a Jets fan. The Jets deemed him as a guy who didn't fit what they were trying to do. They didn't think he wasn't a good player. Nobody had a problem with Kerley's role last year which was non existent.

Wilkerson has played like a great player leading up to this year. The Jets were wrong to resign him? How are they suppose to know he would react like this after getting paid? I also think he's hurt and still recovering from his broken leg at the end of last season. I bet we'll see a better Wilkerson next year. That is what it is though for 2016. Lost year for Mo. But I can't blame the Jets for paying a top player.

Bowles deserves some blame as well. I'm just saying he should be given a chance to turn things around. Not fired after a season and a half.

Bowles' evaluation of Kerley was totally off.  Right now he'd be the second best WR on our team

 

Wilkerson has the worst contract in the entire NFL.  Even worse than Revis.

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2 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

He's 14-14. He went 10-6 last year with Ryan Fitzpatrick as his QB. It's been a season and a half. What's the big achievement you are looking for? They missed out on the playoffs in year 1 with a tough loss to the Bills to end their season after going on a great run to make that game mean something. They've had a bad year 2 after struggling through a brutal opening schedule. And now the season has unraveled on them. You've seen enough though because of that?

No bright spots? Leonard Williams looks pretty good, Enunwa and Robbie Anderson have developed nicely. We brought in Marshall and he and Decker were one of the best receiving combos in Jets history last year. It was a veteran team trying to rebuild while staying competitive. Thats a hard thing to do. They were good last year because Fitz gave them a career season. He reverted back to the old Fitz this year and a lot of our vets are starting to show their age. They need to get younger.

Last season means nothing to me we played the easiest schedule in the NFL and failed to make the playoffs. 

I see no dominate presence anywhere on the field by anyone. 

The coaching staff called a sh*t game plan today and we lost 9-6 

Enough is enough  

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1 minute ago, drdetroit said:

Bowles' evaluation of Kerley was totally off.  Right now he'd be the second best WR on our team he

 

Wilkerson has the worst contract in the entire NFL.  Even worse than Revis.

I'm not worried about Wilkerson at all.

Kerley is a nice slot receiver. I'll take Marshall, Decker, and Enunwa over him. I don't miss him at all. Nice player, not a big loss. Certainly not the reason we are struggling.

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1 minute ago, joewilly12 said:

Exactly why cant they see this. 

They don't it's just nonsense.  The players don't respect Bowles, he can't make adjustments on defense, his time management is attrocious, he cuts Jeremy Kerley for no reason other than he didn't kiss his butt enough - Todd Bowles is a clown.

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They don't it's just nonsense.  The players don't respect Bowles, he can't make adjustments on defense, his time management is attrocious, he cuts Jeremy Kerley for no reason other than he didn't kiss his butt enough - Todd Bowles is a clown.

Macc needs to go too!  He's responsible for this sh*t show. 

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2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Last season means nothing to me we played the easiest schedule in the NFL and failed to make the playoffs. 

I see no dominate presence anywhere on the field by anyone. 

The coaching staff called a sh*t game plan today and we lost 9-6 

Enough is enough  

Last season may mean nothing to you but it counts when you're evaluating the job Bowles did. We went 10-6 with a team that was predicted to not be that good.

The CS is working with a 4th round QB. Petty checked down a lot today, even in the plays that weren't quick reads and designed plays. He chose not to throw down field plenty of times, he missed some opportunities.

On the punt that setup the go ahead FG by the Rams he rolled out of the pocket and threw a dirt ball to a wide open Quincy Enunwa. He would have caught the ball for an easy first down and had room to run. But Petty missed an easy throw to him. We had to punt and could only get the ball to mid field. The Rams took the lead after that. He also had Robbie Anderson for a long TD but missed him horribly. 

Just be honest and admit that Bryce Petty made a lot of mistakes today.

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1 minute ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

Last season may mean nothing to you but it counts when you're evaluating the job Bowles did. We went 10-6 with a team that was predicted to not be that good.

The CS is working with a 4th round QB. Petty checked down a lot today, even in the plays that weren't quick reads and designed plays. He chose not to throw down field plenty of times, he missed some opportunities.

On the punt that setup the go ahead FG by the Rams he rolled out of the pocket and threw a dirt ball to a wide open Quincy Enunwa. He would have caught the ball for an easy first down and had room to run. But Petty missed an easy throw to him. We had to punt and could only get the ball to mid field. The Rams took the lead after that. He also had Robbie Anderson for a long TD but missed him horribly. 

Just be honest and admit that Bryce Petty made a lot of mistakes today.

Yes he did what happened to all the grooming he was getting?  Where was all the coaching he was supposed to be getting?  We have a bunch of clowns for coaches. 

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8 minutes ago, drdetroit said:

With a cupcake schedule in his first season.

 

If you don't think Bowles is totally lost I don't know what else to say.

And if you don't ever want to give a coach any time then I don't know what to say either.

The difference is, i'm not sitting here saying that Bowles is a great coach. I'm saying we hired a rookie HC and we need to give him some time.

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And if you don't ever want to give a coach any time then I don't know what to say either.

The difference is, i'm not sitting here saying that Bowles is a great coach. I'm saying we hired a rookie HC and we need to give him some time.

We made a huge mistake. 

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1 minute ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

And if you don't ever want to give a coach any time then I don't know what to say either.

The difference is, i'm not sitting here saying that Bowles is a great coach. I'm saying we hired a rookie HC and we need to give him some time.

Well he's gotten worse in his second season so I'm not quite sure what we are "developing"

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14 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

STOP do you watch any other football besides the Jets rookie QB's play well all over the league but never here theres always an excuse. 

 

There's plenty of rookie QB's who dont play well. The list is to long to name though. Stop acting like all rookie QB's come in and dominate. Some do, some don't.

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5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

So far we havent seen squat out of any rookie QB here.

Maybe because we don't draft good players. We've had different regimes struggle with developing QB's. It's not like we've had the same group of guys failing over and over again. If we did I would agree with you.

And let's give Petty and Hack a chance first before we throw them in with Sanchez, Clemens, and Geno.

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4 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

Maybe because we don't draft good players. We've had different regimes struggle with developing QB's. It's not like we've had the same group of guys failing over and over again. If we did I would agree with you.

And let's give Petty and Hack a chance first before we throw them in with Sanchez, Clemens, and Geno.

Yes give Petty 2 more games then we need to see Hack to be able to evaluate the situation this off season. 

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